Newbie Help

Turgoz_Tenhammers · July 2003

Hi I was hoping someone could help me with getting NS mapping up and running. I have the Hammer Editor and I tried setting it up for NS but was unsuccessful. I can start making maps and using NS textures but when I try to "Run" a map it wont load. I have a start point and a light source in my nice cosy room so I should think it would work. Thanks for your help.

Nay · July 2003

put -game ns +map <mapname> on the map parameters and run the map this should automatically load the map if u have set the place to compiled to ns/maps

Turgoz_Tenhammers · July 2003

Thanks that helps alot now I just have to figure out why it "is not found on the server" Anyone know why?

SNiperMarine · July 2003

lol i was confused but today i figured out how to run a map i made

it wasnt found on server? ha ha ha ha maybe you didnt set it up... if you kind of did you need allt eh entries and brush things....

well check some of the old pages in suggestions htis page is 1st newest check 2nd newest or 3rd cause i made a topic and someone directed me to a good site that is focused on ns... it is a geocities site ic an write it down for you but waht is teh fun of that you ahve to check the 1st newest 2nd newset and myabe 3rd newest i avhe posted more then 1 topic in suggentuions though

lol, i guess

Luzige · July 2003

Check the snark pit and learn how to map in HLDM first....then move up to the intermediate level NS

Nay · July 2003

indeed, if its not found on server then its not been compiled or placed in ya map folder, simple tbh =)

Turgoz_Tenhammers · July 2003

thank you all

Lt_Gravity · July 2003

WTH all the "mappers" (that means "noobwannabe´s") feel to start mapping for ns and still spamming this forum with the same question day by day? maybe some cant read. maybe some dont know that "where the compiled map has to be placed?" is not a problem that has to be dicussed. know there will be some "dont flame noobs, dont answer a thread when you dont have something constructive to say!" maybe the admins find a way stopping this annoying flood...

Ollj · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SNiperMarine @ Jul 12 2003, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> lol i was .....

it wasnt found on server? ha ha ha ha maybe you didnt set it up...

...

lol, i guess  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Funny, yesterday we all laughted at you. some still do.

There are anough "getting started" tutorials all around.

Nay · July 2003

lol @ your signature Ollj <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> good one that hehe

SNiperMarine · July 2003

the map is not found on server caus you need "-game ns" when you press run a box comes up put that in there

iw as informed about that by someone else nad then i remembered it somewhere else

Shadowics · July 2003

Sniper - the very first person who replied said that and more. Stop posting for no reason just to raise your post count.

SNiperMarine · July 2003

what is my post count 6?

Azraiel · July 2003

yes, make sure your bsp is in your maps folder, and make sure you have an info_mapinfo entity in your map, that is what makes it an ns map and have it show up on your map list.

Shadowics · July 2003

Your post count is 6 because one of the moderators reset it because of all the spamming you were doing.

Papercut · July 2003

Yea, you spammed....

Too bad they didnt ban you.

Sniper_Chance · July 2003

Better yet: Deleted from the database.

Shadowics · July 2003

Actually the info_mapinfo isn't required. A testing map will run fine without it, but Commander mode and the minimap would be screwed up.

Papercut · July 2003

All you really need to test a map is the info_playerstart.

Turgoz_Tenhammers · July 2003

Thanks, I was still having a little trouble still running it so I reinstalled it from scratch, I think it was having trouble because it was in my D drive in a different folder. I think it is working now.

And to Lt. Gravity, I happen to have had some experience mapping with Unreal engine but I was unfamiliar with the Valve system. I am sorry I wasted your 5 seconds that it took you to read my post and move on but I looked very hard for other information on this before I posted. The Snark pit was down at the time (maybe still is?) and the Valve ERC doesn't have alot of information for NS.

Inafiscisis · July 2003

I think lt.gravity is a bit on edge due to a recent newbie that joined the forums a few days ago. since then
he has managed to get his post count up to well over 150 (mostly (if not all) spam). He got reset tho. Wish
someone would ban him. Yes, newbies all deserve a bit of patience, but this one...well, theres no suitable
word to describe this guy.

So much for monsieurs request regarding newbies. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Cildan · July 2003

We were all newbs, yelling at a newb doesn't make you any better.

Inafiscisis · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cildan @ Jul 13 2003, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> We were all newbs, yelling at a newb doesn't make you any better. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
amen to that.

but when a newb keeps yellin', it gets annoying. And he's done 150 posts worth of yelling in 4 days.

[edit]stupid typo[/edit]

Lt_Gravity · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>We were all newbs, yelling at a newb doesn't make you any better. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
In my eyes its sowhat annoying. every week there areover 20 topics with 2Im a noob please help me!" in the title. I admit... that we were noobs once. shure I dont know how to use the func_weldable to my needs <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> but if you spend 4 years with figuring out how worldcraft works, how hl works, how to lower the r_speeds, what func_wall?s are good for,... its annoying when you realize that some of the guys dont even try too hard to get things work. I seems to me all the beginning mappers (left out "noob" here, more likely "greehorn" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> ) for hl start or feel starting with ns. guys: ns is really hard stuff. all the years of hl-"experience" are only worth little when starting for ns. take your time, lern how to do things and most important: if you create a box with necessary entities DONT RELEASE IT AND CALL IT A MAP! be patient. in my rmf folder there are nearly 20 conzept maps/mapparts that never got finished but I lerned so much in creating it. maybe if beginning mappers get morepatient, some veterans will help them to create ns fitting maps. thats what its all about, isnt it? creating ns maps. not to mention "boxmaps", "dropmaps", "siege-maps" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Shadowics · July 2003

Gravity's right. Try and figure things out for yourself before asking for help. NS is my first mapping for Half-Life, basically my first mapping in 3-D even. But I've only made a few posts asking for help. If I didn't know how to do something, I'd make a test map and figure it out (I didn't even know about snarkpit or Verc when I started) Know how many maps I've made to date? (counting each individual .map file as a map, when many are just boxes for testing how something-or-other works) 332! Know how many maps I've released? Just one so far. I'd still consider myself new to mapping. I don't even know how to make an ambient_generic work, that's one of the things on my list of things to figure out.

Yeah, and everything else Gravity said too.

Inafiscisis · July 2003

Gonna quote Maus here (read the full post under the stickied thread by monsieurEvil (misspelled?))

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>It seems like most people like to be spoon-fed information while only a handful would try to seek it
out themselves (by reading FAQs, searching the forums, etc). </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

What I suggest is some sort of blocker for people to post within 24 hrs of joining. That should keep many
non-serious people from messing about. Most of these people ignore rules thinking "these apply
only for normal people, I am Me and I do as I want.", don't read anything that doesn't fit their fancy, and
are generally ignorant/selfish. If you make 'em unable to post, that should either give them time to read the
rules/faq or discourage them from posting their trash altogether, and maybe even get them to read a
tutorial (ideal, but not probable).

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