Video Quality

NaO_iMpOrTaNaO_iMpOrTa Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16861Members
<div class="IPBDescription">i wanna play ns in software rending</div> i know that maybe there is already i way to play ns in software rending but i didn´t find any site whit it, all these forums i saw and none so is there a way to play ns in software quality it will really help me cause i have a 8 mgs video card <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • XenocideXenocide Join Date: 2003-07-13 Member: 18135Members
    well u can do one of two things, one go 640 X 480 and use opengl, software rendering isnt any better even at 1029X480 or you can go to www.pricewatch.com/menus/m37.htm and scrounge up enough money to play half life decently on a cheap video card like a geforce 2 or a tnt2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XenocideXenocide Join Date: 2003-07-13 Member: 18135Members
    bu the way i meant to say 1020X480
  • XenocideXenocide Join Date: 2003-07-13 Member: 18135Members
    ok im officially confused and high on cat.... i meant 1024X768... my bad <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ApeApe Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17448Members, Constellation
    Yes, Half life and all of its mods are quite useless in software mode. My advice is steer clear of it completely. Half decent video cards are available for $100AU these days. You'll find that an 8mb card is pretty much good for nothing.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    NS will not run in software.

    it jsut wont (it is actualy part of the min requirments to play <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    you can run ns in software mode but it will look pretty ****y
    AND YOU WILL NOT GET A RIGHT CLICK MENU THAT WORKS

    to get around this you will ahve to bind keys to every upgrade evolution saying and the eject comm button if you want to use the game right but feel free and try it it doesnt realy help much

    so try direct 3d runs fine if you set the res low on an older card
  • ApeApe Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17448Members, Constellation
    Even if/when you do get it to run, don't expect it to be playable..
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    No, you dont want to play in software mode. Why? Its ugly and slooow, way slower than with D3D or OGL, dont know what graphic card you have but it runs fine in OpenGL (With 3DFX mini GL) even on Voodoo 2 card.
  • ApeApe Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17448Members, Constellation
    Yeah, but you gotta remember he isn't even using a Voodoo2, it's some generic 8mb crap.

    Sidenote: Voodoo2's owned in their day.
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    As far as i remember my Voodoo 2 had 8MBs of RAM (GRAM, VRAM or whatever it was). Hey, NaO, what card you exactly have?
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--NaO_iMpOrTa+Jul 13 2003, 04:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NaO_iMpOrTa @ Jul 13 2003, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i know that maybe there is already i way to play ns in software rending but i didn´t find any site whit it, all these forums i saw and none so is there a way to play ns in software quality it will really help me cause i have a 8 mgs video card <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    8mb... OMG
    My friend, its time to spend the 100 bucks and get a really nice 64mb card.
    I'm surprized that anyone has anything like that anymore.
    You must have an older computer, what are the comp specs?
    Based on that card, I would say you have a Pentium 2 with 64mbs of 133 ram. if thats the case, no Video card will be able to help you out.
    Go and buy one of the new dell total Systems for 500 bucks, this will bring you into the new century.
    Dell will give you everything; Monitor, speakers, video and sound cards, key board, mouse, and a computer that can handle games like NS.

    If I am wrong, I still feel sorry for that 8mb card.
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    It will be more probably 100 Mhz or even 66Mhz RAm, dont think it would be 133Mhz. (based on your suggested configuration).

    I dont think this guy needs monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse, in addition i dont think he needs a new HDD, CD(DVD)-ROM and such things, he just needs new graphic card (and maybe new board and processor and memory). Or maybe if his card is some cool oldskool Voodoo accelerator he just needs some new processor and memories (to play NS).
  • ApeApe Join Date: 2003-06-17 Member: 17448Members, Constellation
    From memory my Voodoo2 card was 12mb. Ah yes, the good ole days.
    That card was pure pwnage.
  • CaimanCaiman Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16900Members
    Oh yeah?

    Well beat this:

    My video card isnt compatible with Direct 3d OR openGL. And software mode won't run at all. So i run it i Direct3d at 640 *480, knowing that a popup will crash the server and that the menu (as in "resume game," "disconnect" etc) will crash my game as well. It's also too blurrry to see much, to the point where you have to look at the surrounding walls instead of the signs to see which team you're joining! But other than that it runs pretty smoothly. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CaimanCaiman Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16900Members
    check that: popups wont crash the server <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> but i will have to restart my computer to get the brightness settings back in order
  • NaO_iMpOrTaNaO_iMpOrTa Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zerogreat+Jul 14 2003, 04:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zerogreat @ Jul 14 2003, 04:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As far as i remember my Voodoo 2 had 8MBs of RAM (GRAM, VRAM or whatever it was). Hey, NaO, what card you exactly have? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well here´s my pc or something

    Pentium 2
    Windows Me
    384 SDRAM
    Video card sis 630/730 8 mgs onboard (lol)
    1000mhz

    well thats it and you guys saying about goeforce4 and stuff well i have a geoforce4 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> the prob is that my mainboard doesn´t have the **cking agp slot so i cant put it in.I´m sad <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    PS: i´m on german (i live in france but i´m not french <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> ) so it´s pretty hard to have net around here even thought 3 pcs here lol cause mom (i´m 15) think i´m too mutch in pc blá blá bla <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NaO_iMpOrTaNaO_iMpOrTa Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16861Members
    i play ns in d3d 640 x 430 (whatever it is) i have 4 fps stuck so its kinda hard and if i go in commander chair its unplayable 1 image per 1.5 sec so wen i go in cc they alway call me noob <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> my score alway sux in all hl and mods i have <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Ahh, the almighty onboard graphic card, well if you dont have AGP slot and -just want to play HL- get some Voodoo card (3,4?,5) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (i heard that the Voodoo 5 cards are the best thing for PCI even now, and i saw Voodoo 5 6000 that costs now twice than it costed when released, there were only 50 of those 6K version cards, its rare <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ).

    [A]pe, did your Voodoo 2 (i had Diamond monster 3D 2) came without any heatsink as mine? In summer mine was overheating and i burned my hand when i touched it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> but the card survived it.
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Yea and i remember one cool thing, when i had Voodoo 3 3000 (this one had heatsink <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ), it doesnt supported hardware T&L, but with some new drivers i had software emulated hardware T&L (but only after i bought new processor, it needed P3 or Athlon to do this).
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    I feel sorry for all of you when games like Doom 3 and HL2 are out, even games like Homeworld 2 or Simcity4, would be too much for such comps.

    I was saying, before that in North America, DELL computer comp. Is selling off all of there older stuff!
    You can get a <b>FULL</b> computer system with EVERYTHING included for 500 bucks. Most people make that a pay cheque, some of us lucky ones make that a week and other still make even more than that. Minus bills and expenses and 500 bucks should be easy to save up in about 2 months tops if your really strapped for cash.

    You can buy a New DELL FULL SYSTEM and get into the new century!

    thats all I was saying, I am not telling anyone to do it, but I would if I was in that position!
  • BrollyBrolly Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18170Members
    I can beat that easy,

    My Vid Card is the latest GEFORCE FX5900 256 mb i have a 3.6ghz processor, and a big 21 inch monitor, my res can woop urs i put it all on highest D3D or GL settings and still v high fps over 200 LOL u can never beat that LOL
  • NaO_iMpOrTaNaO_iMpOrTa Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16861Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brolly+Jul 15 2003, 09:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brolly @ Jul 15 2003, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can beat that easy,

    My Vid Card is the latest GEFORCE FX5900 256 mb i have a 3.6ghz processor, and a big 21 inch monitor, my res can woop urs i put it all on highest D3D or GL settings and still v high fps over 200 LOL u can never beat that LOL <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTH LOL
  • NaO_iMpOrTaNaO_iMpOrTa Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16861Members
    well just my pc sux my mouse is optic <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> whit 5 buttons yay my keeyboard is good 2 just the cpu sux
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brolly+Jul 15 2003, 09:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brolly @ Jul 15 2003, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can beat that easy,

    My Vid Card is the latest GEFORCE FX5900 256 mb i have a 3.6ghz processor, and a big 21 inch monitor, my res can woop urs i put it all on highest D3D or GL settings and still v high fps over 200 LOL u can never beat that LOL <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I hope that spiders crawl into your bed and lay eggs in your head!
    You have the computer I want, but I plan to wait a few more months till Pentium comes out with the next big JUMP the last one was the 3.0 800mhz FSB which is better than your 3.06. and no you don't have a 3.6 you have a 3.06.
    I am going to wait till the 4.50 is out or something like that, then I can feel asured that I will have a comp of Server power!
    Or I might just end up getting a Dual 3.0 with 800mhz once they come out with a MB that can hadle something like that!
  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    2 Brolly - you can get maximally 100 fps in HL, its capped <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> , liar <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    2 NaO - isnt it genius Net Scroll Optical (i have it, it has 5 buttons too) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    2 Majin - i can run Doom 3 (the E3 demo) at 50 fps with high details <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, but it uses loads of memory, i have 512MB RAM + 1GB swap file and i ran out of virtual memory while playing this Doom 3 version 0.02 (yea, its really 0.02 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ) , i think the full version will be more optimized
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Zerogreat - I have played the Doom 3 demo also, I only have a P3 866 with 512 ram but!!!!! I have A swap file of 1.7 gigs on a 10k WD HDD, so I can use uber amounts of V mem and things never go to hell, I have opped my Computer about as much as I can!
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Remember - the Tech forum is not for discussions. It is for 'I have a problem' and 'I have a solution'. Take these sorts of things to off-topic. I'm going to be locking these pretty brutally from now on, so try and self-regulate yourselves.
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