Natural Selection: Single Player

TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Somone do it :D</div> There must be a single player expansion eventually <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Im just surprised no one has started work on one. It could be a "plugin" to NS, it would just need to pull resources and files from the NS folder. And the NS DLL would have to be upgraded to include the new weapons and such. Which could cause problems (having to have everyone, expansion or not, upgrade their DLL when a bug is found).

Anyhow, back to the topic. You could play a Marine, have multiple experimental weapons to use (which arent in multiplayer, because only the LMG, HMG, and Pistol are highly tested and reliable <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ) such as the Flamethrower <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Eventually there would be an add on pack, which let you play a different campaign as an Alien. That would be completely cool, since 99% of the games out there have you KILLING the Aliens, not playing them. Or maybe you would play an Alien/Human hybrid of some sort, so you could use human weapons. Imagine going up against HA/HMG Marines, or even a squad of them. They would be toned down of course <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

So many possibilities. Maybe Valve will release the engine souce code to Flay someday so we can have spiffy stuff like bump mapping and 32bit textures <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    you were soooooo dreaming of a white christmas on that one.

    As for single player. Sure it could happen as you say, but it wouldnt be ns. There is a game known as alien vs preditor. Look into it and you will find something similar to what you would end up wtih if what you wanted happened. Preditor, high tech weaponry. Aliens, run on walls and like bite stuff.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Its possible <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> And AvP sucked, NS:SP would be much cooler <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EgoEgo Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12804Members
    You are insane

    Ego

    [FACT] - 100% certified insanity
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    *chuckles* We're talking about the HL engine here. Just look at HL single player. I am PLANNING an independent single player game that will be independent from NS and HL. Just don't expect it too soon.
  • 3ncrypted_zer03ncrypted_zer0 Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11458Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TenSix+Mar 15 2003, 07:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TenSix @ Mar 15 2003, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its possible <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> And AvP sucked, NS:SP would be much cooler <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    AVP2 rocked!

    and yes an NS single player story mode would make me wanna buy the game instead of downloading it. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    They could get away with a simple training course.

    If there was a single player campain it has to be done right, which means we don't make the huge mistake of Wizard Wars and have it done in house.

    We need an relatively simple Neil Manke kind of deal, with good mapping, but simple game play.

    Infact, I am thinking, can't you just import NS weapons to HL? I obviusly lack the technical know how, but...
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    It's not so easy with the HL engine, trigger_hell
  • TheHornetTheHornet Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1776Members, Constellation
    just to dream, this would be a really cool idea. but i'm not sure how pratical.
  • noelephantnoelephant Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13518Members
    To be perfectly honest, half-life single player and the OppFor expansion arn't terribly different from what you wish.

    Thing about it: In Opposing Force, you play as a marine, primarly fighting aliens.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Except for the fact that OpFor weapons are completely different from NS weapons, and the gameplay isn't the same... yeah, they're alike.

    NS single player would be nice but it's not happening any time soon.
  • Butt_monkey_saladButt_monkey_salad Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11006Banned
    edited March 2003
    Nah, NS SP would likely end up alot like CNC Renegades, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, or BF1942 single player mode. It just would not be the same.

    And whoever said AVP sucked and that NS SP would be better really needs a life <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DoADrunkMonkeyDoADrunkMonkey Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11902Members
    if their were some way of doing all that clever coding of AI for them alien dudes and even a good marine commander then it would defintally rock!

    just image the diffrent aspects you could live all through single player NS.
    quip up on the oribiting space station, phase in, group up and send off to way point X with ur team when DUN DUN DUN!
    an amazing set piece takes part when all the windows go samsh smash and lots of explosions then goes all dark and chuckles and gibs flying everywhere and vents cracking open and some alien blasting going on from your team as stuff goes flying and ur trying to back out behind you and close the airlock and sha boomm!!
    mmmmmh, well that was just circling around my head for a few minutes.


    but i must concour.
    dream on... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dunkin_DynamiteDunkin_Dynamite Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13260Members
    In a previous post somewhere I had said I would not like to see NS degenerate into something SCish with its random mods.

    However, I lied.

    LIES

    It would be great if NS could be heavily modded - although once again it would be best to be without the glut of junk squeezing out normal NS, or whatever is great. But I really want to see

    NS Safari - hunt Onos and company out on the savannah
    NS Bullfight - dodge Onos, jump over skulks as they try to munch you, meanwhile slowly knif0ring them to death!

    ... or a cooperatively multiplayer NS Bast, where you have a live crew on an uninfested Bast like ship explore the living universe. This could be just your buddies in a computer universe or massively multiplayer, with live human crews on the other ships in the galaxy and maybe even all live humans on every single station outpost moon planet system you visit (and of course for the aliens). You could incorporate the whole world (Earth I mean) into this, and have a *real* imaginary economy (unlike the fake "fake" economy that anti tech people imagine) and whole society engaged in the game.

    Of course there are obvious problems if the whole world gets addicted.

    But just imagine, you and your crew, flying a ship like Bast through an entire galaxy.. you could be space pirates, bounty hunters, could chase other pirates, rob freighters, fight warships, board stations, make landfall on planets, cleanse infestations.. it would be like a movie or TV series

    THAT dear readers is the future of entertainment: game and movie/TV convergence. People will BE the actors, LIVE the roles, FIGHT the aliens, GET the girl, whatever. But before all that happens,

    I want this game.

    Where you pilot a fully functional ship with all your buddies on board, flying through the galaxy, doing as you please. Would r0x0r

    Aside from the game though, going back to the issue of getting lots of people hooked on the game, let's look at it a different way. Imagine an online community, a cohesive one, like a club or a clan, so vast in scale that it includes hundreds of thousands of people. Imagine that they have some sort of united agenda. Now what if they turned into a political entity? Not just a political group that has online communication but some sort of virtual country - they all declare independence or what not - would be rather messed up.

    Or imagine a world with an "imaginary" economy, where most of the population is tied up into virtual transactions, maybe robbing people in this giant "game" or "research" and paying taxes.. the taxes would be real <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> But imagine that you pay imaginary taxes to an imaginary government, but at the same time your whole life is spent in this game, there IS no real life except food sex sleep and bathroom. Then that fake government might as well be the real government, your fake taxes the real taxes, your fake income your real income, and you would really be robbing people's money if you decided to do so in the game .. Obviously because the game architecture/structure needs creation and people need to eat and stay kind of fit for enough sex, that the entirely virtual society will probably not hapen.. but some kind of heavy mix will, I bet, in the future, and our children might think about it but not turn from it.
  • XaeroDarknessXaeroDarkness Join Date: 2003-01-24 Member: 12693Members
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> oh, dear, god. that game would just own, and then i would have no life, or contact with the outside world....imagine...imagine... the developers would out class bill gates and make him look like a begger <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> if i live long enough to see the game be made... ill be in heaven... sorry if i sound a little... you know, overly disturbed, its from lack of sleep lol
  • mRWafflesmRWaffles Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4713Members
    While we are at it I want NS the MMOFPS WITH SPACE SHIPS like Freelancer and guns like Planetside and buildings like in Shadowbane and... .... NINJAS... lots and lots of ninjas. Who wants to join my dev team I think we are on to something here!
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    Flayra said there would NEVER EVER be single player. Sorry if you are in the middle of no where with your 14.4 k, but I prefer to play with real geeks, just like me, not some piece of code *shudders and walks off*
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