Kick Joining
megadeath
Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12529Members
Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12529Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Does your admin kick join?</div> Kick joining = Kicking someone when the server is full so you can join.
ok admins, post whether you practice this or not. The Mr Men (clan/server) admins will use HLSW to ask if someone is idling in ready room before kicking. Otherwise they wait.
ok admins, post whether you practice this or not. The Mr Men (clan/server) admins will use HLSW to ask if someone is idling in ready room before kicking. Otherwise they wait.
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Piggy go skulk or be banned.
If not they usually just password it so they're guaranted a slot when someone leaves. Then when the server starts getting empty we wonder why till the admin realises he never took the PW off <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The problem with random kicking is the kicked person doesn't know why he/shes been kicked and you may have a substantial amount of res invested in you when you get kicked.
However as long as its in the server message I have no objection to it.
heh it started off good and ended quite badly.
well actually its not my server i just admin there so i have rules to follow to <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
*bow* on our server some time.
Personaly i much prefer a than b.
I've been auto kicked as:
1) Commander
2) Our teams sole gorge.
Once I was our sole gorge, two res away from putting up our first resource tower and got auto kicked. That can't be good for the team.
What would you rather I do, kick the person with the lowest ping? Or who has been playing the shortest time? I remember being a HPB, playing the game itself is hard enough, without being kicked all the time. And people who have just joined and started to enjoy themselves shouldnt be cast out just as they start to get their groove on.
On your server, some servers do actually kick a lot.
At the end of a day, when a server is very busy and you only get to play 2 nights a week like me, I'd rather risk upsetting one person once than sit waiting for the 3 hours a week I get free to get onto the machine sat by my left knee...
The other alternative I use sometimes is to announce on the server console that I'm coming in and would anyone mind leaving. That often works too, which is nice.
Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I DO care that the regulars on my server (and yes I've seen you on a lot megadeath) get a decent game, hence the high level of adminning.
Roo
At the end of a day, when a server is very busy and you only get to play 2 nights a week like me, I'd rather risk upsetting one person once than sit waiting for the 3 hours a week I get free to get onto the machine sat by my left knee...
The other alternative I use sometimes is to announce on the server console that I'm coming in and would anyone mind leaving. That often works too, which is nice.
Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I DO care that the regulars on my server (and yes I've seen you on a lot megadeath) get a decent game, hence the high level of adminning.
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sorry roob for bringing your server up as an example. I wasn't kicked by you but by someone else and i remember you saying to read the welcome screen when i reconnected to ask why i was kicked.
However, i totally agree that with your limited time you shouldn't have to wait. However I bet most people have lots more time and still kick more.
Edit -
I have realised now that I am not going to get the balance of discussion I wanted from this topic. Those servers' admin out there that do exercise random kick joining (and they are out there in their douzens) aren't going to own up. Those that have replied have tended to be those who care about their players. Don't be fooled, they are out there and please don't support them by going back.
As for kick join, i dont and wont kick anyone unless they are disruptive or idle in rr.
The same goes for the rest of the Mr.Men admin
Everyone deserves to play, regardless of ping and time on server... i was 56K for years
and it felt like i was always first to be kicked to make room for admin!
btw u like my math for the insane?
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yes Pig <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its nice to see so many admins caring about the players <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> what with it being so easy to get into a game of NS, it aint nice just to get kicked when in full flow or mid bite.
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yes Pig <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Its nice to see so many admins caring about the players <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> what with it being so easy to get into a game of NS, it aint nice just to get kicked when in full flow or mid bite. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mummra go skulk or be banned.
Piggeh luvz teh mathz.
edit - my sig pwns. As easy as taking candy from a piggeh.
I don't like getting kicked so someone can join, but it's more tolerable if it's not because of my connection to the internet.
I just woke up and am too tired to proof-read, all typos care of sleepy eyes.
2. Check for lamas
3. Look if anybody is insulting/disruptive/rambos too much.
4. Wait a bit
5. Kindly ask if anybody is willing to leave for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
6. Wait
It's not because I am an admin that I have to play on my clan's server...
Personally I check what stage the game is at before joining, and I do all the other things mentioned in previous posts ie. looking for idlers in the ready room, kicking a disruptive player etc.
I have tried to coach some of the regulars players to at least look at what the scores are first before they attempt to join, however some of them don't seem to contemplate the disruption that can occur when you kick a player mid to end game.
We have had problems with the gore being kicked just prior to building the hive, and also the commander being booted at vital moments.
Using HLSW is not an option atm, since we have a live feed setup to our IRC channels that allow our members to monitor the servers from IRC. So the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. One person logging in from HLSW will kill the live feed to IRC, (although it can be reset), so in general we don't use it.
Our server is pretty popular to play on, and many people still comeback despite the problems that can occur in busy times. I think that if you run a good server, then people will overlook the problem of auto kicking and still attempt to get on. Our answer to the problem is to continue to monitor who are the players that we like to play with (ie. good teamwork, good attitudes) and increase the number of reserve slot holders. Since the majority of the time the gorge or the commander will be a regular player, this alleviates these problems. We now have a fairly extensive list of regular reserve slot players and the majority of the time the server is populated by reserve slotters. This can make it tough for people who only visit occasionally, however the CoFR server is run primarily for CoFR members enjoyment and the needs of our members outway the needs the pub players.
The auto kick, kicks by ping. The highest pinging non reserve slot player is kicked.