<!--QuoteBegin--Young Trotsky+Jul 2 2003, 02:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Young Trotsky @ Jul 2 2003, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol, that blood plugin kills my fps, and it looks really stupid when u fire spores at a marine and blood just pops out of him once a second <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Um, maybe their coughing blood?! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/jam544/kombat.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats awesome! If you made that, good job!
<!--QuoteBegin--StoatBringer+Jul 2 2003, 10:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoatBringer @ Jul 2 2003, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There used to be a game on the Amiga called (iirc) Alien Breed 3D. When you gibbed the bad guys recognisable internal organs flew about. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yay! Organs!
erm. it's nice that we can tell when the aliens bite the marines, but who else can't wait for the base rush and the blood stained walls/floor/ceiling of the marine start?
<!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 2 2003, 11:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 2 2003, 11:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flayra's emphasis that he made the change gladly and willingly must mean that someone is blackmailing him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It wasn't me! ... Nobody saw me! ... You can prove NOTHING!
Well, I must say I'm quite surprised... in a positive way. I would NOT like Blood just as a gory element to make NS more scary.. but I like some blood as Feedback of attacks.
Dave... I can wait. In fact, if that happens and there's no way to turn it off, I may have to stop playing NS. That would just be annoying. I mean, I like playing with the blood plugin (well, once I got used to it, which only took like, five minutes), but that's only because then as a skulk i could tell if I hit a marine with bite MUCH easier. This also makes it somewhat easier to root out hackers (I found one guy who was a straight vanilla marine, and the marines had no upgrades, but I distinctly saw the blood 8 times (oh, and he didn't die, that's jsut when he finaly killed me. Just because he was aparently invincible doesn't mean he had good aim). I told an admin, the admin attacked him jsut to make sure, and I suppose the admin decided I was right, because he was kick-banned very soon after.
Oh, and I don't know if this is actually a possible hack or if he just somehow managed to trick an admin into letting him be invincible (or turning on cheats for a moment or two to fix something and the kid using whatever cheat that is). I just know that somehow, he was.
As long as the 2.0 blood doesn't cover any part of our screen like th eplug-in does.... If you're looking down and get bit, blood will gush and cover up half your screen. Mighty annoying O_O
This is excellent, finally, some good hit recognition! This'll make skulking that much less frustrating. Good job Flayra, you made the right choice <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b><span style='color:red'>F A T A L I T Y</span></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src='http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1050849801.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
i cant wait for 2.0 blood, its going to make the scary envornment SOOO much more ..um..SCARIER <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> oh man i can just picture the blood stains on the walls when u walk into a room to find 2 marines dead >:D~<--- evil smily face
EDIT: by the way, i dont understand why people dont want Blood in Natural Selection, i mean it IS fake....
<!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jul 2 2003, 11:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 2 2003, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i mean it IS fake.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> or is it?
He also needs to make the bodies stay longer, for about fifteen minutes or ten minutes. A nice buildup would happen in a constant battle in one part of the map, and with my mp_decals at 30000 (The blood/bullets stay on for the whole map!) it would be total carnage...oh yes..
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/jam544/kombat.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> uh...heh heh, thats an onos t here buddy, and ur just a silly marine with a lmg... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/jam544/kombat.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> uh...heh heh, thats an onos t here buddy, and ur just a silly marine with a lmg... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> no LMG - SHOTGUN <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--StoatBringer+Jul 2 2003, 05:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoatBringer @ Jul 2 2003, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There used to be a game on the Amiga called (iirc) Alien Breed 3D. When you gibbed the bad guys recognisable internal organs flew about. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Alien Breed <b>pwnz</b>.
oh yeah, and...umm. Visual feedback is cool. Plus, you had to purchase a mature rated game to even be able to play NS, so what's up with the squeamishness coming out now? It's all good, baby. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
point taken about the hl rating.... However, aliens don't currently leave trails of blood, so I think it might unbalance the game somewhat if marines left 'trails' of blood. I also think that blood is a good idea, but needs to used sparingly only for tactical purposes. Bodies piling up and blood spattering all overing the walls is excessive, and I personally would not enjoy playing NS if that's what it came to... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
As it seams I wasn't the only one who didn't belive my eyes when i read the changelogg ... I hope that the blood don't cover your whole line of sight when you bite a marine as a skulk ...
[QUOTE=Savant]Maybe if it was a slightly darker shade that would be alright. I think the addition of it is fine, but the colour of it does seem a bit bright.[/quote]
[quote=archhaven]I love the addition of blood. My only complaint is that it's too bright and unrealistic.[/quote]
uhh guys... .turn down your gamma u nubs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> j/k
Edit: WTH quotes wont work :O maybe cause its 4:10 in the morning and i cant figure out why...o well u get teh picture
<!--QuoteBegin--Luxverum+Jul 3 2003, 03:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Luxverum @ Jul 3 2003, 03:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->blood spattering all overing the walls is excessive,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
TFC with cl_gibcount set high. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Blood and gore in games doesn't generally bother me, but I don't think something like that would fit in an NS game either. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit: Oh, I am very glad that there WILL be feedback for my chompy skulk teeth, though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I hope, after all this, there's actually some feedback for the bitee (or spikee) as well. If you're being spiked in the back, and the only feedback is the blood, you could easily not realise you're under attack (just as easily as at present).
I'm happy about blood. Part of me can take it or leave it, but another part wants to see a bit when skulking, fountains when fading, and gibs up the walls as onos.......... perhaps I should switch to decaff.
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/jam544/kombat.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yeah I made it, but I didnt put as much effort into it as would make me happy. Im just glad that my fark photoshop skills are being put to use.
edit: The tricky part was actually removing scorpion and sub-zero <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
i wouldnt mind a bit of blood. As long as it isnt the over the top CS/HL kind that just goes <i>everywhere</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
too many decals make my frame rate cry <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
i dont care if version 2 has marine blood or not cos the majority of servers i play on have it installed anyway.
for example, the blueyonder servers (where i play mostly) and the innervision server (wen i want sum random fun on custom maps <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
In the beta forum thread, it has been suggested that there should be a sound instead of the blood - I think that if the blood was unwanted but used for hit recognition purposes that a small sound would probably be better.
Not the tiny little *crunch* we get in 1.04, but some kind of pain sound from the marine. Not the over-enthusiastic death scream style thing, it should be something closer to a grunt or *ugh!* noise from the marine. It gives something to recognise the hit by, but keeps the blood out.
The only problem now is making the sound loud enough to be heard over the chomping , but not so loud that it gets annoying or grosses out younger player's parents. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Someone suggested having marine armor gibs as hit confirmation. Would still be a good hit confirmation without the gore methinks. But then it could cause graphical slowdown or something, with more models appearing. Maybe it could be combined with the marine sound feedback?
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Um, maybe their coughing blood?! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Mortal Selection?
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Thats awesome! If you made that, good job!
Yay! Organs!
The Natural Kombat picture is 100% pwn.
It wasn't me!
...
Nobody saw me!
...
You can prove NOTHING!
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Well, I must say I'm quite surprised... in a positive way.
I would NOT like Blood just as a gory element to make NS more scary.. but I like some blood as Feedback of attacks.
-my2cent-
Hyper
Oh, and I don't know if this is actually a possible hack or if he just somehow managed to trick an admin into letting him be invincible (or turning on cheats for a moment or two to fix something and the kid using whatever cheat that is). I just know that somehow, he was.
<b><span style='color:red'>F A T A L I T Y</span></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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EDIT: by the way, i dont understand why people dont want Blood in Natural Selection, i mean it IS fake....
or is it?
:shiftyeyes:
Mortal Selection?
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Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
uh...heh heh, thats an onos t here buddy, and ur just a silly marine with a lmg... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Mortal Selection?
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Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
uh...heh heh, thats an onos t here buddy, and ur just a silly marine with a lmg... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
no LMG - SHOTGUN <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Alien Breed <b>pwnz</b>.
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
oh yeah, and...umm. Visual feedback is cool. Plus, you had to purchase a mature rated game to even be able to play NS, so what's up with the squeamishness coming out now? It's all good, baby. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I hope that the blood don't cover your whole line of sight when you bite a marine as a skulk ...
[quote=archhaven]I love the addition of blood. My only complaint is that it's too bright and unrealistic.[/quote]
uhh guys... .turn down your gamma u nubs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> j/k
Edit: WTH quotes wont work :O maybe cause its 4:10 in the morning and i cant figure out why...o well u get teh picture
TFC with cl_gibcount set high. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Blood and gore in games doesn't generally bother
me, but I don't think something like that would
fit in an NS game either. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit: Oh, I am very glad that there WILL be feedback
for my chompy skulk teeth, though! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Mortal Selection?
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Thats awesome! If you made that, good job! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yeah I made it, but I didnt put as much effort into it as would make me happy. Im just glad that my fark photoshop skills are being put to use.
edit: The tricky part was actually removing scorpion and sub-zero <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
for example, the blueyonder servers (where i play mostly) and the innervision server (wen i want sum random fun on custom maps <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
Not the tiny little *crunch* we get in 1.04, but some kind of pain sound from the marine. Not the over-enthusiastic death scream style thing, it should be something closer to a grunt or *ugh!* noise from the marine. It gives something to recognise the hit by, but keeps the blood out.
The only problem now is making the sound loud enough to be heard over the chomping , but not so loud that it gets annoying or grosses out younger player's parents. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->