Servers For Newbies ?
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Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6944Members
Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6944Members
<div class="IPBDescription">('cause regular ones hate newbies)</div> Just wondering if there are any servers dedicated to newbies wanting to learn about the game and especialy about being a commander or a gorg.
I want to know so I can suggest it to newbies I see in games that are being **** off by the majority of teammates that ABSOLUTLY DON'T WANT THEM TO BE A COMMANDER OR A GORG. I've seen some that actualy left the game because others wouldn't want to give them a chance to learn.
I understand both sides in this situation. I wouldn't like it if my team had lost because of a newbie but at the same time, I'm thinking way back when I was a newbie (6 months ago) and had a hard time convincing people to let me be a commander or gorg to get expertise. Frankly, I like being a gorg better then a commander. Commander's job is very stressfull and alot of marines keep asking for stuffs when they don't even know if it's possible or not.
So to give a chance to any new comers to NS, is there such a thing as a newbie server ?
P.S :
Think of it this way, wouldn't it be great for you if Newbies were playing on another server (so you can keep winning those current games), peacefully to get better and maybe coming back in a few months or so to realy help your team win ?
P.S. : think of it this way, if Newbies could play to all theire happyness desires on a server different then the one you are playing, wouldn't that be great ? And if those newbies would then peacefully get better and better, then they would perhaps realy help your team next month or so ?
I want to know so I can suggest it to newbies I see in games that are being **** off by the majority of teammates that ABSOLUTLY DON'T WANT THEM TO BE A COMMANDER OR A GORG. I've seen some that actualy left the game because others wouldn't want to give them a chance to learn.
I understand both sides in this situation. I wouldn't like it if my team had lost because of a newbie but at the same time, I'm thinking way back when I was a newbie (6 months ago) and had a hard time convincing people to let me be a commander or gorg to get expertise. Frankly, I like being a gorg better then a commander. Commander's job is very stressfull and alot of marines keep asking for stuffs when they don't even know if it's possible or not.
So to give a chance to any new comers to NS, is there such a thing as a newbie server ?
P.S :
Think of it this way, wouldn't it be great for you if Newbies were playing on another server (so you can keep winning those current games), peacefully to get better and maybe coming back in a few months or so to realy help your team win ?
P.S. : think of it this way, if Newbies could play to all theire happyness desires on a server different then the one you are playing, wouldn't that be great ? And if those newbies would then peacefully get better and better, then they would perhaps realy help your team next month or so ?
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Newbies are weclome to play (but not comm) at:
MantyLAN NS 66.150.106.121:27015
Don't be intimidated by all the regulars, they are all great guys.
Just follow orders and you'll be fine.
I think there are some newbie servers... whatever happened to the guide scheme? But generally... I was going to say there will be people who help, but that's a lie - *sometimes* there will be people who help, usually they're too interested in winning to deviate from THE PLAN and let someone new have a go. I'd say that any new guys really should play as a standard marine or skulk at first, just to get a feel for the game and to know what the commander or gorge is generally supposed to be doing. If you're alien, guard the gorge - that way he gets backup, and you get to watch how things are done. And when it comes to your time... hell, if people aren't letting someone new gorge, then just pretend you know what you're doing - hopefully you will by this point. And hey, there's always room for a second gorge if you're capping res points (just get redemption <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->). And I find that getting into the comm chair isn't exactly a challenge these days :o
wouldn't it be great if Newbies could play on another server peacefully to all theire happy little desires (and gatter skills and knowledge without stress or pressure) so you could keep winning your current games, and then come back on your server in a few months to realy help your team win even better ?
Newbies are weclome to play (but not comm) at:
MantyLAN NS 66.150.106.121:27015
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Thanks, I'm sure alot of people will start to REALLY like your server.
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Thanks but there aren't many people like you that actualy take the time to help new guys. I do it myself but most of the time, the kind of help I see toward Newbies is verbaly without any examples or showing how.
Learning with visual examples and a teacher is preferable. I guess it should be done more in a quiet game then in the heat of action.
Can't tell if thats supposed to be sarcasm or some kind of dis or what, but it sure sounds like it is.
I don't think it's an unreasonable request for someone who doesn't know the game to stay out of the chair. Do you get on a commerical airliner and just jump right into the pilot seat and fly the plane? No, of course not, because it takes time to learn.
Can't tell if thats supposed to be sarcasm or some kind of dis or what, but it sure sounds like it is.
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Sorry for that but I meant, Newbies being aware of your invitation will love your server.
Don't you love bars that are open-bar often ? You usualy go back to them for that.
Server is a very busy server and we teach a lot of new players that come in.
148.88.90.91:27015
I haven't been able to play there in a long while, but if there are EC's on the server than you can expect them to be pretty friendly guys. Tell 'em coil sent you. Then they'll come kill me instead of you. (; Just kidding. They're good people.
I suggest find a newbie friendly server, and then ask to be comm, making sure you let the other people know you're knew.
Just join an American server. Sorted.
JaG
I didn't command until my 4th game and that was because everyone else had no clue what they were doing. If I had had a choice (which you all should), don't jump in a chair.
However, after at least 1 day or two of hardcore gaming (at least 8 hours under your belt) and you should do fine. Or at least, know the gist of how to comm (aka tech/jp rush). Being a good comm requires good marines; it's very easy to be a "bad" comm when your players are bad players/tacticians.
PS most newbs should never go marine. They can't follow waypoints for their life. skulks are better since you have hivesight.
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yeh, the best way to learn how to comm is to be a marine and experience what the comm does, same as gorge. in nearly every game u hear 3/4 res then 3 dc then hive. (dc/ res can be built together) . so yeh listenging, watching is the best way. make a lan game and check out the control also. or downlaod bots!!! (although they make u insane, but they are pretty good as it is a complex game)
the last bit however new players are advised to go marines as you have ranged weapons so its more like new playhers are used too. CS, CTF, DoD etc. marines are easier to play technically but waypoints etc i agree with u that sometimes takes a good knowledge of the map.
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Definelty a good place to go. The level of play there shouldn't be too tough to learn there.
I remember myself watching this little fattie moving around and dropping some odd looking structures (yeah i didnt first know what they were) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Most classic moment ever, when i first saw Oni coming trough the ns_eclipse door, "ONOS!" i yelled, and started running away, other marines joined me and we ran away.. hehe, man that was so fun. I actually got lucky on that same game, i knifed the onos , he was injured so.. just luck was involved.
Ok.. i'm offtopic so closing line, its fun to remember the good ol' times & games.
Well, once I move (end of July), that's precisely the type of server I'm setting up.
No mods (except unstuck), and just barebones NS, learn how to play...
I might even build a few custom maps that work like tutorials..
The only thing that I've thought about, is what stops the griefers from coming on the server, and ruining a newbies first experience or more experienced lamers from coming on and having target practise. I mean, you can admin a server into the ground, but at a certain point, players have to play.
Any thoughts about this?
Mostly poking them, but some of that future bit too.
64.237.35.100:27015
Of course, if you just want a good, fun social game on a server with frequent admin presense and Bozman, nano-gridlock is your bag too. ^^
You'll still probably lose, but at least you'll learn something from it.
"When you see a structure placed onto the ground like this :: poof :: you should walk up to it and press your USE key. Very good!"
Then a section on how to be a commander. Then it switches you to aliens and you do all of the same things as Kharaa. People like to learn by playing the game, and it gets them familiar with weapons and such without having to learn how to create a LAN game, do sv_cheats, then fumble through everything by themselves. A training map is probably down somewhere on the dev team's ToDo list. I think it'd be more useful than dedicated servers.
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I like your idea ! I think doing a training map would be a ideal for newbies.
Isn't there a thread for how to build a training map ? I might do it if I know how. I never did any HL maps. I used to do Quake series maps. I would have to find time to do it 'cause I am busy with other projects and have so little time.
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I have found threads about training maps. They are asking about an official training map but not how to do them.
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=32946&hl=training+map' target='_blank'>Thread #1</a>
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=33554&hl=training+map' target='_blank'>Thread #2</a>
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=32493&hl=training+map' target='_blank'>Thread #3</a>
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<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=34657' target='_blank'>I posted a thread in the maping section to ask infos on how to do it and if a small contest could be done so the community could do training maps and the NS guys could pick the best one for v3.0</a>