Fps Help
jonesdaniel11
Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13387Members
Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13387Members
<div class="IPBDescription">done something to mess them up :.(</div> Right...i was playing natural selection most the weekend recieving 35-60 fps throughout all maps. Ive done something since then to mess it up so i cant recieve over 30fps. I've tried reinstalling all of halflife and its patch, and ns and the v card but none of it worked so i think ive done something in either :-
dxdiag
the "my computer" properties
or the desktop properties
this is really annoying...since i cant even play counter strike without dipping down below 15fps sometimes <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
will be super grateful if anybody can help me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
dxdiag
the "my computer" properties
or the desktop properties
this is really annoying...since i cant even play counter strike without dipping down below 15fps sometimes <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
will be super grateful if anybody can help me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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BTW, in the future you should keep in mind this should go in the Tech Support forum, I believe.
What it sounds like is a driver issue. I'm assuming you've already tried that. What is your video card?
For mine, my FPS dips to a sub 20 rate if I have my TV tuner running in the background, for example. Could it be that you installed something that runs in the background that uses your video card? You may also have inadvertantly underclocked your video card.
Lastly, does it only happen in HL? Or have your frames dropped in every 3D game/program that uses the graphics accelerator? If so, it can be anything... including underclocking your FSB, lowering your CPU multiplier (unlikely), or some plain hardware conflict forcing a certain component to run in safe mode.
Nobody can tell you what's wrong unless you give us more information. There's just too many possibilities that results in lower framerates.
I don't think that's it. If he did enable Vsync, he shouldn't be getting 15 FPS. He should be constantly getting 30 FPS in all situations in HL. Obviously it has slowed down enough for him to affect his playing abilities, which must mean a dip to much lower levels than 30 FPS. It is worth looking into I guess, but it doesn't explain everything.
128mb ram (updating to 512mb soon)
666mhz pentium 3
nvidia geforce 4 mx 420
im pretty damn sure it started when i installed quake 3 :/ and tried to do something to make that run better (since it used to run fine on my old v card, a tnt2 pro) and im pretty sure ive changed something for the worse
I believe this only effects HL since i tried running c&c renegade and that seemed to run fine
Your hardware can definitely run HL faster than 30 FPS. What version of the detonators do you have?
Are you using OpenGL or Direct3D?
Is A3D or EAX turned on?
And you mention that you were tweaking your video card for Quake3?
Nope...still as poo as before...god knows what i could have done to make it go as bad as this <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Try going into your video card options and seeing if you turned on anti-aliasing or anisoropic filtering. Nvidia cards get a really big slowdown from using anisotropic filtering or AA.
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From the things I hear you can get 100fps even when you have V-Sync enabled.
in console:
fps_max 99
fps_modem 99
?
fps_max 100
fps_modem 100
rate 99999
r_decals 0
99.9fps maxed out all the time...about 60 in commander mode in 1152 res...gg
> From the things I hear you can get 100fps even when you have V-Sync enabled.
If you can get 100 FPS with Vsync on anything but a monitor that can support 100 Hz, then Vsync is not enabled. Or if it is, you've broken it. The whole point of Vsync is to syncronize between the video card's output buffer and monitor refresh. There's no point in getting an external program to get it higher, because you effectively break Vsync. Might as well not turn it on in the first place.
And as stated above, Vsync would not be the culprit if you have 30 FPS.
I'm not sure why you'd have slowdowns in HL if you don't in any other 3d shooter. I'd do a timedemo to make sure you really are getting 30 FPS, and try to figure out at what parts you slow down. And yes, as stated above, make sure anti-aliasing is off. Anisotropic rendering shouldn't cause you to slow down much in HalfLife though. If it was AA's fault, you'd see massive slowdowns in other games too, but since that's not the case, I'm out of ideas. Best advice I can give you is to remember what you did to your system before it slowed down and then undo it.
Or you could've enabled some obscure r_ or gl_ command that gives you higher image quality at the expense of massive slowdown. There's still not enough info to help you out.
fps_max 100
fps_modem 100
rate 99999
r_decals 0
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r_decals isn't on the other hand
i was told to change this setting
click on advanced
go onto peformance settings
click the advanced tab
look at the bottom and click on change
i was told to change both the setting from
initial size (mb) from 194
maximum size (mb) 320
to
initial size (mb) 600
maximum size (mb) 600
does that sound like it could have messed anything up?
*Full Screen Anti-aliasing. Unless you got a VERY good graphics card, ensure this baby is OFF
*Resolution Setting in-game. Is it too high? Try setting it lower and see how that goes
*Texture Size. You might want to set this to 16bit or something, or set the colour quality lower. The more colours that potentially has to be rendered, the more memory bandwidth is required and/or processing. That is if you can stand the probably obvious reduction in quality
*As for the performance settings, leave it on Balanced. There is no real need to muck around with this switch
*Another thing: Why on earth did you change your virtual memory setting is you ahd no idea about them? Changing that setting will have little to no impact on FPS unless your RAM is REALLY low, which it shouldn't be. Another thing: I tend to leave the min and max values on virtual memory the same so Windows doesn't or cannot screw around with it for itself while I'm using it (512-512 is what I'm using. 512 or RAM, 512 or VirtMem with a constant min/max)
If you had reinstalled everything, it can't be configuration wise problems, unless it was driver settings. Formatting is too drastic so taht is out of the option.
The only other thing you could try is updating your motherboard's drivers and see if you can get better AGP performance, BUT that I don't recommend unless you absolutely know what you are doing and get someone to PHYSICALLY AND VISUALLY double check everything before you upgrade motherboard firmware/drivers! preferably someone who is knowledgable in compters! If you screw up a firmware update, your mobo is toast
oh yeah, this may seem obvious but you ARE using hardware acceleration and not software for the rendering right? Might want to double check that one
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mate, sorry for sounding like a right berp but im really quite new to all these settings and stuff. The only reason i changed the setting was beacuse i was advised to by activision. I get a bloke that builds his own pc's to get me the upgrades, so that they are all compat etc... but anyway, i bet i sound like a right flid, but how do i check that im using harware accel and not software..
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its a CS guide, but its all the same for NS.
BTW, for those trying to crack 60 FPS and cant do it, you must turn Vertical Sync off. To do this, go to your display properties/settings/advanced button. at that point it all depends on your card. Its usually found under your additional properties. Once you turn Vertical Sync off, just set fps_max 100 and you should get max res. Then monitor your FPS by using net_graph 3. net_graph 3 will also show your packet loss, choke, rates, etc.
Ok im tired. Take a look at this guide and enjoy great NS gaming...
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where can i find my monitors max refresh rate?? mines set at 60 hertz.
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Assuming your monitor can run at higher than 60hz in your HL resolution (It probably can) then you are being screwed by windows (probably XP). XP likes to set your refresh rate to 60hz when running halflife regardless of what your monitor can actually support. HL also lacks any console commands to set monitor refresh, so you end up with a 60Hz refresh rate.
To get around this you can use a few tricks to get windows to set your refresh correctly, in my case i'm using a program called refreshlock. Refreshlock allows you to choose the refresh rate you want each resolution/colour depth to run in, and will force you into that refresh rate regardless of what windows incorrectly attempts to set it to. The link to the program has already been posted once in this thread, i'll stick it in here for people too lazy to look back up:
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From the things I hear you can get 100fps even when you have V-Sync enabled.
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You can get 100fps if your monitor actually stretches to 100hz :)
Vsync caps your framerate to your monitors refreshrate, in order to get 100fps with vysnc on you need a monitor that can operate at 100hz, a version of windows that can set your refresh rate correctly OR a copy of refreshlock that will force windows to set it correctly, and finally a system that can run HL at 100fps.
I know because i had them at one stage and when somebody told me to remove them, i did and i get a lot better framerate than i ever did before.