Onos Hunter ( Gun Model )

ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
well this is my other model, a HMG " ONOS HUNTER " can some one will help me with this , to animate or skin...... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    the... polys.... *keels over*
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    uhhhh <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--><!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • cr3amcr3am Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7221Members
    look nice, but i would add a circular clip if it were my model
  • Visual_MirageVisual_Mirage Join Date: 2003-05-01 Member: 15973Members
    Nice looking model! How many polies is that bad boy?
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ayumbre+Jun 18 2003, 07:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ayumbre @ Jun 18 2003, 07:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOl heres the PIC <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not bad. But I'd cut off the thingy under the barrel and use a chain-magazine instead of this one <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    instead of a clip i suggest a belt of ammo, gun in 1 hand belt hanging over the other <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ScrpioNScrpioN Join Date: 2003-06-09 Member: 17171Members
    i'd make it a bullpup style MG that would kick ****
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    a very little modification of the original ONOS HUNTER !!!!!!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TalShiarTalShiar Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7953Members
    looks... interesting. Though i dont quite understand the how the action itself would work. Additionally since ingame you will never view the front id cut off the interior of the barrel and the front piece as well. The barrels are also could have the count lowered, 10 is usually the highest i ever go on number of faces on a cylander. you could also get rid of the depressions in the magazine. Id suggest you work more on adding features to the gun instead of frivolous details, put a selector switch and safety in there, add a receiver and charging handle - perhaps a more interesting looking scope.
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    tips for reducing polies, you REALLY dont need the grooves in the ammo clip, thats what the skin is for!
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    not bad now, but as already said I'd use a chain-mag. for this gun. a regular magazin is just "not enough" for a gun like this <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited June 2003
    Also reduce the sides on your barrel. 8 is fine, 10-12 is max if you have plenty of polys left over; any more and you really can't tell the difference that much.

    Same with the grip under the barrels. Those grooves can be skinned on

    And with all the polys you saved, you can make the pistol grip look less puny <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    not a bad concept though
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    what about this <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Unreal_PantherUnreal_Panther Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17083Members
    me like <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> and you reload the side pannel then i guess..... otherwise it wouldnt have bullets <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Thats awesome! ...now only if I knw how to animate...
  • CaptainPanakaCaptainPanaka Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4718Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--ayumbre+Jun 19 2003, 05:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ayumbre @ Jun 19 2003, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->what about this <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->? <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->? <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mhm I don't like the grip on top of the gun and the drum mag.... but the rest is good. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'd make the top of the gun like in the old version. for the "ammo-feed" I'd use an ammo box or an ammo chain for this weapon...

    ammo chain:

    <img src='http://www.cswayne.com/boothby/m60.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    another: <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <img src='http://www.ranger25.com/Images/m60.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    ammo box:

    <img src='http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/m249-1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    another: <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <img src='http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249-short-saw.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited June 2003
    dood,theres a chain in that drum <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    carryng the chain around like in your pics can be a real pain.. you get dirt into the chainlinks(in combination with the oil you use to make the chainlinks more slipy it gets a very nasty slimey stuff).. you should support the chain while firing(thats another reason for 2 men on a machinegun).. it jams... bah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ive experienced that a mg 42 with a selfmade drummagazine and a support thoung for the chain jams more often than feeding the chain with "hand"

    and btw.. miniguns cant feeding chainlinked ammon .they using a linkless system.without transfer rails(feed chute) and a ammo drum or box you have to feed every round per hand..lol

    the placement of the drummagazine in your pic isnt very accurate,bacause the ammo in the drum is in a endless screw shaped chamber.the ammo is stacked with the tip to the outside of the drum,this way you get much more ammo inside. a coupling to the minigun motor enables the transfer of the ammo from the drum to the gun... the ejected cases goin through the orange transferrail (feedback chute) back into the opposite side of ammodrum..

    edit: your gun would not spin without a motor ... a minigun isnt self propelling,bigger systems usin 3hp electro motors, or a pneumatic turbine (aww.. i love this sound)
  • EvilDeurknopEvilDeurknop Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17238Members
    i like the overal defign, but i was wondering, how is the gun held, is it set against the shoulder? maybe it would be better to make it so that the pistol grip and another handle are ontop of the gun and it is held at hip height... just a suggestion though
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited June 2003
    its similar to the minigun used in the movie predator,but there was the trigger on the upper side..

    what you have not seen in the movie was the long powercable that was connected to 2 truck batteries (up to 4 batteries),and the ammo fed chute that goes down to the ammo box...(in the other scenes he got a ammo backpack.. but the effective ammount of ammo would be to heavy)
    in the movie they reduced the firing speed,and they loadet for one scene where this dood was firing in the trees every 10 rounds with live ammo,the rest was blank cartrige load...(in the other scenes they used only blank rounds) otherwise the recoil would kick you out of your boots <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    oh... and in real live this gun would not be in use by infantry.. the batteries and the ammo (you need lots of ammo..) would be to heavy,just inpractical.even the smallest version is just mounted on trucks and helicopters.
  • The_Real_QuasarThe_Real_Quasar Has the I.Q. of 12,000 P.E. Teachers Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9998Members
    Picky little sheena is at it again! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Stop poking holes and realise how cool it would be <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Smartgun anims?
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    you mean the terminator minigun
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    OMG sheena u got tons of gun pics !!!!!!!


    i think i gonna modify the damm onos hunter <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Azrael2709Azrael2709 Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16760Members
    I'm not too into guns but a clip like that would not be good on a maching gun you have there. I would suggest a box, or maybe if you're <i>really</i> good, you can make a belt of bullets that the marine wears that wraps around the model. O_o. That would be incredibly hard, but so very sweet. Very very nice model though. That's the type of gun I want when we assault their base in heavy armors. Good work.
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    well another modification of this " hmg "
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    edited June 2003
    Take some polys off the stock, both the grips, the scope, and the magazine and I'd consider using this in a game. The extra polys and tris I just noted are really unnecessary. You're probably <b>never</b> going to see the front of the scope, so why? You might never see the bottom of that second grip, and you <i>shouldn't</i> see the first grip with the trigger at all (unless it's WAY forward). The second grip's detail can be put in the skin, as can the magazine's detail. The barrels.... the extra polys don't seem necessary, but they do kind of look okay with those holes, even if with the extra polys. Might consider just getting rid of em and putting it in the skin.

    <b>EDIT: Speaking of the first model pic posted on this thread.</b>
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited June 2003
    that looks cool. i don't know what the thing under it is. a handle maybe?

    this'll do the HMG some justice as a high-rof model.

    another question, are these revolving barrels? if so, it would be really cool if they rotated by themselves while you were walking around. they need to accelerate a *little* bit before reaching full rd/min speed.

    overall, very cool looking gun.

    for everyone's info, the cliche' (using ' instead of accent) minigun is the General Electric Co. M134 (or 134a)

    -7.62x51mm NATO
    -0.8m length

    supporting someone's info that no infantryman could carry it alone, it weighs

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>26.8 kg </span>or <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>59.1lb </span>

    with its power supply. so, black guy in predator, put that thing down.

    -559mm barrels
    -4 grooves, rh
    -4000 round belts
    -cyclic rate of 6000 rds/min (you call it CYCLIC rate, not rate of fire, for a gun with a gatling-type design)

    just some totally useless info i felt like spewing.
  • EvilDeurknopEvilDeurknop Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17238Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1056122745.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    THAT'S the gun i'm talkin' about!!!!

    not suggesting you should copy that, just an id of what would seem a more logical way to hold it...


    (i have a replacement for para in cs with that model <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • ayumbreayumbre Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13406Members
    i think the last model will be the real onos hunter" ....... but the question of the million of dollars is " who can help me to animate and skin this gun "
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