placing mines in a hallway with a direct line of sight to the hive works well also. 4-5 packs of mines can easily seal off an area while you take shots at the hive. this works well on the maintenance, subspace array, and waste handling hives. i know this isn't something new, but you don't see it too much.
<!--QuoteBegin--LaCHiE+May 14 2003, 06:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LaCHiE @ May 14 2003, 06:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Rushing as Marines in the first few minutes of the game is always great fun, espicially if you win...
All you need is some team work! and ofcourse some shottys always give ya a little hand <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I did that as part of a weird group once. We played Nancy and won about 3 times by laying down an IP, armoury and some shotties. we just went to their hive and boon them all down.
I don't really like rushing though. I just enjoyed that as a novelty. And because we won. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
but if the aliens do the same thing.. When u guys attacks hive, they gather somewhere, and attacks your back <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> beware
X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
i've never seen it happen, but has a marine team rushed RIGHT from the start? a good marine is more than a match for one skulk right at the beginning. Maybe an early marine rush with no buildings would work? Dont flame me down, i've never seen it happen (and im not likely to get a marine team to go along with it) but has anyone else?
<!--QuoteBegin--i'm lost+May 15 2003, 03:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ May 15 2003, 03:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marine rushes don't happen immediately, everyone gets shotties or mines or both first. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not usually.
Most of the time you send out a few guys to start taking down skulks with LMG's. Or just screw the whole shotty thing and send your guys out with LMG's anyway. Marines rape Skulks without carapace even with weak weapons, so you don't need to bother spending the res on shotties.
I like to get an Observatory up so if the rush screws up, everyone is back in the base against a counter-rush.
While we have won clan games right off the bat with a full team (no commander) lmg rush (no one died). I've never seen a marine team try to rush with no IP. It just doesn't make sense since group building an IP takes all of 3 seconds.
In large games I've seen many direct marine rushes, although most while as an alien so it could have been a stupid comm who was trying to relocate inside of our hive. Although that can work too. Rushes as marines can be fun but for the most part 2 minute games are cheap.
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
Good marine rush (kinda boring tho): Build ip, armory. Have one marine go out and cap nodes, while others get full ammo and proceed to hive; spam health if necessary. Build armory near hive, drop some mines. Marines now no longer need to receive ammo packs as they spawn camp and shoot the hive. Usually you will slow down aliens by a decent amount, and a gorge will die in the process. Scenario one: Your spawn camping works, and you win the game. Scenario two: aliens manage to take down you team and your armory near their hive, so continue as normal, since you have delayed them, and you have capped many res nozzles. Proceed to get jp/hmg, and go finish off the hurt hive.
Hmm...this sounds awfully like what happens on many, MANY clan games.
Marine rushes does not need to include Res, mines or shotguns...just go to a place outside their hive, then build a CC, 2 IPs and an armoury...have a nice day
first thing building CC near marine hive won't nesscery win you the game.. it's all depneds on the hive itaself.. for example buidling outside eclipse(in ns_eclipse_) won't give u **** since your marine would be slughtered,,, but building near cargo(ns_nothing)will porbably win you the game....
marine rushs work but they are just not fun.. .espicaly for the aliens but also for the marines.. **Yay shooting @ the hive and spawning aliens yupi kay yay yupi kay*** this way you lots of fun parts of the game..
X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
while rushing around on my own today i took out 7 gorgs and build the PG, TF 2 sieges and i think some sentries that took the hive. Of course, the alien team was pants, but there was a complete **** on the rine team as well.
As stickman put it so accuretly.. <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the alien team was pants<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it can not and would not happen on a normal server <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->? anyway when we are talking on the more genral cases rushing is just not fun
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All you need is some team work! and ofcourse some shottys always give ya a little hand <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did that as part of a weird group once. We played Nancy and won about 3 times by laying down an IP, armoury and some shotties. we just went to their hive and boon them all down.
I don't really like rushing though. I just enjoyed that as a novelty. And because we won. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Not usually.
Most of the time you send out a few guys to start taking down skulks with LMG's. Or just screw the whole shotty thing and send your guys out with LMG's anyway. Marines rape Skulks without carapace even with weak weapons, so you don't need to bother spending the res on shotties.
I like to get an Observatory up so if the rush screws up, everyone is back in the base against a counter-rush.
Hmm...this sounds awfully like what happens on many, MANY clan games.
marine rushs work but they are just not fun.. .espicaly for the aliens but also for the marines.. **Yay shooting @ the hive and spawning aliens yupi kay yay yupi kay***
this way you lots of fun parts of the game..
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the alien team was pants<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it can not and would not happen on a normal server
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->?
anyway when we are talking on the more genral cases rushing is just not fun