Model Consistancy?

Haze · July 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Somone help!</div> I just downloaded ojji's maze map or whoevers it is, and I really wanted to play it. To my relief one server was running it, deadclan. I joined their game, and it said CD is req. No prob, so I go and turn it on, come back. Says its also running model consistancy. No prob there either. I just copied my current NS folder over onto my desktop and reinstalled. Installed the map and set up my controls. I joined again and it says it needs constancy for pshell. I just installed the game without changing <i><b>anything</b></i>. Whats going on, can somone tell me please? I really wanna try out this map.

ANeM · July 2003

Okay, first of all, what model is it having problems with. Servers usually say this.
Second of all, are you running the Half-life high definition pack?
Usually it is a problem with the shotgun shell.
I think the NS installer takes the shotgun shell model from the valve folder, which means if you have the hl hd pack, then your shotgun shell is different than that of the servers.

Haze · July 2003

Hmmm...how do I uninstall my high def pack ...I'll give it a look see.

criticaI · July 2003

No need to uninstall the High Definition pack.

Simply apply the 1.04 <i>server</i> patch and you'll be all fixed up.

Haze · July 2003

Opps I just uninstalled it, but thanks I'll do that right away.

coil · July 2003

cri.tical's got it - the 1.04 patch will take care of this error.

Haze · July 2003

Thanks a lot guys. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

I got it working...I think. I installed the patch, uninstalled the high def pack (I didnt like it anyways) so its good, probably. I just need to test it now.

Liger · July 2003

question: Why should the server care what models you're running?

Other than the Alien Queen Hive model, which removes one possible marine hiding spot... which has led to a few interesting posts that I've seen...

Also, imo, Cheating-Death is evil... if 1/2 the servers anymore didn't require it I wouldn't use it... their warning about it not being able to connect to VAC protected servers, and it "saving" you from a global ban, is because it would've caused that ban, because it runs [i would imagine] how many of the cheating scripts run...

a_civilian · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liger @ Jul 11 2003, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>question: Why should the server care what models you're running?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Because you could be using a very brightly colored model, or a model with "spikes" or very long lines that protrude from the model.

Liger · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (a civilian @ Jul 11 2003, 03:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liger @ Jul 11 2003, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>question: Why should the server care what models you're running?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Because you could be using a very brightly colored model, or a model with "spikes" or very long lines that protrude from the model.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
ah, that I can see being a problem... hmm... dunno why i didn't realize that...

ah well... thankee

RavenFire · July 2003

Not that that really is much different from some of the very bad clipping issues the 4 year old HL engine gives us anyway... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

I hate how just a few socially constipated individuals (example: <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'> )can make it ten times more frustrating to make model replacements. And, in sufficient numbers, can completely trash the online community of an entire game / mod (CS anybody? Well... not that there was really that much to <i>trash</i>... but you get what I mean).

I would party all week if somebody on Capitol Hill would stop scheming up ways to weasel more money up for themselves long enough to introduce a law that would make cheating in online games the same as vandalism. Boy, I'd love to watch the OGC boards for a few days after something like that got passed... }|)

Majin · July 2003

I hate how everything confilicts with everything!
Stupid Everything!

Marine0I · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RavenFire @ Jul 11 2003, 06:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I would party all week if somebody on Capitol Hill would stop scheming up ways to weasel more money up for themselves long enough to introduce a law that would make cheating in online games the same as vandalism. Boy, I'd love to watch the OGC boards for a few days after something like that got passed... }|)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Nah man they wont - the justice system has waaaayyyy more important and easier things to look after than a few 14 yr olds annoying the hell out of gamers.

The only way I can see legal action against cheats is when large businesses - VALVe, Blizzard, Activision etc realise just how much this is hurting their profits and lobby for change.

Then again, remember changes on Capitol Hill only affect Americans. I cant see a UN commission on hackers happening any time soon <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Vash7h3Stampede · July 2003

From my experience model consistency makes server popularity go down. The problem is that there are people out there who use different models to endow themselves with unfair advantages. Its a bit of an annoyance.

Model Consistancy?

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