Kazaa Countersuit Fails

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Corrupt upload?</div> (From CNN - <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/08/music.ruling.ap/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/0...g.ap/index.html</a> )

Oh well, it was pretty silly sounding anyways. Next up, criminals suing homeowners for not locking their doors.

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The distributor of the Kazaa software for sharing songs, movies and other files online cannot pursue an antitrust lawsuit against major recording labels and movie studios, a federal judge ruled.

Sharman Networks made the antitrust claims in January as part of its defense of a copyright infringement suit filed by the entertainment firms.

Sharman argued that music labels and studios conspired to keep authorized and copy-protected versions of their songs and movies off Kazaa. It essentially blamed piracy on the entertainment companies, saying they failed to work with Sharman to create a legal alternative.

Not entitled to damages
U.S. District Judge Stephen V. Wilson dismissed Sharman's claims, which many copyright lawyers had considered a stretch.

In Thursday's ruling, Wilson said that even if the allegations were true, Sharman would not be entitled to damages because it distributes file-sharing software and not online entertainment.

"Sharman Networks was grasping at straws to distract the court from their own improper behavior," said Matthew Oppenheim of the Recording Industry Association of America. "We are pleased that the court recognized what we have said all along -- that these claims lacked any merit."

The copyright claims against Sharman remain pending. Wilson previously ruled that two other file-sharing companies, StreamCast Networks and Grokster, are not to blame for any illegal copying conducted by the services' users. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Comments

  • ArcadiusArcadius Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15491Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sharman argued that music labels and studios conspired to keep authorized and copy-protected versions of their songs and movies off Kazaa. It essentially blamed piracy on the entertainment companies, saying they failed to work with Sharman to create a legal alternative.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Imagine that, the Movie and Recording Industry didn't want their products on Kazaa, what a shocker that one. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Sounds like the Kazaa people are getting desperate in their legal case.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Nooh! You may not take my money!

    Well then! I shall sue you!

    What? You can't sue me! I just don't want you ripping off my stuff!

    We shall see!
  • CobyCoby Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8210Members
    <img src='http://66.227.101.70/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • CobraChaosCobraChaos Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17527Banned
    <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> I can tell ya one thing that the courts will not win since KaZaA has it's operations throughout the world.BUT if the legal case is won by the RIAA and movie people it's highly unlikely that the software will disappear.So everyone keep using KaZaA lol I do for "ALOT" of "GOOODIES".
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    And as they spend $50 billion shutting down Kazaa, another program will be made at a cost of $50 in food in someones basement in Turkey...

    Paying for music is good, but they don't seem to understand it's never going to be killed off, they should take that 50 billion and give it to the music industry and skip the lawsuits <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    There was an article in my local news paper,

    It takes about various secretive companies that sell their services to "un-named clients" (film and music industry types)

    These companies distribute fake/ bogus files on filesharing programs like kazaa. They also flood the download queues with bogus requests from their own computers.

    They try to make downloading pirated files so aggrevating that people stop.

    If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?"
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Jul 9 2003, 12:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jul 9 2003, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wow I want that song !
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Didn't hackers retaliate against her website because of that?
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burncycle+Jul 9 2003, 05:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Jul 9 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Didn't hackers retaliate against her website because of that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They did... sweet sweet revenge. offered her OWN ALBUM up for d/l on her site as well.

    Same thing will happen to Kazaa that happened to napster, another file sharing app will move in to fill the void.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--obuh+Jul 9 2003, 01:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jul 9 2003, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Even more interestingly, this sold better than the actual album.

    Not. But it wouldn't have surprised me. The no talent pop crap prostitute.
  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jul 9 2003, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jul 9 2003, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--obuh+Jul 9 2003, 01:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (obuh @ Jul 9 2003, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?" <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Even more interestingly, this sold better than the actual album.

    Not. But it wouldn't have surprised me. The no talent pop crap prostitute. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...So you're saying you don't like Madonna?
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Jul 9 2003, 12:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jul 9 2003, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whew thank god she saved those poor fools from hearing her real songs.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Torgo27+Jul 10 2003, 12:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo27 @ Jul 10 2003, 12:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...So you're saying you don't like Madonna? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes.
  • ElderwyrmElderwyrm Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15296Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burncycle+Jul 9 2003, 12:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Jul 9 2003, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Didn't hackers retaliate against her website because of that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whats funny is, the hackers we're listening to madonna...
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I wish i could hack....Then I'd go and take NS 2.0, AND RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW!!!@!@
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Jul 9 2003, 09:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jul 9 2003, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    If anyone doesnt know it, Modonna has released several fake files of her songs. They appear to be the correct file size however when you play them all you hear is her screaming "What the (F word) do you think you are doing?" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I posted that before... the Madonna remix project:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=30967&hl=madonna' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...0967&hl=madonna</a>
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mullet+Jul 9 2003, 09:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Jul 9 2003, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I wish i could hack....Then I'd go and take NS 2.0, AND RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW!!!@!@ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all, that would be cracking. And thievery. Second, I'd have to kick your ***.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 10 2003, 07:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 10 2003, 07:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mullet+Jul 9 2003, 09:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Jul 9 2003, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I wish i could hack....Then I'd go and take NS 2.0, AND RELEASE IT RIGHT NOW!!!@!@ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all, that would be cracking. And thievery. Second, I'd have to kick your ***. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Before or after you grabbed a copy? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    I wouldn't get one at all. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AgentOrangeAgentOrange Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 10 2003, 02:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 10 2003, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't get one at all. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Liar. Anyone here who says they wouldnt' grab a copy is a damn dirty ape. Wait no...liar, not ape. Find me a person who says they wouldn't snake 2.0 the first chance they get, and I find you the greatest liar in the history of history!


    JAGERMEISTER!
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Jul 9 2003, 03:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 9 2003, 03:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nooh! You may not take my money!

    Well then! I shall sue you!

    What? You can't sue me! I just don't want you ripping off my stuff!

    We shall see! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what he said.
  • RevenReven Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8202Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Jul 10 2003, 07:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Jul 10 2003, 07:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    bah of course you wouldnt your one of the lucky ones that already have it <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jul 10 2003, 08:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 10 2003, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. The only reason Doom is a PT is cos he just kept hackin in and stealin the pre-1.0 rcs so they just let him be a PT <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jul 10 2003, 08:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jul 10 2003, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The no talent pop crap prostitute. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    RAWR!!!

    --Scythe--
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