Marine Blood

bert · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">any gore in 1.1?</div> Some v1.04 servers have a mod that makes marines bleed when bitten or shot.

will there be any sort blood loss on the marine side in v1.1?

thats my main question (i searched before hand and i couldn't find it addressed in any post yet)

side questions while you're at it:
-new marine death animations? (is the spasming seal look still in there?)
-where can i find the server mod that makes marines bleed in v1.04?

thx,

cockbert.

Frogg2 · May 2003

no

Byeka · May 2003

Let me add some thing extra to the end of that "no".

If I recall reading correctly NS will never contain blood and gore. The closest to this will be the off, def, etc. chamber exploding into goo when dead. NS should not have to be rated mature, therefore, no blood.

Of course there really isn't anything officials can do if someone develops a pluggin for their server <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Kenichi · May 2003

Flay has said before that there will never be gore in NS. It just isn't that type of game.

Maian · May 2003

If you're an alien, is there any way to see if hit a marine (and don't kill him)?

JHunz · May 2003

There's a hit feedback sound, but it's a bit hard to hear. Sort of a little crunch sound.

Maian · May 2003

Is this hit sound discernable from the skulk bite and fade swipe sounds?

criticaI · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maian @ May 14 2003, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is this hit sound discernable from the skulk bite and fade swipe sounds?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yep. once you get 1.1 and try out silence, that sound is the only sound played. You can listen for the difference in 1.04 by attacking a wall vs attacking thin air. wall attack plays the sound (cause you've hit something) and air attack doesn't play the sound (no hit)

MedHead · May 2003

Yes, it sounds like the typical flesh squish. Kinda like squeezing cabbage.

I haven't heard the new sound, only the current version, so it might have changed.

Paq · May 2003

I have the hit sound from AvP. It's pretty cool "flesh" sound. I have no problems hearing, when i hit or doesn't hit to a marine. But it sound's pretty odd when i bite a structure or a wall <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

If anyone want's it, i can attach that sound in here, as soon as i get home from work <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
<span style='color:orange'>EDIT:</span>Crap, i forgot that i can't upload anything in this beta discussion
Maybe i host it then <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

LaCHiE · May 2003

ah well, least the aliens bleed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

TickTock · May 2003

What if their armor sparked as your teeth glanced off? All the little nanites getting pissy when they are attacked...

CEldin · May 2003

Armor does spark. Look closer.

Battousaix · May 2003

the armor sparks when they get hit by ranged attacks,if you bite them it wont spark, if u spike them it does spark =)

Guspaz · May 2003

Sigh, the aliens bleed, why shouldn't the marines? That "It's not that kind of game" stuff doesn't hold water.

Jower · May 2003

For the same reason carmageddon splat pack was rated less mature than the original carmageddon

Twilight_Wolf · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Guspaz @ May 15 2003, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sigh, the aliens bleed, why shouldn't the marines? That "It's not that kind of game" stuff doesn't hold water.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Sure does man...it was always a different thing if there was Alien blood on the walls, or human blood....Like in germany C&C1 had no human marines but Robots who squirtet Oil instead of blood...the people who rate games for "maturity" don't like human blood showing I guess...

Jower · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twilight Wolf @ May 16 2003, 10:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the people who rate games for "maturity"  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Who also live in germany
hehe
I haven't seen anything like this elsewhere

Roobubba · May 2003

I've installed the blood plugin (by Hullu) on my server, but am concerned that as the front line for the NS team's creation I'm going completely against their wishes.

I have no intention of removing the blood without their input though, so long live blood!

Roo

Nemesis_Zero · May 2003

I don't know how often I'll have to repeat it, but once again: <b>Age rating restrictions were <i>not</i> the motivation for excluding marine blood.</b> It was a descision by Flayra, who decided that, to him, NS was just not the game where human livers should fly around. The aliens with their different aesthetics are a different topic.

Take this to a bank, cash it, and go on a vacation from this damn subject.

eggmac · May 2003

It doesn't really matter whether there is blood or not, but it helps a lot if you really see whether you hit a target or not, especially as a skulk. Isn't it possible to let it graphically indicate by, say, some pieces of armour/kevlar that have been bitten off...

KhazModan · May 2003

you can get scent of fear upgrade too. you see a health marine u attack healthy marine becomes injured, adn you can see that by red ness on teh hive sight or soemthing i dunno

mstr · May 2003

I agree that marine blood should be there.

No, I don't get perverse pleasure from seeing blood. (like some people against blood seem to flame those, who want to see it) I'm just annoyed by the fact, that <b>aliens don't get proper feedback when they hit enemies</b>, like marines do. When skulkbite hits, you may hear it but don't see anything. And acid rockets... they feel like you could throw them around for hours, and they would do nothing. Yea, I know that they eventually kill enemies, but they feel amazingly powerless and that's not nice. When you shoot enemies as a marine, those splats tell you that you actully hurt the enemy. I never even knew about hitsparks, until I read about them and looked really carefully. They are useless.

Summary: Blood has gameplay value telling you that a hit was registered. Saying that marine blood is too rough for players, while happily having aliens spill their blood, is just doublefaced.

My_Personal_Insanity · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ May 16 2003, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It doesn't really matter whether there is blood or not, but it helps a lot if you really see whether you hit a target or not, especially as a skulk. Isn't it possible to let it graphically indicate by, say, some pieces of armour/kevlar that have been bitten off...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I second that, it wouldn't need to be blood, but greater visual feedback
from a hit would be nice.

Beast · May 2003

just make a more accessable server side mod thingy for it, job done, marine blood.

Jabba_The_Hunt · May 2003

I've played on a server with marine blood, and while I found it very scarey going round a corner to see the walls painted with marine blood, thinking to myself where the hell is the skulk that did this? I didnt think it felt like ns, the blood seemed out of place.

ZERG · May 2003

What is with your obsession with blood!? Go back to Mortal Kombat you sickos.

Incitatus · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ May 16 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What is with your obsession with blood!? Go back to Mortal Kombat you sickos.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Totally agree!!

Nysv · May 2003

I don't really care is there blood or not, but some indication for "marine was hurt in here recently" would be great.
Alien goo splatter tells tales of skulks, but there is nothing to prepare you for offence chambers or other ranged alien danger around the corner.
If it can't be blood how about bits of marine armor falling when taking damage or something like that?

Jower · May 2003

Sparks from the armor when you hit it ?

Shockeh · May 2003

Mmmmm. Undecided. I can see the reasoning behind not having it, but having played with it now, it's quite handy if for no reason other than feedback is a little easier to see.

I'd suggest everyone tries a server with it, and sees what they think. Possibly the inclusion devs as a cvar defaulted to 0?

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