Warning: Do Not Install Mplayer 9!

Wile_E_CoyoteWile_E_Coyote Join Date: 2003-02-06 Member: 13198Members, Constellation
edited March 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Seriously, don't do it</div> Little **** at Microsoft fail to tell you that DESPITE unchecking file associations during setup it WILL associate itself with EVERYTHING that Microsofts feels is it's right to. MP3's MPG's EVERYTHING. You cannot uninstall it. You cannot re- associate the extensions. You cannot delete the executable, it wil re-create itself 5 seconds after you delete it. If you wipe wmplayer.exe out of the registry, instead of getting an error when you click on something it does nothing.

IF YOU INSTALL WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 9 THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE ANOTHER PROGRAM FOR MEDIA IS TO OPEN THAT PROGRAM FIRST. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ASSOCIATE ANOTHER PROGRAM WITH YOUR MEDIA FILES. PERIOD.

Just a warning guys...............
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  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    Also,if you install it, you will make baby jesus cry....
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Mar 5 2003, 08:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Mar 5 2003, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also,if you install it, you will make baby jesus cry.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who cares?

    But that's for the warning!
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    It's Microsoft, what did you expect....
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    I installed it and told it not to associate with anything other than .wma and .wmv files.

    And it hasn't messed with anything. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    edited March 2003
    It also uses a absurd amount of processing power... even without a visualisation running.

    MusicMatch Uses 0 - 1% and Windows Media now uses well over 25% of my 1ghz processor... Exactly what is it doing thats using so much processing power? My mp3's dont sound any different <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    Hmmm... I haven't had any problems I don't think. My mp3's are still associated with a different program, they work fine. I'll go check and edit if I can't change file associations though.

    Edit: Ummm, yeah, it seems that if you set Media Player to be associated with that filetype during install it can't be changed. Another customer rape, brought to you by Microsoft Inc. Good thing I didn't set mp3 as one of the filetypes. *shudders*
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    strangly enough, i <u><i>like</i> </u> WMplayer...
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    its funny, I think it took them half a million dollars to upgrade the thing, and theres nothing really different about it.
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    burning cds at *x+ doesnt result in the last 5% of the song getting cut off, also adding songs to playlists is much easier now
  • SprengiSprengi Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13860Members, Constellation
    uh...looks like the first step in realizing TCPA (http://www.againsttcpa.com/setlang.php?SetLang=EN)

    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    I stuck with Media Player 6 and Winamp 2.
  • LaserApaLaserApa Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1638Members
    hmm... never had any trouble with it?
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    it asked me what i want it to use , as i dont have any thing else , i said all , but u can un-tick everything even wma...i like it. i had the beta for WMP9 a while back was great this is even better
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    Can't you just use WinAmp (2.8 series or course) to
    get the file associations back?
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Works fine here. Associations zip back and forth between power mad player programs all the time on my machine. The only monopoly I granted WMP9 was the proprietary Windows Media Architecture-things.

    I use Winamp for mp3 and midi, RealPlayer for Realthings, Quicktime for Quicktime things and it's also my browser plugin for MIME-content. I use Cyberlink PowerDVD for MPGs, AVIs etc. Big old mess.

    I think the dollars spent on WMP9 was to ramp up on the Digital Rights Management scam. This build is more meant as a seller to the media conglomerates and the users are expected to shut up and bend over and take this "as is" including trojans that allows MS to silently upgrade what they see fit without asking you about it. Naturally I've put my WMP9 on a short leash so that it does not muck about outside my computer. Which it tries to regularly.

    So if you MUST avoid using WMP9 and cry wolf about it, at least do it due to the DRM debauchery.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    if you (like me( can't stand wimp

    go get your self <a href='http://www.twins-software.com/' target='_blank'>Twins Video Player)</a>
    free, and efficent (no it is not add/spy/shareware you don't get pesered to register. The only pop up are WOW youve watched 500 movies, you must really like them)

    and get your self <a href='http://classic.winamp.com/' target='_blank'>Winamp 2.x</a>
    much better then 3.x and hells of better then wimp
    and if you want visulizations MUCH better then wimp <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dearthdearth Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12569Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Immacolata+Mar 6 2003, 05:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Immacolata @ Mar 6 2003, 05:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the dollars spent on WMP9 was to ramp up on the Digital Rights Management scam. This build is more meant as a seller to the media conglomerates and the users are expected to shut up and bend over and take this "as is" including trojans that allows MS to silently upgrade what they see fit without asking you about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and that, sirs and ladies, is the rest of the story.

    *death to Trojans!*
  • Wile_E_CoyoteWile_E_Coyote Join Date: 2003-02-06 Member: 13198Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    Okay, finally got it sorted out.

    I had unchecked all "associate with" options during install, but the installer did it anyway. Of course I immediately noticed this and tried to undo it, which it would not allow.

    But after a lot of cursing (you have to curse or it won't get fixed) and playing with things.................

    Only way to do it:
    1. First make sure you reboot. I don't know why but this was part of the problem. Until I rebboted changing the asociations back to what I wanted was impossible.
    2. Open Media Player 9
    3. On the toolbar choose Tools, then Options
    4. In the options menu, choose the File Types tab
    5. Deselect anything you don't want MP9 running

    IF you try and do it the NORMAL way, using Windows Explorer/tools/options/filetypes, you will find that it doesn't work. apparently the setup in media player overrides this. However, It still remains that you canot delete or even raname the wmplayer.exe file because 5 seconds later it will notice it's missing and re-create itself

    None of the previous versions of media player have ever
    stolen all my associations during install. If I put an item in the recycle bin or rename it, I do not want the operating system to re-create the file 5 seconds later while I am trying to trouble
    shoot the problem. If they are so damn concerned with
    novices accidentally deleting it, should've made it a
    system file. That's what those are for.

    EDIT
    Ans BTW, I agree with Dearth. There was no upgrade. Microsoft said it handles digital better, but I'm sure ithad more to do with self-serving intrests. What else that you could add to a media player could possibly cost half a mil?
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    Since we're pimping media players, i'll pimp the one i use:

    Sasami2k, plays everything barring the licensed formats like .rm.

    It's very minimalist, the interface is kept as simple as possible, but the player works brilliantly. It has buckets of options for tweaking the video display or audio, but these options are not shoved in your face, they are just there when you need them. Supersampling and other effects mean it usually provides better image quality than WMP. No adware, no registration, small download. Would recommend it to anyone.

    And i use good old winamp for mp3s.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Wile E Coyote+Mar 6 2003, 09:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wile E Coyote @ Mar 6 2003, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, finally got it sorted out.

    I had unchecked all "associate with" options during install, but the installer did it anyway. Of course I immediately noticed this and tried to undo it, which it would not allow.

    But after a lot of cursing (you have to curse or it won't get fixed) and playing with things.................

    Only way to do it:
    1. First make sure you reboot. I don't know why but this was part of the problem. Until I rebboted changing the asociations back to what I wanted was impossible.
    2. Open Media Player 9
    3. On the toolbar choose Tools, then Options
    4. In the options menu, choose the File Types tab
    5. Deselect anything you don't want MP9 running

    IF you try and do it the NORMAL way, using Windows Explorer/tools/options/filetypes, you will find that it doesn't work. apparently the setup in media player overrides this. However, It still remains that you canot delete or even raname the wmplayer.exe file because 5 seconds later it will notice it's missing and re-create itself

    None of the previous versions of media player have ever
    stolen all my associations during install. If I put an item in the recycle bin or rename it, I do not want the operating system to re-create the file 5 seconds later while I am trying to trouble
    shoot the problem. If they are so damn concerned with
    novices accidentally deleting it, should've made it a
    system file. That's what those are for.

    EDIT
    Ans BTW, I agree with Dearth. There was no upgrade. Microsoft said it handles digital better, but I'm sure ithad more to do with self-serving intrests. What else that you could add to a media player could possibly cost half a mil? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Notice that nowhere in this entire statement is the phrase:

    'Whoops, my mistake.'

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    You guys are so quick to dogpile MicroSoft when you think something is wrong... Just open your door to Mr. Gates. When the wars of 2026 come, you'll want to be on his side. I promise. It's better with us...
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    Anyone know Why WM9 uses so much damn processing power?
  • dearthdearth Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12569Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Mar 6 2003, 10:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Mar 6 2003, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone know Why WM9 uses so much damn processing power? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    spyware, chum. spyware.
  • L3onL3on Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1589Members, Constellation
    I also installed it and it is fine. For those of you who it screwed up your file extentions do this:

    1. Goto any folder you have, i.e.: My Documents
    2. For windows XP users, and most others, click Tools > Folder Options
    - If you don't see it there check the View menu.
    3. In Folder Options Select the tab that says File Types
    4. Find the extentions that MediaPlayer 9 Overwrote, i.e.: MP3
    5. On the bottum of the page you will see the program this file is associated with.
    - To change it merly click the change button and select the program you want it to open with.
    6. Then hit Ok and Apply, and close the window.
    7. Repeat steps 4-6 as necissary.

    Done. Hope that helps. If you have further questions pm me.
  • CrystalSnakeCrystalSnake Join Date: 2002-01-27 Member: 110Members
    I recommend <a href='http://www.zinf.org/' target='_blank'>Zinf</a>.
    It's open-source, so you don't have to worry about spyware or trojans.
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    or, you could just try reading before you install it ...

    <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/style_images/2/icon2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    I had no issues with it trying to assosiate it self with anything I didn't want it to.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spyder Monkey+Mar 6 2003, 04:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ Mar 6 2003, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You guys are so quick to dogpile MicroSoft when you think something is wrong... Just open your door to Mr. Gates. When the wars of 2026 come, you'll want to be on his side. I promise. It's better with us... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Microsoft derserves dogpiling. I am sure they are only marginally more corrupt and powermongering than your local Amicable Industrial Conglomerate. They just get caught red handed. Such as allowing themselves the right to install software on your machine automatically when you are on the net WITHOUT your knowledge. They're even convicted monopolists. Anyone with such money piles deserve a good razzing lest they grow content and fat. They got coffers filled with money, so a bit of a dog piling can't hurt.

    Clickthrough agreements are probably the mostly abused invention by the software industry.

    Now, this has nothing to do with the actual QUALITY of WMP9. It's a fine program for most things, but I dont like it's stupid unintuitive media library. And that it sucks more ressources than other players. So I use alternatives while keeping WMP9 barred up behind a firewall - it's that simple.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Bill Gates has more money and power than god does so he can do what the hell he wants. Just put up with it! You dont like microsoft? Then dont use Microsoft products. Jus stop whining about it cos its kinda getting real old.
  • Wile_E_CoyoteWile_E_Coyote Join Date: 2003-02-06 Member: 13198Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Silver Fox+Mar 6 2003, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Mar 6 2003, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> or, you could just try reading before you install it ...

    <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/style_images/2/icon2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    I had no issues with it trying to assosiate it self with anything I didn't want it to. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or you try reading my post before you respond.

    I did read it. I did what it said. The installer didn't do what the installer was told to do.
  • Deltron_ZDeltron_Z Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6971Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Mar 6 2003, 05:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Mar 6 2003, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also,if you install it, you will make baby jesus cry.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't want to make baby Jesus cry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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