Fighting Spammers

esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Dude, never p**s these guys off....</div> I've just been sitting here reading through a thread on dslreports.com. Man, do you NOT want to get on the wrong side of these lot. They can track down your pets name from just the '.' in your IP. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Check out the thread <a href='http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7369182~root=spam~mode=flat;start=0' target='_blank'>here</a>.

Comments

  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    all they did was whois =/ [all ive read is the first post or so]
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    That pretty damn funny that it took him from 11pm to 2am to do all that....It's cool that hes gonna get revenge and all that, but it's not that hard to get all that info. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> I didnt read the whole thing, so maybe im wrong.


    ***** A program by the name of "Ip Tools" can get you all that info. I wub you Ip Tools <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> all they did was whois =/ [all ive read is the first post or so] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's 15+ pages of information, they literally track down their addresses, all their friends addresses, who they've ever worked for, what they're doing now, every service they subscribe to, phone numbers. Everything. Those guys scare me. The whois is just the tip of the iceberg.

    And before someone asks, yes, i stole this from /. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: 18 Pages in total. You can't just read 1 and presume you know the whole story.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    let me recap what i can gather basically from a skim read of the first and last page:

    whois
    google
    some basic command prompt stuff, like maybe trace route etc etc to see all the servers, etc
    and they check headers

    ive got a way better detective story, with actual scary results, but its about adult business scammers. but if anybody wants it, pm me... unless the mods say its alright to post?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Sorry eediot, but i'm going to disregard any of your comments on this, as you said, you skimmed through the first and last page, you know nothing.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    This proves something about the net.

    **** off the wrong person and you'll regret it.......
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Some people take spamming too serious. *Sighs* Some people just cant take jokes I suppose....Its not like this guy lost any valuable information... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    okay, here are the links. please dont go there if youre underage, or dont want to see this sort of thing, or innocent or whatever. mods please delete/edit if you find it inappropriate

    please note that this is about a adult business scam [essentially, pornography.] it doesnt, from memory, show anything 'naughty', but yeah keep your eye out, and to be safe just dont go hehe. but i thoroughly enjoyed the story, it was written very well and being true it was very exciting, and had an amazing ending.

    okay:

    here are four urls to the topic at hand. ill put them in the order you should read them... well, actually, none of them really matter, except for the last one. read it LAST. you can skim read the first 3, and the fourth one, you can just read the ones from the important names, and skim read the random "good work" "i knew they were sus" "i got jipped" replies, etc.

    <a href='http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=2859&' target='_blank'>http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/i...=ST&f=3&t=2859&</a>
    <a href='http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=2905&st=0' target='_blank'>http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/i...f=3&t=2905&st=0</a>
    <a href='http://askmrporn.com/wmh/wwwboard/messages/38650.html' target='_blank'>http://askmrporn.com/wmh/wwwboard/messages/38650.html</a>



    read this LAST.

    <a href='http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=3978&st=0' target='_blank'>http://www.avslounge.com/webmaster_board/i...f=3&t=3978&st=0</a>
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    esuna - the only amazing thing about it was the amount of effort they put into tracking the guy down, and since its an antispammer forum, whats so special? besides, my 'story' has a satisfying and exhilirating ending.. and dont give me any "but mines true" stuff, this one is true as well. and well written, so everybody can be interested

    hehe

    and no im not ripping you off, i just like to open my mouth at the wrong times, and vomit on everybody

    hehe

    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    It's just the one on DSLR has surprisingly good progress and the guy they're investigating is also posting on the forum too, which is all oddness.

    I'm not gonna click your links though, i'm at work and i can't risk getting obscene images.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    i doubt theres going to be obscene images, i dont remember any, and just turn images off <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> but yeah better safe than sorry, but its an excellent read

    hehe yeah im gonna read the story when i get time ><
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    Eediots story is incredible. I can't believe its true. I will probably remember that for the rest of my life, lol....No kidding either. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    told you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> if my post with the links gets edited/deleted whatever, but u still want it, pm me. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jul 14 2003, 04:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jul 14 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> all they did was whois =/ [all ive read is the first post or so] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's 15+ pages of information, they literally track down their addresses, all their friends addresses, who they've ever worked for, what they're doing now, every service they subscribe to, phone numbers. Everything. Those guys scare me. The whois is just the tip of the iceberg. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The old Keyser Soze routine, eh? Terminating with extreme prejudice... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jul 14 2003, 01:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jul 14 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jul 14 2003, 04:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jul 14 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Jul 14 2003, 04:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> all they did was whois =/ [all ive read is the first post or so] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's 15+ pages of information, they literally track down their addresses, all their friends addresses, who they've ever worked for, what they're doing now, every service they subscribe to, phone numbers. Everything. Those guys scare me. The whois is just the tip of the iceberg. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The old Keyser Soze routine, eh? Terminating with extreme prejudice... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yah the Usual Supects thing was based on old Japanese mafia hitmen who would be assigned to murder everyone you know, immediate family, aunts, uncles, in-laws, ex-girlfriends (I'm not kidding), friends, family doctors/priests, etc.

    This was usually done to people who entered into a groups trust and then broke it. Such extreme actions insured that that trust didn't get broken very often.

    The Soze character is based around the person who carried out these masacres, people swore that they could walk into a crowded room kill the people they were supposed to and then just vanish without a trace.

    I guess these guys are the internet equavilent. Spooky stuff.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I have no personal qualms with drawing and quarting of spammers (e-mail, etc)

    I recall hearing that there might be legistlation in the work that will enable you to <b>sue</b> for $5 for every pop-up, if this bill passes pop ups can be considered dead...
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    If that ever happens, which im pretty damn sure it wont, ILL BE A MILLIONAIR!!!! When i connect to the internet, i get 5 pop-ups right away, lol. It would be pretty damn cool if you could sue for 5$ every pop up....but it wont happen. (OPINION, dont feel like arguing right now.... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    That DSL reports thing is interesting but let me tell you about what I had to do last year.

    Last year about 200 students here at PSU were really clogging up the network with a file sharing system they were using. Each time I had it shut down they moved it to a different host. While the individual who was running the host would lose their connection eventually they got smart and moved it to Denmark. Unfortunately for these 'intelligent' ringleaders, they still had to advertise the filesharing service.

    A whois, a few trace routes then some port sniffing and 200 students lost their connections.

    Before you weep for these students let me tell you a few stats: The average student on this service was sharing upwards of 50 Gigabytes of copyrighted material, 4+ Gigabytes of uploads per week. And the entire network crashed almost 15 times during one semester (normally it wont crash even once). Ping from a standard residence hall was 200 ms to PSU.EDU (and it was from within PSU!)

    I guess this just illustrates that tracks are left everywhere on the internet.
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--That Annoying Kid+Jul 14 2003, 02:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Jul 14 2003, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have no personal qualms with drawing and quarting of spammers (e-mail, etc)

    I recall hearing that there might be legistlation in the work that will enable you to <b>sue</b> for $5 for every pop-up, if this bill passes pop ups can be considered dead... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No way - that law would only stand in America. Americans seem to forget on a continual basis that an entire world exists outside of America. Any such law would only benefit Americans. Pop up people could still hound the rest of us. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> Thank god I use a browser which automatically defeats popups. And any that get through I can add to "Teh Li57".
  • SpeedKilledSpeedKilled Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15012Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jul 14 2003, 08:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jul 14 2003, 08:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--That Annoying Kid+Jul 14 2003, 02:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Jul 14 2003, 02:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have no personal qualms with drawing and quarting of spammers (e-mail, etc)

    I recall hearing that there might be legistlation in the work that will enable you to <b>sue</b> for $5 for every pop-up, if this bill passes pop ups can be considered dead... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No way - that law would only stand in America. Americans seem to forget on a continual basis that an entire world exists outside of America. Any such law would only benefit Americans. Pop up people could still hound the rest of us. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> Thank god I use a browser which automatically defeats popups. And any that get through I can add to "Teh Li57". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, actually it wouldn't only benifit Americans. It'd only discourage American based websites from using pop-ups. Whats going to stop someone in another country which isn't affected by the American government?
    Edit: Typo :-\
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