G11 Assualt Rifle

Darxide21 · June 2003

Browsing though gun pics of something just to practice on for making a model, because it is new to me. I started making a g11 just for kicks. But I thought it would also fit into NS nicely (cuz its not to realistic or CSish, and pretty sure it has a 50rnd mag) .
So I'm starting a little project on it if anyone wants to help me out, I already have the base model done, and I think I plan to skin it, I might be needing help with boning it, (no pun intended <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> becuase I'm fairly new to modeling. But if not, its no big deal, just wanted something to try. Heres some eye candy.

Darxide21 · June 2003

It may look like i just made one box or so, but I think its ok. Like I said, I'm really knew and I dont know if its good or bad?

ayumbre · June 2003

very nice u got a model for hmg ?

leifbj · June 2003

So far it's looking nice. Suggestions:

For the front, add some indents as in the picture.
Make the back more "octogonal" like the picture shows.
Add the little "clip that is attached (would look cool <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> )

What's the poly count?

Darxide21 · June 2003

I orignaly made the one above as a LMG, I dont have any ideas on what could be done to it to make it a HMG?

sheena_yanai · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darxide21 @ Jun 9 2003, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Browsing though gun pics of something just to practice on for making a model, because it is new to me. I started making a g11 just for kicks. But I thought it would also fit into NS nicely (cuz its not to realistic or CSish, and pretty sure it has a 50rnd mag) .
So I'm starting a little project on it if anyone wants to help me out, I already have the base model done, and I think I plan to skin it, I might be needing help with boning it, (no pun intended <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> becuase I'm fairly new to modeling. But if not, its no big deal, just wanted something to try. Heres some eye candy. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
in fact the g11 holds 150 rounds.. (50 per magazine,but against jamming issues they are loadet with 45 rounds) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> right over the barrel you can see on the left,and on the right the 2 other magazines.in the middle is the loadet magazine,when it gets empty,pull it out to the front,and load a new one from the 2 replacement magazines..
the magazines are so long,its more handy to carry them on the gun..

Darxide21 · June 2003

lol damn, you know too much. I didnt even know that those where clips, I thought they were guides. jeeze and I thought I was a gun buff. I'd put the clip on it, but I'm still a little shaky on that. And I adjusted the look of the back of the stock to make it more octogonal.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> here u can see the clip more clearly..

sheena_yanai · June 2003

One legend meets another: The late Eugene Stoner, designer of several highly successful American small arms systems, including the M16 series, meets the G11 at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>

sheena_yanai · June 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>

sheena_yanai · June 2003

<a href='http://www.hkpro.com/video/g11-2-128.mpg' target='_blank'>g11 video full auto</a>

<a href='http://www.hkpro.com/video/g11-3-128.mpg' target='_blank'>3 round burst slowmo</a>

<a href='http://www.hkpro.com/video/g11-1-128.mpg' target='_blank'>another very nice video (56k warning... ots a long one)u see the reloading,and the function in that video</a>

Burncycle · June 2003

G-11 sure ain't tiny <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

The model is not bad, but it could use a little work. There are G-11's out there that are excellently modelled; you might want to download one and open it up, to look at how they built it and where you want to add more detail.

Darxide21 · June 2003

I'm not the best at modeling yet, for anyone who wants to help me, I'll send the file
but now, I'm going to bed, night!

ps, I'll redo the front and clips tomorrow

xexe · June 2003

sheena yanai people have said it a million time and i will say it again u are god or goddess of ref,concept and audio visual refrences and can i ask where u get all ur refrences

BTW-This model could be a good LMG as well

sheena_yanai · June 2003

The LMG11
'Light Machine Gun'
Cal. 4.73 x 33 Caseless

<img src='http://www.hkpro.com/image/g11lmg1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

As a natural follow on to the G11 caseless rifle project came the LMG11 or Light Machine Gun. This concept, entirely consistent with the 'weapon system' approach that HK has employed for many years, was conceptualized for greater fire support for troops already fielding the G11 rifle on the battlefield. As with all of the G11 weapons, the rifle, LMG and G11PDW, the project is now dead. Nevertheless, the G11 project remains one of the most ambitious and far reaching attempts by engineers to take small arms design far into the future. I cannot think of any group that would be up to the task more than the engineers at Heckler & Koch.

GWAR · June 2003

Not the prettiest of guns.

The clip is alot like the FN-P90, must be a real pain to reload. On the plus side a gun with a huge clip like that wont have to reload too often <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Darxide21 · June 2003

here is a little update, <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> Made the back more octogonal, and the front has more depth and less blockyness to it

Chubbieboi · June 2003

can i ask how the firing mechanism works with caseless rounds its been bothering me how <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Darxide21 · June 2003

You can see on the one post sheen put up. But there is a explosive block that encases about the bullet.

CrouchingHamster · June 2003

A bit more info on the G11 for anyone who's interested.

<a href='http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm' target='_blank'>http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm</a>

sheena_yanai · June 2003

how the caseless g11 works ?oh.. thats easy..
lets start with the caseless amunition,on this pic you can see the system invented by dynamite nobel.
the projectile is directly embedet into the compressed propelant(the brown stuff,a special "HIT" propellant.HIT stands for "high temperature ignition"it solves one of the many problems that would be obvious with caseless ammunition, that of cookoff, where the temperature of the chamber is hot enough to fire the round alone. ). the propelant got a cartridge lacquer (base L71, coating L67/2 ,lubricant PTFE-spray) and a protective cap(Hope gm 5050) necessary for weather and waterproofing. the primer and booster gettin complete burned when fired ...

sheena_yanai · June 2003

as you can see on this pic, the rounds feed from the magazine pointing straight down, and are then turned 90 degrees for firing. the G11 only has the fast cyclic rate (2000 rounds per minute) for three round burst. On sustained full automatic, the cyclic rate reverted to a very slow 460 rounds per minute.otherwise the recoil would kick you out of your boots

sheena_yanai · June 2003

On burst fire the G11 was able to have three rounds out of the gun in about 60 milliseconds, compared to 130 milliseconds between only the first and second shots on full automatic. This meant that before the recoil would cause the rounds to fly off target, (due to the mechanics of recoil on the relationship between the rifle and shoulder of the firer), the three round burst would be on its way, resulting in rather impressive hit probability at even 100m. With any other conventional automatic arm, this was impossible due to the physics involved.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

on this wonderfull photograph you can see the heart of the system. the G11 breech cylinder with chamber, removed for photograph.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

the same build together. there u can see the chamber cylinder again.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

internals...

sheena_yanai · June 2003

on this pic you can clearly see the loading mechanism.
when you want to load the first round into the cylinder ,you have to flip the loading handle up (marked with the blue arrow) and twist it 180 degrees, to wind up the firing mechanism for the first shot,and bring the ammo in firing position.. unloading works similar.twist the "key" in vertical position,and press the button right under the occular of the scope,to eject the round through the hole on the underside of the weapon

Darxide21 · June 2003

After reading all the posts, I really am startign to like this gun in real life, no matter how ugly it is...
Update... Skinning is hard... and anyone wanna help? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Ps: That thing looks fun to field strip. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

sheena_yanai · June 2003

Field stripping and maintenance times for the g11 system was markedly less than the other candidates in the hands of the test personnel. this is due both to the fact that the unique caseless propellent leaves almost no fouling behind after firing, and that only five parts are removed by the operator during field stripping (compared to ten with the M16 rifle)

RotA_Plague · June 2003

One of my favorite parts of the G11, other then the delayed recoil on burst, is that if a bullet doesn't fire it will get arid of it instead of jamming the gun. The gun has been my favorite for quiet a while due to all of its nice features. Though the G11 does have one somewhat large problem, Armor piercing isn't anywhere near as good as most rifles due to its smaller ammunition. And I believe it wasn't mentioned yet that the weapon can have more ammo and is lighter then most guns out there including the M16, AK47, and the G3A3

G11 Assualt Rifle

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