Its Me Again

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">with another room for critisizing</div> behind the bars is a small electrical generator powering the surrounding area
other than that its just a hallway corner

Gimpy_Doodly_Doo · June 2003

I see nothing to critasize except for the 90 degree angles i have Orthogonalphobia (Fear of Right Angles) j/k but u get my point.

ChromeAngel · June 2003

I'd like to seem some door frame added to the far side of the floor hatch (and prehaps a broken button to open it from this side?). The mix of flooring and trim textures looks odd, try using the same ones throughout. Why is their non-slip flooring above the players head? (a nice chunky girder texture might look good there)

Other than that it's a nice looking area <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

oOTOo · June 2003

Personaly, i only can see darkness and three ligthed areas..

fo_sheezy_my_neezy · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (oOTOo @ Jun 6 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Personaly, i only can see darkness and three ligthed areas..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
adjust the gamma on your monitor

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

updates <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
a hallway with pipes behind the grating on the left

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

looking down the stairs into the hallway from the room in the first pic

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

updated room, note the ladder, button, and a bit of trim

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

looking up into that dark area above the cargo door on the floor

Confused · June 2003

i think it would look better with the red light coming in a an angle to add a little more ranomd ness to it but hey thats me

fo_sheezy_my_neezy · June 2003

is there a purpose for the ladder? Are there any buildable spots up there, or any reason at all to have the ladder, or is it just trim? I'm just wondering.

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

actually in that dark area im gonna make it a bit brighter and have a door in there, which eventually leads to the marine spawn, the ladder is there to get up there, probably some kind of maintenance room. also i have the red light at that angle specifically so that it shines right onto the button at the top of the ladder

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

res node

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

big door leading to a hive, not as dark ingame

Obliterater · June 2003

I really like the red light coming out of the partialy opened door in the first pic. The rest look very nice to. I very much like the entire feel of the map. However the hallways need a little something to break up the walls, like pipes or computers or some metal post things holding up the ceiling.

moultano · June 2003

Are these shots gamma corrected?/ are you using any env_gamma? At the moment the whole thing looks a bit too grey. Play around with it bit. I just started using the technique in the mapping guidelines that it lists as what Ekaj does, and it has incredibly improved the lighting on my map. Basically, use texture lights with brightness in the 5000 to 8000 range, compile with gamma at .9 or so, and use a large amount of env_gamma. It gives it tons of contrast and really makes the whole thing glow.

NerdIII · June 2003

.9 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> isnt that only 90% brightness? Or do you mean 1.9? Some tall guy said the last pic is brighter in-game so maybe he used env_gamma. I tried it in Corel Photopaint and made the pic 100% more intense... actually you can see something now *g*. It even looks quite good.

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

actually its all brighter ingame, its just all photos i take appear darker in the pics
and im working on adding details to the walls as we speak

moultano · June 2003

no, I actually meant .9 gamma. You make the lights really bright in the rad file, but you use the gamma of .9 to get the shadows really dark. Then you use env_ gamma to get the lights bright again.

Post some gamma corrected shots. Its hard to judge anything if things look different in game.

BTW: I didn't know anyone else used CorelPhotopaint <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

RR_Co-N · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obliterater @ Jun 6 2003, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I really like the red light coming out of the partialy opened door in the first pic. The rest look very nice to. I very much like the entire feel of the map. However the hallways need a little something to break up the walls, like pipes or computers or some metal post things holding up the ceiling. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
i was about to say the same thing.

i really really like the glowy red light comming from the partially opened door on the floor.
But right now its an entity right? the red stripe on the wall doesnt look very good to me. Use texture lighting in there. I think it'll look better that way.

nice clean mapping.

Windelkron · June 2003

mmm, nice, maybe some electrical arcs there would make it cool!

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

hows this for gamma?
note that ive added 2 texture lights beneath the door on the floor to make 2 red rays coming out, u can see the effect if your not colour blind.

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

another

Nay · June 2003

m8, its looking alot better from your previous shots, just keep working into it, adding detail, ( computers, lights, pipes etc) and it will come out to be looking really nice, also try a few different textures on walls to see which works best look in my latest thread

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=34324&st=0#entry457168' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...t=0#entry457168</a>

I`m basically showing how working into something can really make a strong difference

hope to see more soon

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

ya, more detail is gonna come in once i have all the basic stuff done

Nay · June 2003

nice map tho m8, looks like it might go far

oOTOo · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jun 6 2003, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Are these shots gamma corrected?/ are you using any env_gamma? At the moment the whole thing looks a bit too grey. Play around with it bit. I just started using the technique in the mapping guidelines that it lists as what Ekaj does, and it has incredibly improved the lighting on my map. Basically, use texture lights with brightness in the 5000 to 8000 range, compile with gamma at .9 or so, and use a large amount of env_gamma. It gives it tons of contrast and really makes the whole thing glow.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Sorry all if i disturb the thread, but .. moultano i don't understand what you mean here. Where does the first 0.9 gamma you speak about take place : are you talking about ns env_gamma or about a special order in your compile tool (gui, batch compiler or hammer) ? Your process involves twice a gamma correction but i don't understand where stands the first one.

Kage · June 2003

-gamma is a compile parameter for the rad portion of the compile. Basically, this technique has you put in incredibly bright lights, then darken the map with the compile to get shadows, and use env_gamma to brighten it again but gain a lot of contrast in the process.

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

ya, thats what i did, except im using 1.2 in the env_gamma and 0.9 in the compiler, it makes it look exactly how i wanted it to

NerdIII · June 2003

I always knew these compiler options are good for something. Now you gave me a clue what for.
btw... has anybody ever played around with high detail lightmaps, say twice as accurate? How does it look?
(I know, if you use point lights you will simply have smaller stair effects, but with texture lights this might look cool (?))

Some_tall_guy1 · June 2003

update!!! this is a hive room, it needs detail to be added, so input is welcomed, and is rewarded with a digital cookie

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