Solo Gorge Attack

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

I've been trying out this new tactic when I get the chance, here's how it works.

Rush into a marine area with carapace.
Aim straight down and build a DC. You have just got yourself stuck right in the middle of a DC, so you are hard to attack.
Now start building and healing simultaneously so the marines can't kill the DC.
Drop OC's all around your DC while doing this.
Keep turning round and round building each of the OC's slightly.

You should now have 6 OC's with a DC in the middle attacking. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

lagger · May 2003

Hmm, If the dc covered you completely it would be a somewhat viable idea, but at the moment you can easly be shot even while clipped inside a dc. Also, in v1.1 the structs take damage while building so :/.

Farsight · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CheesyPeteza @ May 22 2003, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I've been trying out this new tactic when I get the chance, here's how it works.

Rush into a marine area with carapace.
Aim straight down and build a DC. You have just got yourself stuck right in the middle of a DC, so you are hard to attack.
Now start building and healing simultaneously so the marines can't kill the DC.
Drop OC's all around your DC while doing this.
Keep turning round and round building each of the OC's slightly.

You should now have 6 OC's with a DC in the middle attacking. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Does it actually work? or do you die a lot?

ThinG · May 2003

won't work...

srry m8, but it really won't unless the rine base is empty, you havent got adrenaline, and you'll die before you get the dc up, and you could only survive with 3 dc's, and by then you'd be long gone...

that's just my humble opinion

Cheers <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

No you've got it wrong, of course the DC doesn't cover you completely. That is why you have to drop the oc's fast, when I say drop a dc then oc's all around I mean do that within about 5 seconds. While you are building structures they will not die. Yes this will not work in 1.1.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

I've killed unbuilt structures before. Haven't I? Have I??? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Skillzilla1 · May 2003

Well, if you get stuck your adreneline doesn't replenish...

pardzh · May 2003

Anyway, a smart Marine would hop the chamber and gun your **** down. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Geronimo · May 2003

7*14 = 91

Sorry man but 7 Chambers just wont work like that...otherwise it might be better to live in an oc and drop a DC behind you...

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

OK I'll stop taking over marine bases with it then as from reading here it obviously doesn't work.

Geronimo · May 2003

well...if you feel 98 res worth of Towers in main marine hold is better than a hive and a DC under it...

problem is that 4-5 marines raining bullets on OCs in the open will kill them rather swiftly...

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geronimo @ May 23 2003, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> well...if you feel 98 res worth of Towers in main marine hold is better than a hive and a DC under it...

problem is that 4-5 marines raining bullets on OCs in the open will kill them rather swiftly...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
This is the last strategy I post here. You lot should go to a site like sogamed and see how a community should act. You'd be more likely to see comments like "this is in an interesting idea but I don't see how it would work", or "wouldn't it work better if...". In this forum you just get people stating it won't work without trying it and then trying to put the poster down and make him sound like an idiot. You lot should stop following all the threads in this forum looking for opportunities to put other people down and trying to make yourself look smart and actually post some constructive comments instead.

First of all I assumed the majority of people in this forum knew that everytime you build a structure slightly it goes to 100% health. This is what makes this tactic work. The idea is to constantly build all the structures slightly by going round and round so that they are invincible. Of course the simple solution to this as a marine is to kill the gorge, but your stuck in the middle of a DC between the OC's so this is hard to do.

Whoever posted the comment they can just jump over the structures and kill the gorge is missing the whole point of this tactic.

Geronimo I never said this was better than a hive. I'd go for a hive everytime if there was one free.

Yes 4-5 marines shooting OC's that I'm not building may well stop it. I'm sorry this doesn't work 100% of the time.

I have got this to work 50% of the time, but as I get better at it I am having more success. I now build 1-2 OC's first, then the DC on top of myself, and OC's all around.

If there is a lot of marines in the room it won't work. You are vulnerable until you get the structures up. Wait until you hear most of the marines leave, then attack. By the time they get back through the PG hopefully you have placed the structures and can start building them all. Then even 4-5 marines can't stop you.

big_fat_c0w · May 2003

although it's a nice startgey without any doubt and i beilive it's quite funny
anyway.. i think that if u build anthoer DC it could be effactive to a skulk that woulld help you and assuming u get the stractures up.. you got that pos,.,, and if not at least u got all those stupid mines out of the way.. .anyway i am not sure that it would work in a solo... but maybe if 2-3 skulks would help u after u build the DC i am quite sure that even if it won't work it would cause a lot havoc and desetrucition

hehe... anyway i would like to see that...
i think i would rofl for about an hour if you actully take the base..

Church · May 2003

the problem would be dropping the DC exactly right so you are completely protected by your DC. This would be hard to do I imagine (or else gorges would be doing it all the time) before the mariens kill you. And I'd wager that a grenade launcher would kill off either you or your structures that are building. The nades have a splash effect so you'd still get damaged so a few nades and you're gone. I mean I'm sure the rines have an upgraded armory by the time you decide to do this solo gorge attack since that means all hives are taken. If the comm had lots of res to blow he could just drop a few comm chairs to distract any O chambers that you put up, and then build a seige...

Anyways, if it works, good for you. I'd love to see it sometime. It'd be funny.

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

You just have to aim straight down, so as long as you haven't tweaked cl_pitchdown you can do it everytime easily.

I tend to use it when I've just saved up enough money for the 2nd hive and the marines have just moved into it and are putting up turrets. Get the skulks to mass attack then follow in behind them. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> No sieges or grenade launchers to worry about at that stage.

Error404 · May 2003

If it's the same Cheesy Peteza that I sometimes play on the YO clan servers with, then you should listen to him, I've seen him play, and he's a good and creative player.

I think this strategy could work, but a good place to build it would be right next to the command chair, so you don't have to build OCs all the way round, and it blocks of one side to attacks, although it would require alot of luck rushing there without dying against a good marine team.

CheesyPeteza · May 2003

LOL thanks for the support, having played with me before I would've expected you to say isn't that the frikkin admin who doesn't stop shouting at everyone on his team for being useless and takes the game far too seriously. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned that this technique could be consider exploiting cos it uses 2 bugs. First building on yourself, and second building structures returns them to full health. :o

I am teh h4x. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Citadel · May 2003

i reckon its a great idea and that i would work but i have to agree with cheesy peteza. I would only do it if the game was going fairly and the rines werent in their dying stage

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Nupi · May 2003

Welll. i have taken out the entire marine base as gorge, alone :> But the situation was completely different.

Long time ago, actually on v1.03 at ns_nancy, marines were strong (2 hive lockdown, but not many resources though). They had the original base at marine start, i just thought to myself that even if my plan fails, our game would end soon anyway.. see my point? :]

I just waited for the right moment, when no marines where dieing, and spawning again.. my moment arrived, so i ran as fast i could as a skulk, hide myself inside their base, near the corner. (there were no mines/turrets). Just as i evolved, one marine died.. and respawned (he didnt see me). Seconds later i had already 100/100 resources, it was nice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>. I dropped 3 DC's in front of me, creating a barrier for bullets (whoosh, my resources were 100 again) and 6 oc's, and some more DC's.

Then the "war" started, all the marines started to defend their base, but it was too much, so they relocated to subpspace and used their last remaining resouces to build everything again. In the end they were so poor that, couldn't even afford a set of mines. Then we made our massive attack to subspace.. outcome = victory :>. Yes it was a small server though.. 16/16, probably wont work on bigger servers.

Pege · May 2003

That's a crazy strategy. If the marines have any brains, they will jump over the DC and gun you down. I've seen some desperate gorges try to hold areas or even attack ones by trying to build fast, but I usually just gun em down and knife their stuff. It will work if you find an empty base somewhere far away with sentries, TF, but no PG so marines can't get there. Personally, the minute I saw the topic, I thought "Oh, god. Some newbie doesn't want to get into his head that people dislike attacking gorges for a reason". I remember that this strategy was actually used in 1.03 or 1.02 (the good ol' "everyone's a n00b"-times), but it's been long abandoned and I have to agree that it's totally useless unless the marines have the brains of a rodent. If you can't find anything better to do with your gorge than attack marine bases (even though there are RTs and possibly a hive free), maybe you shouldn't gorge...

sej · May 2003

Actually i found this out by accident a couple months ago....

Was in eclipse hive which was locked down with turrets but no siege(cos of the bug), got myself stuck on a dc, thought arse, there goes my attack down the drain....then i realised i could build around me, and stack chambers on top of each other.

In the end there were 8 ocs stacked on top of each other/4 dcs, with me in the centre, got the hive back and went on to win <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Error404 · May 2003

Could you drop another DC ontop of you, and sink it by spitting it, so you get several DCs inside you? That'll make you almost invincible.

Turkey2 · May 2003

umm I knew that when you built a structure when it's finished it goes back to full health, but I've seen plenty of structures go down while someone was building them. Especially d chambers, the die while unbuilt with like half a clip of lmg fire. Building and healspraying (which if you do this you didnt mention it) will often enable you to get some of these structures up, but d chambers fall too fast to try one first. O chamber first would work better, or if the entire point of the single chamber is to build on yourself was so they cant hit you as well then I would go sensory if you have it, since sens has more life than anything else. I like this strat a little better when you have 2 gorges so that you can heal eachother and build more than one building at a time.

Question if the chamber is healed everytime you build on it, does it only heal everytime you start building? cus that may be my problem.

Sidenote most of the early posts, while not necessarily constructive criticism weren't outright flames and definitely weren't attacks against you so dont take it so personally.

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