Xenocide

Cal1Cal1 Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16847Members
Couple things I have noticed about xenocide from a lot of custom maps.

1) the splash damage on it is unbelieveable. You could be a flying jptpacker on nomblizkikko jump up at least 25+ feet and still suffer 50 damage. Thats a bit extreme.

2)Why is there a model after the xenocide explosion. No, I am not suggesting gibs, I am mean like a blank model or maybe just a skulk head there, kind of frighting reminder that "YOUR GOING TO LOSE!". Just something interesting to see.

3)At least in 1.04 I have not noticed how it does doule damage vrs buildings. Used a server plugin to determine building life and it only did 200 damage when I xeno'ed next to it.

Final note. PEOPLE! ITS NOT "Genocide" its "Xenocide" its got a "Z" sound. It drives me insane to hear that.

Use websters the prefix Xeno means ALIEN!

Comments

  • cr3amcr3am Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7221Members
    edited July 2003
    I think that as a marine the xenocide splash is frustratingly big, but as an alien the splash is frustratingly small sometimes. It's all relative.



    Xenophobia is the fear (phobia) of foreigners (xeno). A synonym for foreigners is alien. So you are correct about the Xeno part.
    Genocide is the mass kiling (cide) of a certain type of people (geno). The Armenian genocide for example... very bad thing. Don't say Genocide.

    Angry - It's getting better, but still... people it's a Turret not a Turrent.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--|=Cal=|+Jul 23 2003, 12:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|=Cal=| @ Jul 23 2003, 12:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Couple things I have noticed about xenocide from a lot of custom maps.

    1) the splash damage on it is unbelieveable. You could be a flying jptpacker on nomblizkikko jump up at least 25+ feet and still suffer 50 damage. Thats a bit extreme.

    2)Why is there a model after the xenocide explosion. No, I am not suggesting gibs, I am mean like a blank model or maybe just a skulk head there, kind of frighting reminder that "YOUR GOING TO LOSE!". Just something interesting to see.

    3)At least in 1.04 I have not noticed how it does doule damage vrs buildings. Used a server plugin to determine building life and it only did 200 damage when I xeno'ed next to it.

    Final note. PEOPLE! ITS NOT "Genocide" its "Xenocide" its got a "Z" sound. It drives me insane to hear that.

    Use websters the prefix Xeno means ALIEN! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, it ain't got a "Z" sound, it's got an "X" sound. It ain't Zenocide either. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    edited July 2003
    lol it is a "z" sound u nub how do u say xylophone?? hehehe
    Nah i must admit i am happy that in next version xeno will kill stock marines at point blank it really anoyed me when u popped next to their leg and they were still alive.
    I seem to remember they had issues with xeno not doin full damage like bile bomb never use to.

    Nuttin annoys me more than turrents, genocide and gorg, why the hell do ppl think it is gorg and not gorge??

    - Roger Dodger

    <b>Watch your language, please.</b>
  • Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
    Because on the score chart it says GORG, and they never RTFM.
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Roger Dodger+Jul 23 2003, 09:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roger Dodger @ Jul 23 2003, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why the hell do ppl think it is gorg and not gorge?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what annoys me even more is when people say 'skul' or 'skull' instead of <i>skulk</i>
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    Be happy that that won't happen in 2.0. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
    Okay, I've seen you vets and pts claim that 2.0 will fix a lot of problems. But there is no way that 2.0 is going to cure stupid spelling errors.

    OFMG TEH SKULL GENOCIDE D4 TURRENTZ!!!!!1!!!
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Awkward+Jul 23 2003, 09:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr. Awkward @ Jul 23 2003, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, I've seen you vets and pts claim that 2.0 will fix a lot of problems. But there is no way that 2.0 is going to cure stupid spelling errors.

    OFMG TEH SKULL GENOCIDE D4 TURRENTZ!!!!!1!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Skulk and Gorge are spelled out on the scoreboard now instead of SKUL or GORG
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    Unless the word "Skulk" and "Gorge" are actually spelled out in the scoreboard. Can't do anything about the genocide thing. Just start calling it "Divine Wind" like all the really cool people. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dr_StrangeDr_Strange Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17205Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Awkward+Jul 23 2003, 09:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr. Awkward @ Jul 23 2003, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, I've seen you vets and pts claim that 2.0 will fix a lot of problems. But there is no way that 2.0 is going to cure stupid spelling errors.

    OFMG TEH SKULL GENOCIDE D4 TURRENTZ!!!!!1!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it will. Read changelog, fool!
  • GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
    Yes Xeno is actually greek word. In english its called "Zeno" In greek "Kseno" and means strange,unknown,alien <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
    Yes, I know about the scoreboard changes. I fail to see how changing the scoreboard will change people's opinions about the spelling of "turrents". <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Does using xenocide still act as a suicide(take away a kill and add a death)? I'm aware that alien personal scores no longer show, but it'd be nice if it didn't hurt the team ratio.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--|=Cal=|+Jul 22 2003, 11:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|=Cal=| @ Jul 22 2003, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2)Why is there a model after the xenocide explosion. No, I am not suggesting gibs, I am mean like a blank model or maybe just a skulk head there, kind of frighting reminder that "YOUR GOING TO LOSE!". Just something interesting to see. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it wouldnt be a head, because that is what explodes
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gargamel+Jul 23 2003, 05:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gargamel @ Jul 23 2003, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes Xeno is actually greek word. In english its called "Zeno" In greek "Kseno" and means strange,unknown,alien <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So THAT'S why people say zenocide. They just can't speak gr33k. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EplekongenEplekongen Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8915Members
    It was not the kahraa that came together and decided that they could call this attack xenocide because it killed aliens. It was the TSA that gave it name because it was an alien and it did a suicide. Yeah <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--NoImagination+Jul 23 2003, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NoImagination @ Jul 23 2003, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's only a xenocide if you manage to kill a foreign (alien) organism. I can only speak for myself of course, but my xenocides rarely kill anyone but me (I usually target buildings and mines or just use it for fun though...). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, to the aliens, the marines are foreigners. "Cleanse the intruders" and all that.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    And with that statement, Zek wins. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Drewbar99Drewbar99 Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16505Members
    Well if u think about, you go in as aliens & you Xenocide yourself & get a Marine in the process, that would be a Xenocide Homocide.....

    If it doesn't make sense to u, then it is your loss! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    I always thought it was called xenocide because the TSA named the ability; it's an alien, it commits suicide, so xenocide.

    Anyway, xenocide has to stay as the name because it's too cool.
  • n4s7yn4s7y Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15627Members
    Who cares about balancing Xeno...

    if they have 3 hives and they're xenoing you to death... you're not gonna win anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--NoImagination+Jul 24 2003, 02:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NoImagination @ Jul 24 2003, 02:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [...]What's the latin name for Kharaa? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Buh? The Romans didn't know about the Kharaa.
  • WitznerWitzner Join Date: 2003-07-23 Member: 18373Members
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I'd get my fiancee out of bed to do some translating, but there is possibly little chance of actually getting a direct translation. Best you'd get would be a translation of "alien" which would probably translate into foreigner, seeing as I'm not completly sure if the Romans had science fiction or extrapolated about intersteller beings <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    dulce et decorum est pro imperatori mori --> It is fitting and sweet to die for your commander <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cal1Cal1 Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16847Members
    The reason I got so pee'ved at people saying Genocide is I had great grandparents in the Holocaust. PLease keep your Jewish comments to yourself please.
  • Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
    edited July 2003
    Genocide is a generic term that refers to the extermination of a culture or people. No Jewish comments were made.

    [edit] To clear up your confusion, you should know that the term for the killing of Jews would be in Latin either Hebracide or Iudaeacide. My latin is pretty bad, so I don't know whether to choose the adjective or the noun, but I suspect it's the former of the two. Since no one has used either of these terms, it's safe to say that they are not trying to imply anything about the Jewish holocaust, which is one of many genocidal events throughout history. [/edit]
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
  • KwilKwil Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17963Members
    Nothing for Kharaa in Latin, obviously but I figure "Latito Mortis" would be appropriate enough. "Hidden Death"
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    bah, just call it Divine Wind and be over with it
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