Ready Room Exploit

BattleTech · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Going to be fixed in 1.1?</div> I've been looking through the changelog for 1.1 and I haven't seen any fixes for the notorious, everyone camp in marine/alien box, then somebody joins the opposite team and everyone sitting in the box get's put on the marine/alien team so the teams go 4v4 to 12v5.

noelephant · June 2003

I think that the aliens will be more interesting to play in the next version. Hopefully you will see making the teams a bit more even.

BattleTech · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (noelephant @ Jun 23 2003, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think that the aliens will be more interesting to play in the next version. Hopefully you will see making the teams a bit more even.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I asked if the exploit was going to be fixed because not everyone is going to even the teams fairly. Even if the alien's will be "more fun".

criticaI · June 2003

Its not an exploit, its a problem with sportsmanship & manners. Flayra can't code other people's manners sorry.

Venmoch · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Jun 23 2003, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Flayra can't code other people's manners sorry.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Now that would be cool

admin_control: Player Polite 1

Dr_Strange · June 2003

yah. I hate team stackers. Two of the admins go on one team so everyone else has to rush to their team. Lame.

Turkey2 · June 2003

uhh usually on every server I've played at it goes to 4v5 and those people are still sitting there, and that's every single server I've seen with many people camping those doorways.

dr_d · June 2003

This "exploit" was fixed in 1.03 nubcaek, where you been?

Pege · June 2003

What about blocking readyroom entrances? I've seen some people block the door leading from readyroom start in ns_hera to prevent players from getting to either team... I don't know if you could get past them with F4ing again, didn't test. Or you could have just 2 lamers blocking entrance to marines when aliens are full in just about every maps' readyroom.

Going commander or gorge to mess up the game is a lot easier, but readyroom blocking is annoying none the less...

dr_d · June 2003

you guys do know there is a console command to join teams right.....

falloutx2 · June 2003

I believe these are the console binds.
jointeamone = marines
jointeamtwo = aliens
autoassign = random team

hunter_hunted · June 2003

The problem outlined in the original post about teams going from 5v4 to 12v5 or somthing other than 6v5 is still around... happened the other day when i went aliens and it allowed four people to go marines at the same time... similar to people going random at the same time and ending up on the same team (basically ignores team balance if people join at the exact same time) Although it's not that common, it can still happen

FoxFlame · June 2003

This is why we should all run servers with multiple whichbots on the alien side so everyone that wants to can join marines, cuz everyone just wants to shoot stuff anyway. Besides, it's more fun to kill/be killed by computers. They don't go back to the ready room and say **** like, "OMG SO PWNED" like it was a challenge when you were just playing on a team of noobs who wanted to be marine.

dr_d · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hunter_hunted @ Jun 23 2003, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The problem outlined in the original post about teams going from 5v4 to 12v5 or somthing other than 6v5 is still around... happened the other day when i went aliens and it allowed four people to go marines at the same time... similar to people going random at the same time and ending up on the same team (basically ignores team balance if people join at the exact same time) Although it's not that common, it can still happen  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
This is what we call a server option where the admin makes a conscious choice to turn off auto team balance, it isn't an exploit.

Ahnteis · June 2003

It's a timing problem. (Concurrency issues)

Basically, one person joins a team and so the server says "there's a spot open".

Then the 4 people waiting in line all get the go-ahead to join the other team at the same time. So they do. No further checking is performed so uneven teams.

a_civilian · June 2003

I noticed something similar to this: The teams were even (2v2 I think). Me and another player both jumped into the random team portal at the same time, and it put us both on the same team (unbalancing the teams).

NeoMatrixj2 · June 2003

If a server op is that concerned about teams they could easily use ripent and edit the jointeam entrys to all do random and code an adminmod plugin to make jointeamone or jointeamtwo exec random. however I have yet to see this happen in 1.1 so maybe it was fixed. Maybe we should try it...

KI6 · June 2003

But then it defeats the entire purpose of the ready room. You might as well just jump into the random teams area.

Xzilen · June 2003

Yea, this doesn't seem to be a big problem if you have a nice vicious admin though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Church · June 2003

Usually when this happens the smaller team f4s. I took a screenshot on the EVIL server when suddenly it was like 12 marines vs 5 aliens. It was pretty funny actually because no one expected it.

Infected_Marine · June 2003

An admin pluggin that automatically made every one get auto assigned would be great. No more RR idling.

Ape · June 2003

Yeah, stacking sh!ts me off to no end, but there doesn't seem to be much you can do about it.

Ah well.

Sometimes I have great fun in the ready room. One time I was sitting in the RR rolling a smoke while this guy kept crapping on about random sh!t over voicecomm (yes Jatten, it was you) which was fairly humerous. Eventually I joined the game, but got bored (teams were stacked) and F4'd out. I came back into the RR to find this guy standing on the bar in front of an audience of like 4 or 5 people lined up in front of him, singing songs like greenday and other sh!t. Was bloody funny.

Vash7h3Stampede · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Jun 23 2003, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Flayra can't code other people's manners sorry.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
What? A limit to Flayra's almighty coding genius-like powers?!?!

NAH! Flayra can do anything. I bet hes hard at work on that flamethrower that supposedly can't be done on the HL engine to his liking.

j/k

we wubs Flayra

Ready Room Exploit

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