Stolen Ns Textures?

Killer_Chalupa1 · March 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">...Check these out</div> I was browsing around for a good Max Payne mod the other day and I stumbled upon a Matrix based one called 'The Real World'. Maybe you've heard of it, maybe not. Anywho, I looked at a screenie and one of the textures look a HELUVA lot like some the NS.wad textures, namely the teckwall textures (I checked). Here is their URL:

<a href='http://realworld.maxpayneheadquarters.com/main.htm' target='_blank'>http://realworld.maxpayneheadquarters.com/main.htm</a>

Here is a link to the pic:

<a href='http://realworld.maxpayneheadquarters.com/pix/neb4.jpg' target='_blank'>http://realworld.maxpayneheadquarters.com/pix/neb4.jpg</a>

What do you guys think?

cr3am · March 2003

you're right, they do look alike. but all the other pics i saw, none of them looked like any other NS textures. i think it's a coincidence

Killer_Chalupa1 · March 2003

None of the other levels use those textures, but after comparing tat one pic with the .wad file I am almost completely certain that those are NS textures on the wall. They look identical.

Killer_Chalupa1 · March 2003

Here you go, this is straight from the ns.wad

Ahnteis · March 2003

Would you people stop posting things like this on the pub forum? PM the moderators if you're actually concerned.

Last time someone made one of these posts, it turned out that the textures were commercial textures that the NS team had bought. It's quite possible for someone else to buy the same textures.

cr3am · March 2003

ok, they are the same textures, but ahnteis might be right

Anavrin · March 2003

Oh give me a break. Do you know where many of the NS textures came from? A free texture pack from some website I could care less to look up. I don't expect people to know this off hand, but stop accusing people of stealing. Instead of saying "stolen NS textures?" try something that's not so belittling. Use the forum search if you actually do care about where the texture pack comes from because this topic has come up before. If you don't care to do that, at least stop stifling other people's attempts at modding with accusations.

"NS stole the model and skin of the AK47 from CS in the rr.org screenshots!"

<b>Note from Flayra</b>: I don't know where you're getting your information from but you're incorrect. All of the NS textures were drawn by hand (with the exception of a few in bast which were from Shaderlab, used with permission). Please don't spread rumors about something you don't know anything about.

Nemesis_Zero · March 2003

As much as I usually agree, the specific texture in question was as far as I know drawn by Cory himself. I'll contact him.

Comprox · March 2003

Yes, I am with Nem on this, 99.9% sure this is a NS original. Not all textures in our wad were just bought, Corey made alot of them also <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
/me lets Nem handle it

Vyvn · March 2003

The site from which many of the NS textures were taken is called <a href='http://www.shaderlab.com/slrl/' target='_blank'>Shaderlab</a>. If you think someone is "stealing" NS textures, first make sure it doesn't come from there.

But in this case, it sounds like the texture in question may well be an NS original, in which case it would be the stealing of intellectual property and, quite possibly, legally copyrighted material. We'll see.

Supernorn · March 2003

hehe...they made mistake there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

*hands nem a baseball bat and lets him "sort it out"

Eplekongen · March 2003

I am 100 % sure. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> Things like this really gets me going.

(Sorry for the mspaint)

MonsieurEvil · March 2003

There seem to be a number of people here not 'in the know' about texture usage. Textures that NS used from Shaderlab were not specifically for NS, but were infact for the original work on NS_Bast. In any case, they were used with explicit written permission by the guys at shaderlab, as it is not legal (or ethical) to use another group's texture art. So we do not, nor do we present Sahderlab or modified-Shaderlab textures as our own in our documentation.

Just so you all understand fully. As for this piece of usage, it's been forwarded on to Flayra and Cory.

Supernorn · March 2003

so what is likely to happen then? im quite curious...will they be asked to remove the texture from use or will it go further. Forgive me for being curious....

supergrendel2000 · March 2003

I just may have to eat you if you continue to be "curious".

Killer_Chalupa1 · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supergrendel2000 @ Mar 24 2003, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I just may have to eat you if you continue to be "curious".  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
WTH is that supposed to mean?

@supernorn: I would be scared of this guy if I were you.

Flayra · March 2003

Thanks for the note, I've e-mailed the author.

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