Marines Extending Gameplay...way Beyond Normal

Cowswin · April 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Finish the game guys...</div> So last night I played a game of NS. That went on for about an hour for me, even though by the time I entered, the "timeleft" was 3 minutes. Take a look at this screenshot. Before you say anything however, note that when I entered the game, the marines had both hives secure and tech level 3. At about the -7 minute mark, they had two turret factories surrounding our little hive with mines laced all around so we couldn't leave without exploding. There were HA/JP/HMG/GL...and they refused to end the game. For an HOUR. The only reason I didn't leave was to take this screenshot. Look at the time. They refused to siege the hive by the way, specifically the "Whiskey" character on their team called people who sieged ****...and therefore decided to draw the game out for this period of time.

I failed to post that the alien team is completely new aside from me and the guy above me. The aliens DID F4 and/or quit but new people kept joining. I personally was staying just to take the screenshot to show how retarded some marines can be waiting around just to increase their non-existant kill count.

<img src='http://www.firaga.net/img/Image001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

and people wonder why aliens F4 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

CutterJoe · April 2003

HA HA HA. I wouldve F4'ed that game long ago. Why would the aliens that were alive even stay?? They had no chance and the marines were being jerks. Anyway I hate it when marines just draw the game out to get the absolute last tech then just go seige the hive I mean please just end it already.

ElvenThief · April 2003

Regardless of the marines not finishing the game, your team continued playing for some reason or another. Althought I hate people who f4, I'd say this is one time when I would do it. And if your team didn't want to end it with you, well, they wanted to keep playing, and nobody's holding a gun to your head, keeping you in the game. I would have left.

Cowswin · April 2003

The team on the alien side is all completely new aside from me and the other guy. Everyone else HAD left, new people joined, and the marines just kept freaking around outside the hive...refusing to siege or do anything but kill more aliens.

Ayatollah · April 2003

I've seen a lot of servers turn off autoconcede (making it so a 4 player difference won't end the game).

The command was probably there for a reason. And if you can't get 4 people to leave with you, that blows. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

-Aya

MMZ_Torak · April 2003

Yup, I've seen this often. Perfect time to F4. No other choice. I tink ths is a carry over from RTS games where people try and hold the whole map so a computer opponent can't sneak out and build a supply depot or some other meaningless building to draw out the game. Computers don't get upset at this but people do... F4 to save yourself the aggrivation.

The_Real_Quasar · April 2003

They want kills? You realise that if they don't get them they will just get frustrated. Pile DCs and OCs somewhere in the hive and just sit there, along with everyone else. The marines will soon get bored.

ThE_HeRo · April 2003

I hate f4ing. I never, EVER do it, save for a few circumstances. This is one of them. I can't believe anyone would stay in a game playing that long at the marines whims. The commander for the marines needs a good admin_slap. Followed by a thousand admin_slays.

Young_Trotsky · April 2003

I agree, any team that doesn't end a match when they can simply to have more time harrasing the other team is lame. I have to admit that i have occasionally made a game last a little too long when I'm alien and get three hives, but i do it entertaining ways such as getting the whole team to go gorge and win with babblers <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Cowswin · April 2003

Yah, I've done a gorge rush once before, shoulda got a screenshot of that heh. But we didn't draw the game out, we built fast and furiously right into their base up in their face. We spammed web and babblers while building structures right inside their base, not waiting outside for them to come out and healspray them to death (which was basically what they were doing here). The gorge rush was over in like 2 minutes, babblers rule <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Note...2 minutes, not two hours. Freakin' rinees <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

Kenichi · April 2003

F4ing is pathetic. Thats all.

Morden · April 2003

What makes me mad is that sometimes aliens don't realise how hard it is to take out their hive. They whine and complain and scream: "Kill our hive, kill our hive!!!!" And all the while they're building walls of lame in every doorway across the map, and destroying every marine RT. When you've locked down 2 hives, but you've only got jps and lvl 2 guns, with lvl 1 armor, it can be hard as hell to take out that last hive, especially when the aliens have a huge rez surplus.

I've been in games where we were trying our hardest to kill the hive and the alien players were complaining that we were dragging it out. Well... we'd like to end it, but your kinda raping us! If you really want it to end... just sit there and die.

MMZ_Torak · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kenichi @ Apr 10 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> F4ing is pathetic. Thats all.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
No more pathetic than the aforementioned situation.

plazid · April 2003

its just strange, i dint get it...

it reminds me of when i played Red Alert2 vs the computer...

i usually just "lock" the enemy in a tight space controling everything... shooting harvesters if they get to many and destroys nuclear silos and such... whilei build a HUGE army of men for example, and then i just overrun the computers bases at the end.. quite entertaining <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

<a href='http://www.rasseren.dk/techplayintro.avi' target='_blank'>http://www.rasseren.dk/techplayintro.avi</a>

Chadseh · April 2003

On the server I play on, we usually give the marines a 3 minute time limit, after they lock down two hives. Generally poeple never try to call the - evil - admins bluff <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Speed_2_Dave · April 2003

If you're playing Starcraft (1v1), and you're still trapped in your base, have 2 units, and no resources, but the enemy won't go in for the kill because he wants his 48 hydralisks, 10 Ultralisk rush to win the game... I'd just concede, no point in wasting my time.

Not F4'ing is for CS-playing twits. No offense, but it's stupid to not realize how lame a game can be if you're on the losing side of a battle that doesn't stand a chance... "Mined and turreted the exits" The skulks/lerks/gorges can't escape; they had reduced the game to a simple ego(frag)-booster. If you want that kind of #$%, go back to CS and play your damn Icyworld, seriously. If you want to play a game, play NS, or DoD (outside of Omaha, that's just ugly if there are more than 10 people in the server), if you want to play a DM, go play Quake, or UT2k3.

As for F4'ing, just suggest F4'ing to concede to the team, then do so. I usually hang out in a server after F4'ing because it usually only takes 1 minute or two before the game is either over, or the marines finally bore enough aliens into F4'ing as well. You could also just reconnect and observe the rest of the match, I don't remember if you can observe without reconnecting; sometimes the marines haven't gone in for the kill because the skulks actually do succeed in breaking out and stalling the US, I mean Marine War Machine.

[note] before you call me a f4 lamer, I say "this game is over" up to about 20 minutes before the game actually ends, I just don't F4 or give up. I fight as hard as I can, try to work together as a team, etc. If no one else is willing to try and make a comeback, there's just no point in dying a lot.[/note]

Ollj · April 2003

Ive seen so many Marines that have Secured 2 hives wich did NOT prevent them to suicide rush without teamwork wasting tons of res at each rush.

Paranoia2MB · April 2003

I don't blame marines for not finishing off the hive by teching up first.
Better than safe then sorry. Consider it training for Ns 1.1 when u can get fade/onos even with one hive (if you get the 2nd/3rd hive up for a bit, which i think is the stupidest idea ever <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> hehe)

MeLeNkO · April 2003

i would of pressed F4 aswell lol

CForrester · April 2003

I wouldn't. You realize that Flayra's original intention was hour-long games? Not these crappy 5-minute rounds. Anything short of half an hour is too short of a game for me.

Huntsman · April 2003

Once you're sealed into your spawn that badly and they have both hives locked down, it's a win for the marines. There is no longer any reason to play. Skulks are just target pratice for the few seconds they have to live once they spawn, if they even have that long. The entire marine team vs. one unupgraded skulk, with turrets and maybe even mines? Would you ever play a game that it was impossible to win? I hate it when people refuse to just kill the hive/infantry portal. It's just a power trip. Wow! I'm so great cuz I can kill these other guys and they can't do a single thing about it! Sigh....

CplDavis · April 2003

Ive seen many a game when the aliens could easily end the game but they choose to prolong it. Also I dont like the aliens that immediatly F4 the min something goes wrong, its as if they just give up and use it as an exuse to not even try. This goes for marines too.

Align · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Apr 11 2003, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I wouldn't. You realize that Flayra's original intention was hour-long games? Not these crappy 5-minute rounds. Anything short of half an hour is too short of a game for me.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Did you read the original post?
I have a hard time believing you would throw yourself to instant gibbage to turrets and mines over and over and over and over for an hour or more.

RPGreg2600 · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chadseh @ Apr 10 2003, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>On the server I play on, we usually give the marines a 3 minute time limit, after they lock down two hives. Generally poeple never try to call the - evil - admins bluff <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Remind me to never play on that server. I've taken 2 hives really quick when I'm comming before, but I certainly won't be able to take out the enemy hive within 3 minutes. That's just stupid.

and by the way This is a really funny quote: "we'd like to end it, but your kinda raping us!"

Marines Extending Gameplay...way Beyond Normal

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