heh, i quit ns because i... got a job... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
What good does it really do you oblique. You do know that teaser information only serves to tease. I dont much think being teased is so great a thing. Ya its good to know but in the end how does the info do anything except highlight how poor the current game is in comparisson?
Truth be told, and I say this in all honesty, 1.1 is shaping up to be a disapointment.
Reading through the beta discussion forum, it becomes clear that when teams of VETERAN CLANNERS cannot defeat an alien side then something is drastically wrong. I play on pubs almost exclusively, and whilst the pub servers I play on are filled with fairly veteran players, I shudder to think of how they're going to win in 1.1 as marines.
I do have faith in the devs, although that was shaken when I saw Flayra announcing a return of the "res for frags" system which I'd seen in ancient pre-1.0 screenshots, something which seems to be fundamentally against everything NS stands for. 1.1 though still has a fair way to go. As it stands though I hope some serious changes are implemented before it is unleased upon the world.
<!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> I usually play NS for about 10 to 15 hours aday straight sometimes longer,learning every tactic,strat, I can and maybe apply those same tactics and strats to NS v1.1 when it comes out.OH I LOVE NS <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
ns 1.04 and ns v1.1 are the same in respect to aliens vs marines,just the thing that has changed is weapons, equipment,commander stuff etc. so it's the same game just alot of different stuff so v1.1 should be easy to play if ya played 1.04 alot.
Although I enjoy playing NS 1,04 quite abit it's starting to get boring sitting here waiting for 1.1 to come out while the devs n pts get to have their fun with it first.I mean this is what should have been done,NS v1.1 should have been released to the public first then let "The People" look for bugs,exploits and let the playtesters and devs and flay know about it then come out with a patch instead of doing everything at first lol have a nice day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well, there is the NS merchandise to earn money on... And, well, I try to find newbie servers nowadays, so I don't have to endure being "pwned up teh 4$$" as an alien every single time I play. If I'm playing on a vet server because I found some friends, I either tell all but one of them to go alien, so we can have a fair, long, interesting game. That, or I camp the marine entrance. You can probably tell I'm sick of losing.
<!--QuoteBegin--0blique+May 26 2003, 11:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ May 26 2003, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Great, so now we'll never get prelease information about new versions again. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, I don't think that this is such a bad thing.
As people have said here already, knowing alot about what is going to happen in the next version tends to kill interest in all but the most loyal 1.04 player.
E.g. The lerk seems to be under-going some radical changes. As a casual 1.04 player I don't really want to invest any more time learning techniques and strategies that will soon no longer be available. As a side point, this illustrates the danger of radical changes (removal of weapons etc) in that players may well feel that invested-time has been for nought.
This in combination with the influx of what seems to be a hoard of immature/disrespectul players has certainly got me to the point where I no longer play 1.04. I mention this here to reinforce the fact that this issue is not limited to a mere handful of players...I'd wager its fairly widespread amongst the community.
Another problem I think is that because 1.1 still appears to be in a state of flux people become edgy because of the unknown factor and because of perceived delays in release tiime.
I think NS has a bright future still. Ignorance of 1.1 details is probably not such a bad thing...although its too late now.
For Flay: take heart from the fact that people are hungry for 1.1 !! That should tell you something .
Flay I love NS and all (don't have problems with exploits, see someone using flashlight exploit warn em i see it again 10 min ban. They come back and do it again I perm ban) the problem I have is getting players :-( I can only seem to get players when I go sit in the server and turn on cheats and entertain myself cause I can't play alone. I'm just annoyed with having an empty server 24/7 and not being able to advertise anywhere other than my sig :-(
*edit* Btw all those suggesting they send it out to the ppl first WTH kind of crack you on. You know how much bandwidth that would take? Only reason some servers got to test betas before was because it was only a server side patch.
Although my free time is currently sucked away by vice city, rise of nations, raven shield, <i>and</i> master of orion 3 and I've stopped playing NS for a while, I don't really feel that NS isn't fun or enjoyable. I still read the forums, obviously. It's just a matter of I have things that are fresh and new, and the explorer in me is quite enthralled. If just different is what you want, something to explore, find another game to occupy yourself with until 1.1 comes out. I'd much rather take a break from NS until I beat the mess out of my other titles than have 1.1 rushed and not want to play it at all. There's other stuff for you to do with yourself, so don't take it out on the guy that gives you stuff for free <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
There are lots of people who have taken a vacation from 1.04. But it's just a vacation. There are too many wonderful things about the NS experiance to stay away from forever. They'll be back <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (NS addiction all the way)
yeah i sorta lost my interest in NS too... before if i couldnt get into my local servers id wait for ages to get in... now i either jus dont go or play a round of CS or too
right now my favorite is DOD v1.0 omg... sweeet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
After reading about 1.1 I have had my doubts about playing 1.04 aswell, I still play it but very less and I usually quit when the map changes to a map ive played way too much, and thats the point actually, I have played 1.04 too much. Of course Im dying for 1.1 (doh), and thats just a bigger reason to not play 1.04. And I dont think its negative to say," I have played 1.04 long enough and its time to move on"
NS isnt finished at all, IMO 1.04 was a teaser! And I have been teased enough.
Ive had so much fun, words cant even describe it, and Im happy there will be a new release of this game very soon that will probly even be more fun to play and maybe even for a longer time.
Compared to my favourite game GTA this is a lot longer...
<!--QuoteBegin--thejackal+May 26 2003, 04:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (thejackal @ May 26 2003, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i still play alot of NS on pubs, only mod i play now, there seems to be fewer expierenced players playing on most server, and i'm stuck trying to com n00bs, and loosing seems to be a habit that marines are getting in to <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> doh <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have never stopped playing, even if there is lots of noobs(?), llamas trying to spoil the game/fun for me (or more) they wont/will not ruin it for me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->. I still enjoy NS just as much when NS was released.
for me.. i think i played <b>NS</b> way too much.. no wonder i got bored with it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> but im not gonna leave <b>NS</b> ever <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> it has too much potential for more and better teamgame... which it will be... eventually <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I hope 1.1 will be here soon... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--stellerwinds+May 27 2003, 04:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stellerwinds @ May 27 2003, 04:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know back in the old days of TF and such we ALL played the "betas". I really dont understand this new exclusive junk at all. Last time i checked NS was still a mod right or was it released by valve or some company that requires an NDA so others cant steal and sell their idea.
What the hey.
I think most people are smart enough to understand the game is still being worked on and wouldnt freak out and leave if there were bugs. It dont gota be perfect. Sorry to be blunt but its just plain stupid to have the same old game being played until everyone is bored of it while there is another playable version being kept hidden away. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree. The NS teams' strategie is pretty bad. There are business models on how to use hype and **** like that, they're just making it harder on themselves. G00seman and Cliffe had a much better feel for these thing, although I'll admit NS is MUCH more ambitious.
1. NS is still a small community. 2. The backbone of the community is usually the devs, vets and PTs. 3. All the devs, PTs and a lot of the vets are now testing NS1.1 effectively forming their own community and leaving the NS1.04 people behind.
This has pretty much starved the 1.04 community, so to speak. So right now, we 1.04 peps have the choice of either taking a break while the "stupid kids" play 1.04 or trying to rebuild the community.
Personally i'm one of those dumb people who can't find F4 and always try to join the losing team... So now i'm going to leave these boards for a few hours so i can get some NS-action.. cya
I think it was a pretty "stupid" move to start a 1.1 beta discussion forum. Now people wait with drool coming out of their mouths and read the veterans discussing how great the new version is. It all makes 1.04 feel dull and simplistic. So, people quit playing 1.04, wait for a week or so for 1.1 while checking out other mods. If everything goes bad, they find a new good mod, forget about NS and after 2 weeks don't even remember there was 1.1 coming. Because there are not enough players, server admins shut their servers and shrink the community even further. There is probably going to be a huge boost of players when 1.1 comes out, but I doubt there will be as much as there were when 1.04 got released. With 1.11, the devs really shouldn't make people drool for the new version by letting some small group hype it up. Sure, veterans and such could test the mod like they have been doing, but they should at least have a password to their forum so us "normies" couldn't read it... Same goes with releasing "complete changelogs" which tell everything about the new version and emphazize the weaknesses of the current one. (Latest add: It's kind of like turning the "real thing" into a "demo". Now people wait for the "real thing", which is coming, and consider 1.04 as a "demo", a crippled version whose strategies become obsolete the minute 1.1 is out. This is bad for popularity.)
Anyways, I like playing 1.04 (thanks a lot for this great mod, devs!), but I still eagerly wait for 1.1. Damned hype! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
honestly, how can you all just cast it aside, Ns is awesome, and is so fun, thats like not eating just cause you know you will get better food in a month.
Instead of whining about noobies and exploiters try to teach the new. to be as leet as you. then when you enter a server not only willyou have good players the new will respect you. and when you comm you'll have players that not only listen but because you showed them how to play They will know how to play YOUR way so comming will be easy because they play like you. as to expliots and cheats most all servers have a forum and the admins will take care of it get screens and wonids as well as names.
also would like to say that our server is fully noobie friendly. our rule is teach the new players. and be friendly to all. respect them and they will respect you. (this maybe hard to do at times but what does yellin at someone over the mic help) more then likely it willmake them ignore you more or increase what they are doing to annoy you. normaly there is a admin on at all times to help you deal with the harmful gorge or the commander that is not doing anything. (( btw comm not giving you a hmg/jp/welder is not him doing nothing)) lol your comm has a plan. even if you don't like it you may not know if it don't work till you try "btw plans don't work even if they are the best and proven plans if you don't listen" same goes for (hey I'm just gorging to drop a node) think of this we are all about to be semi newbies again
Flayra Keep up the good work and know we appresiate what your doing even if some flame you hell if you could hear what my wife says about your mod.........................................your part of my family like the step brother she hates cause I am always fishing with him......
I have been playing 1.04 only to show ppl that you can actually do things out of the ordinary and win...
I like to go SC or MC first as gorge...sneak around as skulk/lerk...completely ignor Jets and HMGs as commander, relocate to strange places and such...
<!--QuoteBegin--{DEAD}Silent-Er@sEr+May 27 2003, 02:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ({DEAD}Silent-Er@sEr @ May 27 2003, 02:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hell if you could hear what my wife says about your mod......................................... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh, I know exactly what you mean...it's fair to say NS addiction is <i>not</i> good for a relationship.
AsranielJoin Date: 2002-06-03Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
Hey Flayra.. dont look at this so bad... i think i can speak in the name of the whole community when i say, we love you Flayra, realy Everytime i read the Beta Forum i see how genious you are, realy, every day again i see it.
Im mean, shure, 1.04 isnt perfect.. but its a great fun!! The infos of 1.1 made that i came back to NS. after some months 1.04 i stopped playing.. it was to repetive and i played it for 4 moths for 4 hours a day.. its normal that it gets repetive. But now with the 1.1, because i realy cannot wait i just go and play a round 1.04... thats my terapy :-)
<!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+May 27 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ May 27 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey Flayra.. dont look at this so bad... i think i can speak in the name of the whole community when i say, we love you Flayra, realy Everytime i read the Beta Forum i see how genious you are, realy, every day again i see it.
NS is the best game ever, nothing can change that <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I also think the NS community could do with a lot less of this -0.0% selfrespect attitude-.
Not a flame in any way but my honest to god opinion. And no disrespect intended towards the poster.
AsranielJoin Date: 2002-06-03Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
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well.. i hope its good that im swiss and i dont understand everything what you wrote... but i cant just say that what i wrote is absolutely true (for me at least) but i'll translate what you wrote to see what i did wrong...
edit: i think i see more or less the sense of your post.. i think you speak of the part where i say how genious Flay is.. well, for me its true, i came this morning and read the changes (minimap and so) and i was just happy and had to say to myself that Flay is a genious. And im a programmer, i know how good it is when people say how they like the work your doing... its the same in mapping, when no one would say that my map is good i would never have finished it (ou well.. the last sentece was horrible in gramatical meanings.. but you see what i mean)
<!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+May 27 2003, 04:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ May 27 2003, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well.. i hope its good that im swiss and i dont understand everything what you wrote... but i cant just say that what i wrote is absolutely true (for me at least) but i'll translate what you wrote to see what i did wrong...
edit: i think i see more or less the sense of your post.. i think you speak of the part where i say how genious Flay is.. well, for me its true, i came this morning and read the changes (minimap and so) and i was just happy and had to say to myself that Flay is a genious. And im a programmer, i know how good it is when people say how they like the work your doing... its the same in mapping, when no one would say that my map is good i would never have finished it (ou well.. the last sentece was horrible in gramatical meanings.. but you see what i mean) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah ok point taken. My problem though is with all those people that keep screaming things like 'Flay r teh best game developer ever' or 'Flay is my god' and immediately start flaming anybody that 'heaven forbid' actually offers critiscism.
AsranielJoin Date: 2002-06-03Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
hey, im not like that, but you have to admit that flayra is a realy good programmer.. i mean, until 1.04 he was alone in programming... and we shouldnt always say that NS is just bad.. (wich is simply not true, for me its the only game im playing right now)....
What I have begun to see (not just in this thread) is that whenever I or someone else posts *good* things about NS they get flamed and labelled a suckup.
<!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+May 27 2003, 01:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ May 27 2003, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Truth be told, and I say this in all honesty, 1.1 is shaping up to be a disapointment.
Reading through the beta discussion forum, it becomes clear that when teams of VETERAN CLANNERS cannot defeat an alien side then something is drastically wrong. I play on pubs almost exclusively, and whilst the pub servers I play on are filled with fairly veteran players, I shudder to think of how they're going to win in 1.1 as marines.
I do have faith in the devs, although that was shaken when I saw Flayra announcing a return of the "res for frags" system which I'd seen in ancient pre-1.0 screenshots, something which seems to be fundamentally against everything NS stands for. 1.1 though still has a fair way to go. As it stands though I hope some serious changes are implemented before it is unleased upon the world. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you crazy? If you actually bothered to read the entire beta forums, you would see the reason aliens are winning is because they have a couple of exploits and super strats to use... You can be rest assured these strats will be killed.
To be as bold and presumptious as you have just stated now is completely shortsighted, and is not worth a pinch of poop.
Now, about people leaving 1.04: What do you expect? Not only is this normal, for a human being to get tired of the old and fasinated with the new isn't anything strange at all.
In addition, look at how much more attention these forum boards have been getting! Obviously the NS community isn't dead, it's more or less taking a vacation untill v1.1 is released. Mark my words, once 1.1 comes out you will see a HUGE surge in popularity, I expect an increase to the point where it grows larger than the TFC community.
For those bored with 1.04: Big freaken deal, most of us are bored with it, just sit tight and wait nicely for v1.1. Stop making false predictions or complaining about 1.04, and wait and see.
To flay: We all love you, please keep up the good work, I love the live testing of v1.1. Don't listen to those who say crap like: "Live testing is a bad thing." That logic is horribly astray, the silent majority here definatly enjoys the up to date development status.
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at least i get money
Reading through the beta discussion forum, it becomes clear that when teams of VETERAN CLANNERS cannot defeat an alien side then something is drastically wrong. I play on pubs almost exclusively, and whilst the pub servers I play on are filled with fairly veteran players, I shudder to think of how they're going to win in 1.1 as marines.
I do have faith in the devs, although that was shaken when I saw Flayra announcing a return of the "res for frags" system which I'd seen in ancient pre-1.0 screenshots, something which seems to be fundamentally against everything NS stands for. 1.1 though still has a fair way to go. As it stands though I hope some serious changes are implemented before it is unleased upon the world.
ns 1.04 and ns v1.1 are the same in respect to aliens vs marines,just the thing that has changed is weapons, equipment,commander stuff etc. so it's the same game just alot of different stuff so v1.1 should be easy to play if ya played 1.04 alot.
Although I enjoy playing NS 1,04 quite abit it's starting to get boring sitting here waiting for 1.1 to come out while the devs n pts get to have their fun with it first.I mean this is what should have been done,NS v1.1 should have been released to the public first then let "The People" look for bugs,exploits and let the playtesters and devs and flay know about it then come out with a patch instead of doing everything at first lol have a nice day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And, well, I try to find newbie servers nowadays, so I don't have to endure being "pwned up teh 4$$" as an alien every single time I play.
If I'm playing on a vet server because I found some friends, I either tell all but one of them to go alien, so we can have a fair, long, interesting game. That, or I camp the marine entrance.
You can probably tell I'm sick of losing.
Actually, I don't think that this is such a bad thing.
As people have said here already, knowing alot about what is going to happen in the next version tends to kill interest in all but the most loyal 1.04 player.
E.g. The lerk seems to be under-going some radical changes. As a casual 1.04 player I don't really want to invest any more time learning techniques and strategies that will soon no longer be available. As a side point, this illustrates the danger of radical changes (removal of weapons etc) in that players may well feel that invested-time has been for nought.
This in combination with the influx of what seems to be a hoard of immature/disrespectul players has certainly got me to the point where I no longer play 1.04. I mention this here to reinforce the fact that this issue is not limited to a mere handful of players...I'd wager its fairly widespread amongst the community.
Another problem I think is that because 1.1 still appears to be in a state of flux people become edgy because of the unknown factor and because of perceived delays in release tiime.
I think NS has a bright future still. Ignorance of 1.1 details is probably not such a bad thing...although its too late now.
For Flay: take heart from the fact that people are hungry for 1.1 !! That should tell you something .
*edit* Btw all those suggesting they send it out to the ppl first WTH kind of crack you on. You know how much bandwidth that would take? Only reason some servers got to test betas before was because it was only a server side patch.
There are lots of people who have taken a vacation from 1.04. But it's just a vacation. There are too many wonderful things about the NS experiance to stay away from forever. They'll be back <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (NS addiction all the way)
right now my favorite is DOD v1.0 omg... sweeet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
1.04 is getting repetitive
And I dont think its negative to say," I have played 1.04 long enough and its time to move on"
NS isnt finished at all, IMO 1.04 was a teaser! And I have been teased enough.
Ive had so much fun, words cant even describe it, and Im happy there will be a new release of this game very soon that will probly even be more fun to play and maybe even for a longer time.
Compared to my favourite game GTA this is a lot longer...
doh <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I have never stopped playing, even if there is lots of noobs(?), llamas trying to spoil the game/fun for me (or more) they wont/will not ruin it for me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->. I still enjoy NS just as much when NS was released.
i think i played <b>NS</b> way too much.. no wonder i got bored with it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
but im not gonna leave <b>NS</b> ever <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
it has too much potential for more and better teamgame... which it will be... eventually <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I hope 1.1 will be here soon... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
cheers
mystiqq
What the hey.
I think most people are smart enough to understand the game is still being worked on and wouldnt freak out and leave if there were bugs. It dont gota be perfect. Sorry to be blunt but its just plain stupid to have the same old game being played until everyone is bored of it while there is another playable version being kept hidden away. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree.
The NS teams' strategie is pretty bad. There are business models on how to use hype and **** like that, they're just making it harder on themselves. G00seman and Cliffe had a much better feel for these thing, although I'll admit NS is MUCH more ambitious.
1. NS is still a small community.
2. The backbone of the community is usually the devs, vets and PTs.
3. All the devs, PTs and a lot of the vets are now testing NS1.1 effectively forming their own community and leaving the NS1.04 people behind.
This has pretty much starved the 1.04 community, so to speak. So right now, we 1.04 peps have the choice of either taking a break while the "stupid kids" play 1.04 or trying to rebuild the community.
Personally i'm one of those dumb people who can't find F4 and always try to join the losing team... So now i'm going to leave these boards for a few hours so i can get some NS-action.. cya
Same goes with releasing "complete changelogs" which tell everything about the new version and emphazize the weaknesses of the current one.
(Latest add: It's kind of like turning the "real thing" into a "demo". Now people wait for the "real thing", which is coming, and consider 1.04 as a "demo", a crippled version whose strategies become obsolete the minute 1.1 is out. This is bad for popularity.)
Anyways, I like playing 1.04 (thanks a lot for this great mod, devs!), but I still eagerly wait for 1.1. Damned hype! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
honestly, how can you all just cast it aside, Ns is awesome, and is so fun, thats like not eating just cause you know you will get better food in a month.
also would like to say that our server is fully noobie friendly. our rule is teach the new players. and be friendly to all. respect them and they will respect you. (this maybe hard to do at times but what does yellin at someone over the mic help) more then likely it willmake them ignore you more or increase what they are doing to annoy you. normaly there is a admin on at all times to help you deal with the harmful gorge or the commander that is not doing anything. (( btw comm not giving you a hmg/jp/welder is not him doing nothing)) lol your comm has a plan. even if you don't like it you may not know if it don't work till you try "btw plans don't work even if they are the best and proven plans if you don't listen" same goes for (hey I'm just gorging to drop a node) think of this we are all about to be semi newbies again
Flayra Keep up the good work and know we appresiate what your doing even if some flame you
hell if you could hear what my wife says about your mod.........................................your part of my family like the step brother she hates cause I am always fishing with him......
I like to go SC or MC first as gorge...sneak around as skulk/lerk...completely ignor Jets and HMGs as commander, relocate to strange places and such...
Heh, I know exactly what you mean...it's fair to say NS addiction is <i>not</i> good for a relationship.
i think i can speak in the name of the whole community when i say, we love you Flayra, realy
Everytime i read the Beta Forum i see how genious you are, realy, every day again i see it.
Im mean, shure, 1.04 isnt perfect.. but its a great fun!!
The infos of 1.1 made that i came back to NS. after some months 1.04 i stopped playing.. it was to repetive and i played it for 4 moths for 4 hours a day.. its normal that it gets repetive.
But now with the 1.1, because i realy cannot wait i just go and play a round 1.04... thats my terapy :-)
NS is the best game ever, nothing can change that
As I said before I find it unbelievable what I am seeing in this thread. IT IS A GOOD GAME!!!
*edit* some people just need to learn new strats and how to kick **** to keep it fun. I'm having a great time with it though.
i think i can speak in the name of the whole community when i say, we love you Flayra, realy
Everytime i read the Beta Forum i see how genious you are, realy, every day again i see it.
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I also think the NS community could do with a lot less of this -0.0% selfrespect attitude-.
Not a flame in any way but my honest to god opinion. And no disrespect intended towards the poster.
but i cant just say that what i wrote is absolutely true (for me at least) but i'll translate what you wrote to see what i did wrong...
edit: i think i see more or less the sense of your post.. i think you speak of the part where i say how genious Flay is.. well, for me its true, i came this morning and read the changes (minimap and so) and i was just happy and had to say to myself that Flay is a genious.
And im a programmer, i know how good it is when people say how they like the work your doing... its the same in mapping, when no one would say that my map is good i would never have finished it (ou well.. the last sentece was horrible in gramatical meanings.. but you see what i mean)
i used to play say 3 hours of NS a week... now i play that per day ... at least...
it is great and if you lose interest now you may never get it back..
but i cant just say that what i wrote is absolutely true (for me at least) but i'll translate what you wrote to see what i did wrong...
edit: i think i see more or less the sense of your post.. i think you speak of the part where i say how genious Flay is.. well, for me its true, i came this morning and read the changes (minimap and so) and i was just happy and had to say to myself that Flay is a genious.
And im a programmer, i know how good it is when people say how they like the work your doing... its the same in mapping, when no one would say that my map is good i would never have finished it (ou well.. the last sentece was horrible in gramatical meanings.. but you see what i mean) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah ok point taken. My problem though is with all those people that keep screaming things like 'Flay r teh best game developer ever' or 'Flay is my god' and immediately start flaming anybody that 'heaven forbid' actually offers critiscism.
The llamity continues.
Reading through the beta discussion forum, it becomes clear that when teams of VETERAN CLANNERS cannot defeat an alien side then something is drastically wrong. I play on pubs almost exclusively, and whilst the pub servers I play on are filled with fairly veteran players, I shudder to think of how they're going to win in 1.1 as marines.
I do have faith in the devs, although that was shaken when I saw Flayra announcing a return of the "res for frags" system which I'd seen in ancient pre-1.0 screenshots, something which seems to be fundamentally against everything NS stands for. 1.1 though still has a fair way to go. As it stands though I hope some serious changes are implemented before it is unleased upon the world. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you crazy? If you actually bothered to read the entire beta forums, you would see the reason aliens are winning is because they have a couple of exploits and super strats to use... You can be rest assured these strats will be killed.
To be as bold and presumptious as you have just stated now is completely shortsighted, and is not worth a pinch of poop.
Now, about people leaving 1.04: What do you expect? Not only is this normal, for a human being to get tired of the old and fasinated with the new isn't anything strange at all.
In addition, look at how much more attention these forum boards have been getting! Obviously the NS community isn't dead, it's more or less taking a vacation untill v1.1 is released. Mark my words, once 1.1 comes out you will see a HUGE surge in popularity, I expect an increase to the point where it grows larger than the TFC community.
For those bored with 1.04: Big freaken deal, most of us are bored with it, just sit tight and wait nicely for v1.1. Stop making false predictions or complaining about 1.04, and wait and see.
To flay: We all love you, please keep up the good work, I love the live testing of v1.1. Don't listen to those who say crap like: "Live testing is a bad thing." That logic is horribly astray, the silent majority here definatly enjoys the up to date development status.
Flay > all.