The Kharaa.
Macguyvok
Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Where did they come from? Maybe...</div> Something to pass the time waiting for 2.0:
Well, I was thinking where did the Kharaa come from? A friend and I got talking, and really quickly a story emerged. We discussed it at length, and made it fit the NS manual. I posted it in the Fan Fiction page, and figured I'd put a post in here, to share it with you guys. If you want to know one Ns player's ideas on the topic, go <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=37625' target='_blank'>here</a>.
Well, lemme know what you think!
Well, I was thinking where did the Kharaa come from? A friend and I got talking, and really quickly a story emerged. We discussed it at length, and made it fit the NS manual. I posted it in the Fan Fiction page, and figured I'd put a post in here, to share it with you guys. If you want to know one Ns player's ideas on the topic, go <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=37625' target='_blank'>here</a>.
Well, lemme know what you think!
Comments
o "The Kharaa will work together to defend their hives, or attack a large force or well defended base. Otherwise, it's each Kharaa for itself, gestating, evolving, and behaving according to their own objectives.... But for the unifying presence of the bacterium and hive sight, they would be little more than aggressive (and cunning) animals."
o "After observing images brought back from the field, TSA scientists speculate that hives are actually creatures that have been evolved into this form over an incredibly long time, to serve the bacteria's ends."
Also, it never mentiones if the Kharaa actually die, it does say that a respawned marine is a new marine, but it doesn't comment on the Kharaa, now does it? I think this fits the idea of the bacterium better, plus it gives NS more of a RPG feel, hehe.
-The Bacterium most likely are sentinent single-celled creatures...that are like viruses. And they behave like the Zerg, constantely assimilating and tweaking with things in their race to make them stronger/faster/smarter?? (Well, they know what a button is, and that dropping a def tower in Shipping blocks the door <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
-The Kharaa are something like...a big family of egoists. They all think that they are the poo, but they care for each other and recognize (as it is in a family *cough* mine *cough*). They will always do things that are in their intrest, but help thieir brother out if a squad of marines charges him. They recognize by seeing who has the best skill in this, and then blah, he gets wings, he gets huge horns, he get uber speed, etc.
/rant
hope you enjoyed that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
-The Bacterium most likely are sentinent single-celled creatures...that are like viruses. And they behave like the Zerg, constantely assimilating and tweaking with things in their race to make them stronger/faster/smarter?? (Well, they know what a button is, and that dropping a def tower in Shipping blocks the door <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
-The Kharaa are something like...a big family of egoists. They all think that they are the poo, but they care for each other and recognize (as it is in a family *cough* mine *cough*). They will always do things that are in their intrest, but help thieir brother out if a squad of marines charges him. They recognize by seeing who has the best skill in this, and then blah, he gets wings, he gets huge horns, he get uber speed, etc.
/rant
hope you enjoyed that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>This is a commonly shared/accepted theory in the fan fiction board.</b>
I guess it's because I'm new to the Fan Fic board, but I've not seent hat yet. (Not like I looked much) Also, are there any other stories from the Kharra Perspective? I'd like to read them, if there are.
<b>The Kharaa are something like...a big family of egoists. They all think that they are the poo, but they care for each other and recognize (as it is in a family *cough* mine *cough*)</b>
Yarp! Hehe. Gotta love those cute egotistical aliens.
<img src='http://www.uk-paintball-paintballing-uk.com/paintballing_directory_images/images/splat.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
But really your fanfic does explain alot... but you give the minon of the hive to much freedom and self awareness, it should be wham! You were given birth to, now you want to survive and stay in this body, why?
Ask your self the same question, would you like to die? But since the Kharaa do have a sort of alien cominality going on I guess there would be some form of "being". Still I doubt you can have multiple free thinking minds and keep them contained without some rules or modifications....
Almost religous rules....
<img src='http://www.uk-paintball-paintballing-uk.com/paintballing_directory_images/images/splat.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
But really your fanfic does explain alot... but you give the minon of the hive to much freedom and self awareness, it should be wham! You were given birth to, now you want to survive and stay in this body, why?
Ask your self the same question, would you like to die? But since the Kharaa do have a sort of alien cominality going on I guess there would be some form of "being". Still I doubt you can have multiple free thinking minds and keep them contained without some rules or modifications....
Almost religous rules.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, as per story line, the Bacterium orriginally linked all the animals on it's planet, so I don't think it would be a far stretch to imagine it "storing" seperate consciousness.... Again, as per my storyline. You do have a good point, There would have to be rules. In essance, its the bacterium that keeps things in line. Sure, you could go out and ket killed all the time (Think of actual NS game play. Know that noob you hate on u're team? Hrm.... wonder why the bacterium isn't forcing HIM to follow the rules?) But I doubt the Kharaa will be sending you out to fight all the time. We also don't know how many beings (we assume quite a bit) the Kharaa are made up of.
I also played with the idea of allowing th bacterium to "delete" consciounesses (whoa, spelling?) if they misbehave. That'd be the ultimate punishment. Done do what's good for the hive, fine, Deleted!
Think about it. To have come as far as they have, they MUST be near perfect at what they do. That being said, it's gotta be selective at what personalities it keeps. Also, what's the perfect soldier? One that can think on his feet, make decisions on almost no data, one that can preserve himself, yet never disobey an order.
Infected Marine: Believe this or not, I agree with you. The Kharaa could be a completely alien race that's impossible for us to understand. That give is a mysterious feel that's nice.... up to a point. I think that it's true, we need to have a alien character we can understand, and relate too. If not, how are we saposed to fight it? It unsettles us, and bugs us... and people generally don't like it. I'm all for that kind of alien, except that it doesn't fit NS. NS is a game, not a story. Considering that, you know it's another human mind controlling that skulk, not something you can't relate to. Considering that, even on a subconscious level that gives you a big advantage, ie: you know how he/she is going to respond. Weither or not you know you use this, you do, I garrentee it. So, that's why my Kharaa are easy(relatively) to understand for humans.
Do you feel bad playing NS as an alien ? Do you think that's the true reason behind the marine stacking phenomenon ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
The fact is that people utterly enjoy jumping on marines and chomping stuff. The satisfaction of the kill... the desesperation of the marine team when fades breach the defenses... feeling their frustration , toying with them...
Truly addicted NS players litterally feel for their hive. They feel angst when they hear "a hive is under attack" and have a strong burst of adrenaling when the hive mind says "Now , we donce"
The alien team feels like a brotherhod , people assist each other but have personnal preferences.
Freedom is greater on the alien side imho : they don't have to obey to anyone , heck , a gorge can build sensories on ressource nodes ingame. The only reaction from the bacterium is "this place is a mess" , they can't be punished in any way.
The hive and kharaa chambers are also free , even if they can't move. They have rather passive roles but receive the love and attention of their moving bretheren , and help them as they share their feelings. Everyone feels sympathy for the hive , which is the key element of the alien system.
Aliens are free , they just have different <i>needs</i>. They need to keep the hive alive since it's their mother. They need ressources to evolve. They need to cleanse the intruders because it's fun.
They don't feel overwhelming pain , they don't fear death , they never feel lonely or abandonned (well except the gorge who asks for backup at the fscking reactor room for half an hour) and really can't feel disgusting... they have other references , to them the hive room is clean and a marine base is filled with filth. What's this bunch of ridiculous mineral things with unnatural shapes popping on the floor ? They emmit irritating sounds and have grotesque ways of interacting with the marines. And thoses pesky turret colonies... so hasty and primitive in design. They can't be compared to the majestic Offence Chamber piles perfectly sealing doorways...
The closest alien society model would be the Zerg Swarm , the assimilated beings all feel happy to serve the Overmind since their lives don't have any other purpose. As the Overmind assimilates millions of souls , none of its minions ever fear death and they blindly follow the Cerebrate's orders because they have confidence in their enlightened lead and have nothing better to do. Everyone has the right intelligence level for its task and there is no negative feeling inside the Swarm. However , there is little interaction between underlings , only the Swarm's aristocracy (the Overlords , Queens and Cerebrates) can enjoy casual discussions and truly understand the meaning of their lives.
All Kharaa are equals , they only have different needs at different times. Gorges enjoy the serenity of their work , away from the frantic fights. Skulks like to chomp marines all day long. Lerks enjoy frustrating their enemies. Fades and Onos like to terrorize marines.
That's quite a large array of life styles for slaves , don't you think ? Compare this to the marine's job... the comm gives you a HA HMG you have to move to your waypoint or everyone yells at you... If the comm doesn't build an armory in due time he gets ejected... People tend to feel bad on the marine side , more than on the alien side at least.
There was a poll about which race what the "funnierest" to play in NS , and the aliens had the most votes. It is my belief that if the Kharaa existed , they would be happier than thoses poor TSA marines.
Do you feel bad playing NS as an alien ? Do you think that's the true reason behind the marine stacking phenomenon ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
The fact is that people utterly enjoy jumping on marines and chomping stuff. The satisfaction of the kill... the desesperation of the marine team when fades breach the defenses... feeling their frustration , toying with them...
Truly addicted NS players litterally feel for their hive. They feel angst when they hear "a hive is under attack" and have a strong burst of adrenaling when the hive mind says "Now , we donce"
The alien team feels like a brotherhod , people assist each other but have personnal preferences.
Freedom is greater on the alien side imho : they don't have to obey to anyone , heck , a gorge can build sensories on ressource nodes ingame. The only reaction from the bacterium is "this place is a mess" , they can't be punished in any way.
The hive and kharaa chambers are also free , even if they can't move. They have rather passive roles but receive the love and attention of their moving bretheren , and help them as they share their feelings. Everyone feels sympathy for the hive , which is the key element of the alien system.
Aliens are free , they just have different <i>needs</i>. They need to keep the hive alive since it's their mother. They need ressources to evolve. They need to cleanse the intruders because it's fun.
They don't feel overwhelming pain , they don't fear death , they never feel lonely or abandonned (well except the gorge who asks for backup at the fscking reactor room for half an hour) and really can't feel disgusting... they have other references , to them the hive room is clean and a marine base is filled with filth. What's this bunch of ridiculous mineral things with unnatural shapes popping on the floor ? They emmit irritating sounds and have grotesque ways of interacting with the marines. And thoses pesky turret colonies... so hasty and primitive in design. They can't be compared to the majestic Offence Chamber piles perfectly sealing doorways...
The closest alien society model would be the Zerg Swarm , the assimilated beings all feel happy to serve the Overmind since their lives don't have any other purpose. As the Overmind assimilates millions of souls , none of its minions ever fear death and they blindly follow the Cerebrate's orders because they have confidence in their enlightened lead and have nothing better to do. Everyone has the right intelligence level for its task and there is no negative feeling inside the Swarm. However , there is little interaction between underlings , only the Swarm's aristocracy (the Overlords , Queens and Cerebrates) can enjoy casual discussions and truly understand the meaning of their lives.
All Kharaa are equals , they only have different needs at different times. Gorges enjoy the serenity of their work , away from the frantic fights. Skulks like to chomp marines all day long. Lerks enjoy frustrating their enemies. Fades and Onos like to terrorize marines.
That's quite a large array of life styles for slaves , don't you think ? Compare this to the marine's job... the comm gives you a HA HMG you have to move to your waypoint or everyone yells at you... If the comm doesn't build an armory in due time he gets ejected... People tend to feel bad on the marine side , more than on the alien side at least.
There was a poll about which race what the "funnierest" to play in NS , and the aliens had the most votes. It is my belief that if the Kharaa existed , they would be happier than thoses poor TSA marines. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree. Actually, quite a bit. However, I wanted to take this story down a new track, and explore the live of one individual who <i>wasn't</i> happy. I'm working on a 2nd story, in which, among others, I'm going to explain that the other kharaa ARE happy. They've come to relish the hunt, the taste of blood, and the fight. I can't say much more than that without giving things away, but I have a feeling u'll like #2 much better.
armory humping, anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
excellent read.
General Discussion shall know of this story!