Port Engine Room

abbazab · March 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">More of an ethics thing...</div>
Would you (keeping ambiguous) suggest it is proper or improper to build behind the broken door in Port? I think it is a good strategy, and not as cheap as building outside of marine start in hera, as thereis a hole for lerks and fades to shoot through.

But I dont want to find myself getting kicked out of a server for it, cause i mean, why else would that little room be there if the maker didn't intend its use?

Nemesis_Zero · March 2003

One word: Ambience.

nothing · March 2003

Yeah what Nemesis Zero said.
It's an area of the map you can't get to without using map bugs. "Out Of Bounds" is the word, and I know that amongst many people I play with it is considered an exploit and is very strongly frowned upon.

ZiGGY · March 2003

But my fave is the pg just below the pipes between south loop and maintainance on eclipse. It can be taken out by anyone but you have to be standing above it if you dont have a projectile weapon. :/ thoughts?

Church · March 2003

Would your marines get stuck?

ZiGGY · March 2003

no they dont and now in 1.04 they can use it to go back too

Link1 · March 2003

What about sieging feedwater from inside the ovens just outside the feedwater entrance ?

Amped1 · March 2003

If aliens can't get directly to it, it is cheating. Yes steam generation furnace is a cheat spot.

MMZ_Torak · March 2003

If you have to "build through a wall" or "aliens can shoot it if they stand on one foot, hop, and close one eye" or if abusing the /stuck plugin "allows anyone to get there" or any other kind of extrapolated justification, just to get to where you are building it is cheating. Simply because bilebombs can go through the glass doesn't mean you can build outside nancy. When fades shoot through the welded grates in Waste handling all the marines scream CHEAT, but they expect the fades to use this "cheat" to destroy the IP they built outside of the map. A cheat is a cheat is a cheat.

big_fat_c0w · March 2003

i don't think it's should be called cheating.. .i don't belive in exploits.. marines should use any map advantage... the acid rocket shooting is what i belive the developres intended.. the port engine room is a perfect example of a map developer intentions when he developed the map.. or else thier wasn't the hole... there is nothing that should be called cheating when using an "exploit" aliens should take care that marines won't get to this "comfy places and then there shouldn't be any problem.. if the developers think they are exploits theyh should take care f it in the 1.1v

civman2 · March 2003

The hole is there so you SEE the hallway. It's to make you think, damn, it would be cool if i could go there and see the rest of the ship. if there wasn't that hole, there would be no point to the hallway.

Cheating is bad, mmkay?

taboofires · March 2003

Not only is building outside the map a problem, building anywhere that gameplay does not occur is the same problem. Don't try to justify it because you can see it. You can see out the cockpit in nancy too, but that's out of the map.

That_Annoying_Kid · March 2003

if you can't get to it without being sneaky, then it is frowned upon, and if I can see the command chair, but it's behind a plate of glass on the outside of tanith, then thats blatant cheating becuaes it's there, and can be gotten into, but not attacked, which gives the marines an unfair advantage.

V_MAN · March 2003

The new siege range in 1.04 means that sieges behind that door will no longer reach the hive in port <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .

Akalamanaia · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Mar 18 2003, 06:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The new siege range in 1.04 means that sieges behind that door will no longer reach the hive in port <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
quess what!?aliens can /stuck thru the glass in port engine,free dc for everybody!

Sifo25 · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (big fat c0w @ Mar 16 2003, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i don't think it's should be called cheating.. .i don't belive in exploits..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Plz dont have children kthx.

Sifo

big_fat_c0w · March 2003

lol.. that's my opinion.. i am not going to use this exploits on a server that does not allowes it or if the admin is on the other team:=).. anyway i won't complain of using most exploits...the exploit that realy do bother me because is the tunnel on nancy between near marine base to the RT there.. alien can't kill marines there .. don't know why..just can't/..

Commander_Kittens · March 2003

What are youre opinions on building a turret on top of a turret factory or getting an OC on top of an RT? I do the first a lot and miserably fail at the latter.

Roobubba · March 2003

Different thing altogether Kittens.

If I find people using stuck or exploiting the things we've talked about above in this fashion, I slay that team (yes, even if I am on the team) and make sure everyone is dead

I WILL make them lose. The rule is simple, player exploit = ban, team exploit = lose.

Hence "No time for muppets" in the server title <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Niteowl · March 2003

heh, i like your hard **** banning theory. nice! i use the same myself. altho we don't get alot of llamas in that regard. we CAN get ppl who swear at ppl, maliciously, for no good reason, put down others, and are generally ****, they get kicked pretty quick (banned in some cases).

Commander_Kittens · March 2003

So it's its not considered hacking or exploiting or whatever to drop a turret on a TF?

d0omie · March 2003

Its more fun to drop a siege on a hive

MaTT · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Commander Kittens @ Mar 21 2003, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So it's its not considered hacking or exploiting or whatever to drop a turret on a TF?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
no... If you wanna take it a step further build the TF on top of a res tower and then a turret on top of the TF... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Niteowl · March 2003

i personally wouldn't consider rine stacking to be an exploit, just silly. as it will be removed in 1.1 (well, uhm.. so will jp/hmg rush). no point relying on something in your strat that won't be there in the future...

TeoH · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
hehe, the OldF is for Old Fogies :)
18 and above West Coast, mature, teamplayers.
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18 and above and you're called "Old Fogies"? Damn...

Where i come from the only community members we considered old were clan [30+]

(Exactly what it sounds like)

Dunkin_Dynamite · March 2003

don't be so harsh about building outside the cockpit of nancy.

If marines do that, they are automatic lose. So it's all in fun; let the newbs have a laugh before 1.1 comes out.

Rion · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Mar 14 2003, 06:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> But my fave is the pg just below the pipes between south loop and maintainance on eclipse. It can be taken out by anyone but you have to be standing above it if you dont have a projectile weapon. :/ thoughts?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Can't you just throw a few mines ontop of it?

Rion · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|MaTT| @ Mar 21 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Commander Kittens @ Mar 21 2003, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So it's its not considered hacking or exploiting or whatever to drop a turret on a TF? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
no... If you wanna take it a step further build the TF on top of a res tower and then a turret on top of the TF... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Would the turret even be able to fire at an angel to hit a skulk then?

DBZ_SuperGoku · March 2003

Put a tf there, upgrade it, then build one siege inside. 20 + 25 + 20 = 65 res then u move on to the next hive.

Gorge comes in to build a Hive, commander scan.... Surprise!!!!!

Roobubba · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=|Dunkin Dynamite=-> @ Mar 26 2003, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> don't be so harsh about building outside the cockpit of nancy.

If marines do that, they are automatic lose. So it's all in fun; let the newbs have a laugh before 1.1 comes out.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
erm, no. It's a waste of my time, it's not big, not clever and not conducive to good teamplay.
By all means come to my server for a good game. Ruin it and you're gone, and I consider that being ruined.

I think you meant n00bs too. I do NOT welcome n00bs to my server, but newbies (new players) ARE welcome, as long as they are willing to employ teamwork.

Niteowl · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TeoH @ Mar 26 2003, 06:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
hehe, the OldF is for Old Fogies <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
18 and above West Coast, mature, teamplayers.
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

18 and above and you're called "Old Fogies"? Damn...

Where i come from the only community members we considered old were clan [30+]

(Exactly what it sounds like)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
and where abouts do you come from?

Port Engine Room

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