Stop Hijacking Threads!

RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
<div class="IPBDescription">you want off-topic? I got your off topic</div> Now as we all know there has been thread after STUPID thread filled with STUPID ideas or bad models or WHATEVER, which end up in one person flaming, another person pointing to the politeness thread, and then Sheena showing up and pointing out these repetitious actions. Frankly I believe I agree with Sheena on this topic because yes people do use the politeness thread as a shield to be able to flame someone else while looking like the "good guy" whos defending someone else. This does not mean I encourage the original insulter to go unhindered, but there are better ways of doing things. The politeness thread seems to hinder more than it helps in some ways. We are ending up with more and more threads turning into flame wars, debates, and generally going COMPLETELY off the topic of the thread... and I myself know I have done this as well.

So, what am I trying to say here? Keep your eye on the ball (geeze I use a lot of old quotes). Don't stray from the topic just to make a fool out of someone insulting a model. If the maker of the thread doesn't appreciate the person's comment they can defend themselves, if you want to say that that person is wrong say something like "actually I think it's a good idea" or "I think it's well done".... keep it on topic. We don't need "don't insult him Mr L... Mr. P is doing a lot more than you"... we need "Good job Mr.P, nice work". EVEN IF someone is flaming beyond limits don't you think that it's a better idea to just press that little "report post" button in the corner instead of posting some insulting post which perpetuates the offtopicness? When you post your comeback to an insulter, you are also encourageing others to go "you tell him Mr A" or "You suck Mr A, he can do what he wants"... make a little descression before you make a post, because you may very well be ruining a perfectly fine thread.

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  • VragnorVragnor Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18359Members
    edited July 2003
    Not sure if I got all that (tired, feel like crap, finals are over <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ). But I would have to agree with you. And I will also follow this advice since, 1. First time trying to model for a game. 2. I'm COMPLETE newb (dont say otherwise...) and will expect to get a lot of flames <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    [Edit] I hope you can see i'm a newb. First post ever. [/edit]
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    Mommy...the man with the pig avatar over there is scary...
    *cowers in fear*
    ...
    I think your a bit of an overwrought, zealous, paladin. Sure, you mean well, but this is getting to be a bit much? Expecially posting topics like this. This is the what...3rd? 4th topic of such a type about being polite/tolerant in the modeling community? Appeal to the modelers, who should be able to take critizism, not the community. Many in the community will follow, but some (IE: llamas, jerkoffs, ragers, Satan) will ignore and start something. PM when a situation comes up is advisable, instead of putting up a new thread which takes a position where a [WiP]model should be.
  • JaegerJaeger Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10202Members
    Chiding a flamer is like playing Russian Roulette, and you'd think people would learn. I dunno.

    Something in it is probably where people think it's their "civic duty" to "fight the good fight" whether it involves them or not. One of these days it's gonna do nothing but bite you in the ****.

    That's what PMs are for, and until people learn to air their dirty laundry in private (myself included, and you're in no way above this, Road <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ), I'm afraid we'll be seeing a lot more of it.


    Welcome to the forums, Vragnor. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
    Delta, I'd rather make a new topic for my stupid ranting than hijack someone else's thread which has gone to this result...
  • UlatohUlatoh Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 10982Members
    I dont know why you need to start a new thread at all.

    Does anyone here listen to people who's posts represent them as flamers?

    If im reading a post about a model or anything else for that matter, and i see the words "sucks" or "Blows" and its not talking about wind patterns, i skip to the next one...

    noone cares what the flamers do, we ignore them, though we do encourage good behavior, those who exhibit bad behavior are ignored
  • RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
    obviously some people do care what the flamers do because these problem IS prevelant in these forums. You may do the nice thing and skip over them and concentrate on the actual point of the thread, but there are a lot of people who "feed the trolls" as it were...
  • SylverSylver Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13446Members
    edited July 2003
    I think most flamers are even funney <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    and that's because most of the time they don't even have arguments to go with the 'this model sux'

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XenoHazardXenoHazard Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16085Members
    This anti-hijack thread is officially......HIJACKED!!!!!!

    No....J/K.

    Yea, quit the Hijackikng nonsense and leave the thread on its intedned course.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Oi...I'm guilty of the whole "Down with flamers" thing...I practically got mad at Sheena.

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <--Self

    Ya...sorry bout that Sheena. And road is right up there.
  • ironpancakeironpancake Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16643Members
    Maybe it is just me but I don't see the need for these posts on politeness. I don't see very many flames. If there are alot of flames then I think these posts are very important. I will not start rambling on about how we should be polite and everything but I think people who are being accused of flaming should make a concious effort to not flame.
  • NightCrawlerzNightCrawlerz Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15609Members
    OMG DID YOU SEE THE NEW T3 MOVIE!!!!

    it was sweet huh? It was pretty cool about how the time travel and everythign worked.... They all fight and stuff..


    who else liked the t3 movie?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->??

    O yeah and i saw LXG movie and that was kinda cool but other than that it sucked..... vampire chick was kinda hot...

    OOOOO when does the starwars3 movie come out???
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    /me readies the FN-2000 Darkkiz gave him

    /me to Nightcrawler

    This is gonna hurt you a lot more than it hurt me....heh heh heh...
  • XenoHazardXenoHazard Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16085Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--NightCrawler.+Jul 25 2003, 03:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jul 25 2003, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG DID YOU SEE THE NEW T3 MOVIE!!!!

    it was sweet huh? It was pretty cool about how the time travel and everythign worked.... They all fight and stuff..


    who else liked the t3 movie?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->??

    O yeah and i saw LXG movie and that was kinda cool but other than that it sucked..... vampire chick was kinda hot...

    OOOOO when does the starwars3 movie come out??? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NOT FAIR! I ALREADY HIJACKED THE THREAD!
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Holy...I only have 1 more post than Nightcrawler...

    look, now I only have 2!!!!
  • SnO0PySnO0Py Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RoadMaster+Jul 25 2003, 01:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RoadMaster @ Jul 25 2003, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there are a lot of people who "feed the trolls" as it were... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And you're adding to those people by posting this topic...
  • XenoHazardXenoHazard Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16085Members
    HEY! FEED ME! I'M NOT A TROLL BUT I'M HUNGRY!
  • RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SnO0Py+Jul 26 2003, 05:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SnO0Py @ Jul 26 2003, 05:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--RoadMaster+Jul 25 2003, 01:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RoadMaster @ Jul 25 2003, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there are a lot of people who "feed the trolls" as it were... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And you're adding to those people by posting this topic... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ... do I even have to point out the irony in that statement? honestly now....
  • XenoHazardXenoHazard Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16085Members
    No, I see the truth.

    I admit, I kinda got drawn in, but that's just me. I see the Truth that this thread is merely drawing the problem out into the open and exposing it.
  • Mini-BlasterMini-Blaster Join Date: 2003-06-30 Member: 17813Banned
    who ever started this topic has nothing better to do than **** people off. i hope his computer dies and he cant get another one
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    edited July 2003
    *me stares at MiniBlaster*
    Run, RUN NOW! HE'S COMING!!!!!!111oneone
    *points at the scary man with a pig avatar*
    Run, you fool! He'll kill you!! RUN!!
    *me pushes Mini*
    *accidently, he tips over and falls off a cliff*
    Umm...<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    ...
    I think that this post will soon become a flame war if it isn't locked. We got the message, and sadly, some refuse to acknowledge it. There is nothing we can really do, unless we somehow initiate something around the sorts of an "admin_vote_ban."
  • RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
    I actually agree with delta here.... even though it is my own topic. This topic has spread into two parts, flamers... and people who make a joke about hijacking this thread. Heck I'm not even sure if everyone understood my point of this thread but whatever, I just HOPE it made those who always respond with links to the politeness thread think a bit more, because those were kinda the target audience, and they obviously paid attention to that FIRST "politeness" thread.

    And no Delta this was not supposed to be about being polite, it was supposed to be about being considerate to the original thread authors (in other words, I don't care if someone isn't "polite"... I just care when they mess up the topic for everyone else)
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I left this open to let people vent a bit. It's simple, really. 1) Don't hijack threads. 2) Don't flame people.

    Sad that this thread has both. /: Grow up, people... you disappoint me. You know who you are.
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