Mapping project big al

Willow · July 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">A project for all mappers,texturers, etc</div>[edit] Forum moderators, plz make this post sticky. [/edit]

A time ago i thought about a big project involving all the main mappers and everyone who wants to join, well i finally started to make a website for it and a name,
i was watching tv and there was a show one with some bloke called Big Al, so i thought: "Ey, thats a name for the project!"

The website is based
<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/empire/willowsmapz/" target="_blank">here</a>
for now because i'm going to change it to www.bigal-mapping.tk

More info you can read on the site (plz, do&#33<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

The goal of this project is to make a mapper community story-campaign which should become an official campaign when its finshed.

We need mappers, texture artists, story writers, and alot more.
Beginning mappers are encouraged to join and all other NS mappers too.

Plz lads, join in on this and it will be great.

<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/empire/willowsmapz/" target="_blank">BIG AL's - a NS mapping project</a>

P.S. the site could need a fresh look, so if there is anyone who could make a new one plz email/pm me me.

CyonPro · July 2002

Did you actually take the time to ask all the "big" mappers about this? I'm sure most of them would love to participate, but some could be working on previously planned projects, and it is always good to ask before jumping into something.

Willow · July 2002

Well thats why this post is here, to tell about "Big Al".
and ask u all to join

CyonPro · July 2002

Do you have a storyline in mind yet? Or will that be up to the writers that join the project?

Willow · July 2002

Well it´s up to the writers (i´ll write part of the story [or the whole thing]), but we need ppl.
This can be a great event but we need ppl to join in, as i put in the site there is no deadline, so mappers can take (virtually) all the time that they need.

Mouse · July 2002

umm, have you asked flayra for permisson to do this?
and if so, I don't think that all the entites nesessary for a decent single player episode are working (i could be wrong).

but if everything is ok, I see no reason why this shouldn't happen <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Supremacy · July 2002

I think its an ok idea, just as Mouse said ask Flayra for permission first. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'>

HanzGruber · July 2002

I think it's a noble effort but you should have really asked everyone first... I can't speak for other people, but I'm busy as hell as it is with my current maps...

best of luck to you with this though...

nrby · July 2002

too many cooks.

HanzGruber · July 2002

too many cooks? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Willow · July 2002

Well... if i see flayra on IRC, i'll ask him. But i will also send an email to him about Big Al.

I think that he will aproof of Big Al,
But We Still Need Ppl To Join.

And no lame excuses as "I already have 12 projects", or "Ow, i can't do that! Thats too hard!"

Remember ppl, we have ALL the time.
<a href="http://www.bigal-mapping.com" target="_blank">Join Big Al</a>

HanzGruber · July 2002

lol...you are presuming quite a bit there... I for one don't have <i>"ALL the time"</i>... I do live a semi-decent life as well as doing NS stuff... and besides my excuse was <i>"I already have 4 projects"</i> not <i>"12"</i>.

You must be confusing the NS mappers around here for:
1 - being superman
2 - being stupid enough to succumb to implied insults ( <i>"ow, I can't do that! that's too hard!"</i>)
3 - No offence intended here, but no-one really knows who you are willow. If Chrome or Ken were to suggest this, their credibility alone would get people interested.

CyonPro · July 2002

Wait a sec, is this supposed to be some kind of singleplayer episode? I was under the impression that i was just going to be a series of MP maps with some kind of interwoven storyline.

I agree with narby on his "too many cooks" comment. It may be difficult, but I won't say impossible, to maintain a constant sense of style or feeling throughout all the maps when you have so many mappers working to make one cohesive product. Most of us are not professional mappers who have had experience working with a game development house. Plus, I know that when it comes to mapping, I much prefer to design my maps solo.

If you seriously think that we have all the time in the world, and that having another project, or a LIFE, isn't enough reason not to be able to work on this, then you might want to reconsider the way you approach this.

Gwahir · July 2002

I'm only just teaching myself mapping, I tried it for a bit and had some difficulties, then school took priority, etc. could someone tell me how to manipulate textures?

Black_Wolf · July 2002

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CyonPro · July 2002

Suddenly, repitition.

Killtoy · July 2002

Too many cooks.

Plaguebearer · July 2002

Suddenly, repitition.

Flayra · July 2002

While I encourage you to do something like this, it sounds quite challenging. NS isn't really set-up for SP yet and there may be problems that you run into. The real problem here is that we won't have time to fix them, because NS is a MP only game for the forseeable future.

As far as making it official, there's a pretty small chance of doing this. We have our official world and environment, and if it's going to be official, we're probably going to want to create it!

Don't let me rain on your parade though. If you end up creating something really incredible, it's theoretically possible that we would make it official. Just make sure you're going to be totally happy with it if it's unofficial.

FamousWounds · July 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Killtoy @ July 03 2002,10:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Too many cooks.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They spoil the broth don't you know

Plaguebearer · July 2002

I'm rather sure he wasn't talking about some kind of SP block, but rather a set of regular ole MP NS maps, that just happened to have a storyline interwoven into them.

CyonPro · July 2002

Suddenly, revelation.

<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Plaguebearer · July 2002

Too many cooks?

CyonPro · July 2002

Make Jack a dull boy.

(Wait a minute....)

Willow · July 2002

1. Plague has it all right
2. No i´m not a ### MF (some one send me an email about that, i´m not gonna say who)
3. U have it all wrong (most of the ppl), i don´t know how u get the idea that it will be SP or a mod on its own. I never said that, and it is not on the server.
4. i posted the story (an open story) on the page (if ANY one is interested)
5. I get the idea that this is useless, so if anyone is still interested plz email/pm/post here. Else i think i´m gonna pull the plug on Al, i wanted to change the name to Alien Incursion but i really think that this is useless.

I only want to say that i put 1 week of work in this (planning, making it player friendly, etc. etc.)

Flayra · July 2002

I'm not sure about the repeating of the "too many cooks" business, but I think it was rather rude.

CyonPro · July 2002

Truth.

Although I didn't participate, I probably did something to encourage it. I apologize.

EDIT: However, I get the feeling (after Willow's last message, stating that the project would continue via other methods) that this post won't have much purpose for very long.

Mods?

Mouse · July 2002

i was probably the one who got everyone thinking that you were planning a single player episode, it was just that when i read "story-campaign" i intially thought you meant single player.

but since it's actually a multi-player map pack with a storyline woven in that somehow connects all the maps up. i see no reason why this should not happen

i apologize for any confusion that i caused <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

gutterclutch · July 2002

The too many cooks deal aside, this project might have garnered the support it required if a little more planning had gone into it. Perhaps the inquiries with Flayra and a thread to see how many mappers were interested should have preceded the setting up of the whole thing. That way you wouldn't have wasted a week, was it? on something that people were unwilling to join. Also, it could have been a problem with the way you presented your project. Frankly, saying "no lame excuses like I have projects, join big al" puts people off. It screams out "it's your duty to join my project". It screams out that personal projects are less important than people might feel them to be. A better way might have been to say "you all may be primarily dedicated to whatever you're working on, but I would be grateful if you could spare some time to contribute to this project".

A little more diplomacy, a little more planning, and people might have shown a little more interest in it.

Mapping project big al

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