i just had this game where ppl were plugging themselve into siege cannons and attacking the aliens, entire groups were wiped out and i dont think that supposed to happen
Voogru coded a plugin that allows you to control siege guns, but controlled shots are 1/2 the power and 1/2 the fire rate, as well as causing a marker that shows where you're aiming the gun. Most consider them overpowered, and should be removed sometime, one of the servers might have it installed still though.
<!--QuoteBegin--MagiTek+Apr 20 2003, 01:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MagiTek @ Apr 20 2003, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>*checks off another reason to stay the hell away from voogru servers*</i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> amen to that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (secretly runs off to voogru server to try to control seige cannon)
<!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 20 2003, 06:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 20 2003, 06:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its a plugin. to have fun. join marines and play. stop complaining at every strange thing you see. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> O_O
That's right - if something is overpowered, be sure to join the team that has the advantage so you can really slaughter the idiots stupid enough to be on the OTHER team.
That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
Yes, that is a voogru plugin, it's called "manual seige" it's a closed source metamod plugin, if you don't like the servers it's being played on, find another.
Umm, I'm an active member of the Voogru community, and play there 85% of the time. Myself and a good number of other people all play in a ladder league exclusive to the Voogru community, which had started before he designed the manual sieges, the sieges were removed on at least one server so the server would still be in the original state it was when we started the ladders.
Sorry if my first post sounded negative, I didn't intend for it to be, and I feel quite the opposite, voogru servers rock for the most part, and those who don't like them, their loss, one slot that won't be occupied when Im trying to connect <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
Then read coil's post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> SEE! the NS community is a nice place that listens to the moderators!
<!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its a plugin. to have fun. join marines and play. stop complaining at every strange thing you see. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that?
<!--QuoteBegin--Drew+Apr 20 2003, 09:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drew @ Apr 20 2003, 09:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its a plugin. to have fun. join marines and play. stop complaining at every strange thing you see. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I would think that I for some reason got to test 1.1 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
i always expect wierd crap like that to fall out of the sky when i play on v servers. one of the reasons why i dont' frequent there no more. plus its always full of noobs
Bio gun was a worse imballance than mannable sieges. You just needed 5 bio grenades and one hive, not even a single resource, just minespam and you won.
<!--QuoteBegin--Drew+Apr 20 2003, 02:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Drew @ Apr 20 2003, 02:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 20 2003, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its a plugin. to have fun. join marines and play. stop complaining at every strange thing you see. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I've seen that happen once. In the first second too, not the first minute. I don't know how he did it, but the first rush to the marine base included an Onos.
I think it is good that someone is trying to be different.
He owns the server, it is HIS property, most people should understand what that means.
And no, I dont play there, I played there a few times, I dont like it, as I am a clanner and play seriously, so what? I dont go around bashing him everytime a thread comes up about his servers....
I was in the game with him, and I must say it was furstrating: First off, nowhere in the MOTD was there any mention of any siege mods, or, in fact, any mention of significant gameplay mods at all. This was not a voogru server, it was an {h2o} operated server on which I hadn't seen mods before.
Secondly, no one else in the game really knew what was going on, or at least they didn't tell us. I assumed intially that it was some sort of strange bug.
And getting one hit killed as a fade is not fun at all.
<!--QuoteBegin--wlibaers+Apr 20 2003, 01:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wlibaers @ Apr 20 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen that happen once. In the first second too, not the first minute. I don't know how he did it, but the first rush to the marine base included an Onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> before 1.04 there was a bug that let aliens keep the overflow resources from the previous game, so if you had an alien team with full res for a half hour then ended it, next round they would seemingly have infinite. but to get onos they wouldve had to build both hives,,, so ... thats strange... was the initial skulk rush about five minutes in ?
if sieges went at your crosshair that means they cant go through walls, right? so dont worry about overpowered sieges cuz they cant even shoot hives or WoL's....
<!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 20 2003, 05:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 20 2003, 05:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--wlibaers+Apr 20 2003, 01:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wlibaers @ Apr 20 2003, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen that happen once. In the first second too, not the first minute. I don't know how he did it, but the first rush to the marine base included an Onos. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> before 1.04 there was a bug that let aliens keep the overflow resources from the previous game, so if you had an alien team with full res for a half hour then ended it, next round they would seemingly have infinite. but to get onos they wouldve had to build both hives,,, so ... thats strange... was the initial skulk rush about five minutes in ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, that guy was Onos at the start of the game. Not sure if he spawned as Onos, but when I saw him a few seconds after the game started (not even enough time for evolving normally) he was Onos. Only happened once.
My siege plugin is open source now, Also if you see the plugin running on the server, the server admin is able to tweak the range/damage radius/damage/firerate of the gun. So if it seems overpowered it may be due to the admin tweaking the settings of it.
By default, the siege shouldnt kill a fade in one shot, it should take about 2-3 shots, the default reload time is 5 seconds, so if that fade is any good you will be dead by the time you get to the second shot. My suggested way to avoid them as fade, get regen and let them hit you once then run up to the controller, he is helpless for 5 seconds unless he stops using the siege.
The siege plugin was kinda meant for a "goof around" plugin. However if its setup right it could have intresting games. I may disable the sieges on my own servers since I dont like how they are being used in some cases. The code is a lot cooler than the idea since the way it hacks the siege think and use functions. (Which I think is a pretty creative way to hack it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).
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amen to that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (secretly runs off to voogru server to try to control seige cannon)
O_O
That's right - if something is overpowered, be sure to join the team that has the advantage so you can really slaughter the idiots stupid enough to be on the OTHER team.
now that thats been said
Then read coil's post.
Sorry if my first post sounded negative, I didn't intend for it to be, and I feel quite the opposite, voogru servers rock for the most part, and those who don't like them, their loss, one slot that won't be occupied when Im trying to connect <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
Then read coil's post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
SEE! the NS community is a nice place that listens to the moderators!
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for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that?
for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I would think that I for some reason got to test 1.1 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
You just needed 5 bio grenades and one hive, not even a single resource, just minespam and you won.
for someone that doesnt realize its a plugin that could seem really crazy.
if you saw an onos 1 minute into the game would you think something might be wrong with that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've seen that happen once. In the first second too, not the first minute. I don't know how he did it, but the first rush to the marine base included an Onos.
I think it is good that someone is trying to be different.
He owns the server, it is HIS property, most people should understand what that means.
And no, I dont play there, I played there a few times, I dont like it, as I am a clanner and play seriously, so what? I dont go around bashing him everytime a thread comes up about his servers....
First off, nowhere in the MOTD was there any mention of any siege mods, or, in fact, any mention of significant gameplay mods at all. This was not a voogru server, it was an {h2o} operated server on which I hadn't seen mods before.
Secondly, no one else in the game really knew what was going on, or at least they didn't tell us. I assumed intially that it was some sort of strange bug.
And getting one hit killed as a fade is not fun at all.
before 1.04 there was a bug that let aliens keep the overflow resources from the previous game, so if you had an alien team with full res for a half hour then ended it, next round they would seemingly have infinite. but to get onos they wouldve had to build both hives,,, so ... thats strange... was the initial skulk rush about five minutes in ?
if sieges went at your crosshair that means they cant go through walls, right? so dont worry about overpowered sieges cuz they cant even shoot hives or WoL's....
before 1.04 there was a bug that let aliens keep the overflow resources from the previous game, so if you had an alien team with full res for a half hour then ended it, next round they would seemingly have infinite. but to get onos they wouldve had to build both hives,,, so ... thats strange... was the initial skulk rush about five minutes in ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, that guy was Onos at the start of the game. Not sure if he spawned as Onos, but when I saw him a few seconds after the game started (not even enough time for evolving normally) he was Onos. Only happened once.
By default, the siege shouldnt kill a fade in one shot, it should take about 2-3 shots, the default reload time is 5 seconds, so if that fade is any good you will be dead by the time you get to the second shot. My suggested way to avoid them as fade, get regen and let them hit you once then run up to the controller, he is helpless for 5 seconds unless he stops using the siege.
The siege plugin was kinda meant for a "goof around" plugin. However if its setup right it could have intresting games. I may disable the sieges on my own servers since I dont like how they are being used in some cases. The code is a lot cooler than the idea since the way it hacks the siege think and use functions. (Which I think is a pretty creative way to hack it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).