Have You Ever Used A Cheat?

Thansal · June 2003

see, if every one has the same unfair dvantages, it aint unfair <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

that could actualy be really fun... however I am NOT willing to risk DLing hacks any more (a good # of them are virii/trojans. even magot got hit by one of those <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>)

Macguyvok · June 2003

I didn't know there was a cheating community. And yes, alot of h4x are viri... hence why I try to "make my own" when ever it's not going to take 30 years of devel time... I figure if making a cheat for a game, no matter how kewl, is going to take longer to make than the orriginal game did, it's not worth it.

Jessen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 2 2003, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I didn't know there was a cheating community. And yes, alot of h4x are viri... hence why I try to "make my own" when ever it's not going to take 30 years of devel time... I figure if making a cheat for a game, no matter how kewl, is going to take longer to make than the orriginal game did, it's not worth it.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
In some ways yes. But in most ways no.
It does take a while but deffinatly not longer than the game took to make.

And most hacks aren't viruses trojans, infact very few are. They're are the odd ones. But meh, what cha gonna do?

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>But meh, what cha gonna do? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> Sit back, relax, and shoot that skulk that keeps chomping on my leg... my friend told me he's just trying to get to know me... but.. dude.. that hurts...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

There... much better..... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Infected_Marine · June 2003

I made some really crazy characters for diablo II, one of my favorites being a character that was level 10371 or so. 50 Hacked charms boosting my skill levels to 300 (when that maximum is usually 25!).

Jessen · June 2003

lol, He's getting to know you <i> on a more personal level </i> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Thats what cha get for being friends with a Skulk...

DoADrunkMonkey · June 2003

ok, i had a wall hack for NS for a while, it was pretty werid though cos the way it worked, it made everything look really bright like alien flash light, or u could turn it blue or red. but man it was really **** up when u go into commander mode. just frizzled my eyes.

so now i don`t have it and i play all fair now <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> honest.
but it was pretty funny when i had it and was playing dod, and would always say. i was confirmed and free of cheats. lol jesus that thing cheat detection was ****, hmm i might find it and test it with CD and see what it would do?

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>lol, He's getting to know you on a more personal level </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

ROTFLMAO! Man, that made me laugh really hard. Yeah... well.. I've got a good fade buddy of mine.. we pal around some... however I kinda have to run around on all 4's and spit on him ocassionally.. I'm not sure what that's about... but his nickname for me is fatty....kinda endearing, ain't it? *shrugs* Oh well... the things you do not to get eatten.. erm.. I mean for friendship....

Byeka · June 2003

Oh no.... I just had to come by this... unfortunatly yes I did use the leap exploit for a while and openly admitted it. Anyway... that ended months ago and I did apoligize. Other than that... I have never used any.

Ollj · June 2003

When sun blinds me I need to set gamma up to 3.0 and I still see nothing.

let me point at the thread and laught about expecting serious answeres.

Lightning_Blue · June 2003

I'll confess that I've used admin_godmode and admin_noclip at times <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Jessen · June 2003

<span style='color:red'>*NUKED.*</span>

But it technically is hacking, because yor hacking the client.dll and forcing yuour finctions into it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<span style='color:red'>*Please do not spread information that could be utilized to locate cheats.*</span>

Jeb_Radec · June 2003

No, never have, never will... I don't even use strat guides (for single player games that is)

Jessen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jessen @ Jun 2 2003, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <span style='color:red'>*NUKED.*</span>

But it technically is hacking, because yor hacking the client.dll and forcing yuour finctions into it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

<span style='color:red'>*Please do not spread information that could be utilized to locate cheats.*</span>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Why not?

Isn't it a good thing to help out?

Lazer · June 2003

I tried an ogc rage hack for cs once, worked, and good. Kinda weird but I thought it was pretty stupid so I only used it once or twice when I was bored. I left it on by accident when I played ns and the wallhacks were working, but too weird. I didn't even join a team before i deleted the thing.

Moral: Don't hack it's just stupid.

Jessen · June 2003

Personally I hate wallhacks, takes away from the game too much.

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lazer @ Jun 2 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Moral: Don't hack it's just stupid. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Just say no to hack.

Jessen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 2 2003, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lazer @ Jun 2 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I tried an ogc rage hack for cs once, worked, and good. Kinda weird but I thought it was pretty stupid so I only used it once or twice when I was bored. I left it on by accident when I played ns and the wallhacks were working, but too weird. I didn't even join a team before i deleted the thing.

Moral: Don't hack it's just stupid. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Just say no to hack.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Hahaha,

Person 1: "Hey man you wanna go <i>Hack it up?</i>
Person 2: "No, thats okay, thanks anyway"

<i>"Talk to your kids about hacking, they'll listen"</i>

Talesin · June 2003

Not when 'helping out' harms others. Such as those who want to play the game normally, without worrying about if that Skulk was just really good, or if they had an aimbot/bite speed-up. Similar the other way, with Marines turning into death-turrets when wielding a speeded-up pistol.

The thread is asking about if you've ever used a cheat, not how to find a cheat. Which is the only reason I have not yet locked and/or outright deleted it. This space is very thin ice. Please step carefully.

On-topic again, yes, I've used cheats in the past. Primarily on platforms, with games that just got frustratingly hard... Punch Out being one of 'em, and a few of the rooms in DooM were another. Er.. and if you count Warp Whistling in SMB3. ^_^
I however cannot condone cheating in any multiplayer game.
If you're cheating in SP the only person you're taking fun away from is yourself, not having to develop the skill and get the achievement of being able to get past a portion on your own. Multiplayer, you end up taking advantage of those who want to play the game as it was intended, so you can feel as if you're somehow 'better', or the drive to 'win' is just so strong that you either don't have the skill, or can't deal with a level playing field.
Personally I have just as much fun losing as winning, so long as I don't pop in less than a half-second to an aimbotting speed-pistolier every time I poke my head out a door, vent, or even Hive.

The fun is in the midgame, in all things. The actual struggle, not the win or the loss. If people want to just 'win', I honestly don't see why they don't just go out and stomp on puppies' heads.

Jessen · June 2003

Very good point. Thats whats good about NS, Its fun if ya have the patience to play as a team, I REALLY Wanna play NS right now, but Mine keeps crashing....

voogru · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jessen @ Jun 2 2003, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Pretty Impressive is right.

One of the first OpenGL Hacks was the XQZ, which was amzing. It hooked the OpenGL32.dll, and moitored its functions while HL was using it, and aimed at the data it got coming in. Man if the good cheat coders used their skills for 'good' then we would have soom neat things out there <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I really wish the client hooking wasnt abused to make hacks, We could have a crapload of neat toys. I made a few toys (non hacks of course) that I really wish I could use in NS.

And yes, I have used hacks before <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>. AND NOW I MAKE HACKS HAHAHAH (server-side hacks <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>, everything is of course non-cheating. I referring to mods as being "hacks" because thats what they are. Metamod is a "hack" much like OGC, Only it does the server-side not client-side)

P-Khan · June 2003

Never for two reasons:

1 - Spoils the fun in multiplayer, on-line games.

2 - Don't know any, probably cause I never looked for any or never even tried once

Jessen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (P-Khan @ Jun 2 2003, 10:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never for two reasons:

1 - Spoils the fun in multiplayer, on-line games.

2 - Don't know any, probably cause I never looked for any or never even tried once  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
1 - It does and it doesn't. It's kind of a "<i>new fun</i>" if you will

UnderDOG · June 2003

the probelm with diablo one was that everything was stored client side, and could be freely veiwed/edited, this was quickly fixed in future games

Jessen · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Jun 2 2003, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the probelm with diablo one was that everything was stored client side, and could be freely veiwed/edited, this was quickly fixed in future games  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
They way everything is done Online is called teh Net Code, and yes, it was horrible

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The fun is in the midgame, in all things. The actual struggle, not the win or the loss. If people want to just 'win', I honestly don't see why they don't just go out and stomp on puppies' heads. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Hear hear! I agree 10000.1%!

I_of_The_Everlasting · June 2003

I don't cheat, never will I, or never have I. My philosophy is that people who cheat on MP games could be compared on a lower scale to those that rape little children <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>. It's the feeling of dominance over the helpless both parties are seeking

Fieari · June 2003

Only in single player.

Speaking of which, everyone knows iddqp... but real DooM cheaters were also well aquianted with idkfa, and the legendary idspispopd... that is, "ID Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Peices of Putrid Debris"

I was so dissapointed when DooMII came out and dumbed it down it idclip. Stupid, even if it was easier to type.

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Speaking of which, everyone knows iddqp... but real DooM cheaters were also well aquianted with idkfa, and the legendary idspispopd... that is, "ID Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Peices of Putrid Debris"</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Actually.. not until last year did I hear of iddqd.... I always used idkfa.... lolz

kavasa · June 2003

Hay Jessen.
Thanks for writing a client that makes it easy to ban people with a screenshot.
I've never used an aimbot, wallhack, or any other cheat.

I think it's puerile and ridiculous, and I can't even understand the appeal. If the aimbot got the kill for you, what's the flippin' point?

What's wrong with stomping on puppies' heads, though?

edit: teh tpyo

<span style='color:red'>*Edit: Nuked link. Again, please do not provide information (which that SS contained) which could lead to the propogation of cheats.*</span>

Have You Ever Used A Cheat?

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