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Try bots, to learn the interface. To learn how to REALLY comm, you'll have to spend some time to learn the strats, and then jump in and pray you don't screw up... No pressure! Just kidding, most people won't mind as long as you let them know... Start with small games.
My first game was when NS had been out for abot 2 weeks. I was bored of all my other games and searching around my server browser i saw this game NS and i thought "hey i might as well give it a shot." About 20 minutes later and i was hooked <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> My experience was also made even more enjoyable by the great help i received from the other people playing. And just to add to the fun it was one of those epic games and with the help of an exceptional comm we won <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
[QUOTE]My experience was also made even more enjoyable by the great help i received from the other people playing/QUOTE]
First advice I heard: "This is an infantry portal. It's really important. Don't let it die." I then died. We didn't lose the portal, though, but apparently we lost the CC instead. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
After reading about it in a computer magasin (they praised it) I downloaded it from the n-s.org and installed it. After a quick look in the slide show I set out to find a server, I found one and joined the aliens. I was surprised how colourful it was and I wasted 5 minutes looking at the hive I spawned from <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Anyway, I tried to evolve to an onos (thanks tooltips!) but I didnt have enough res so I evolved to a gorge then, luckily most of us on the server was new so they didnt mind <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I cant really remember more, I played NS the next day and the day after, had loads of epic games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I first became aware of NS back before it was released, when either Penny Arcade or someone at the SvenCoop forums linked to the general info site. It seemed interesting. I liked the idea of a teamplay mod, I was heavily into TA at the time, so I figured resource management was awesome, and for me the cliche sci-fi atmosphere was actually a delicious pink frosting on the game.
Then when it came out, it was definitely Penny Arcade that said "Holy crap, this is sweet! <i>GET IT!</i>" So I did. Things were different back then. Jetpacks were considered a novel method of transportation, not something to swear about if a server-side utility made their owner anything less than invincible. There was no alien ping when all 3 hives were gone, and marines did not feel the need to build on the outside of the map. My enjoyment hit its peak when I learned that even with my moderate cable internet service and lousy FPS skills, I could still destroy structures as a skulk. For me, facing a marine was not exciting, because I knew I was almost certianly going to die before I got within 20 feet of one, but munching on an IP and then hearing the commander log out and start jaunting towards me from around the bend when it was at 15%... THAT was suspenseful! Finding the weak spot in a turret arrangement gave me an evil sense of accomplishment most skulks can gain simply by dropping on a marine and eating his head, which unfortunately I am <i>incapable of doing</i> for some reason. Evolving into a fade and hammering the marine spawn from around a corner... that made me happier than I could immagine. I occasionally got kills, even! Truly, this was a competetive multiplayer HL mod that <i>even I could play.</i>
Now everything is different. The aliens build RT>DEF>HIVE>MOVE because anything else is suicide. Marine relocate to an enemy hive rather than laying down IPs, because, let's face it, defending an empty room is pointless. Defending a hive makes it that much harder for them to get Fades. Nigh-invincible gambits were developed and then nerfed to whatever extent adminmod would allow. Hacks and cheats were discovered and exploited, and then shot down by CD almost before I began to suspect they were a problem, though CD is usually optional for some reason and not required. Horribly faulty bots were developed just as I was starting to get bored with the kharra, and for whatever reason, nearly all servers started running 6 of them at all times. 2 excellent custom maps were released, and then everybody started voting them off the server rotation. About 500 "fun" maps were created, and are for some reason played non-stop on clan and public servers alike.
Now the game is a struggle to get JPs and HMGs before the enemy gets Fades, and vice versa. Games are decided within the first ten minutes if somebody pulls off a really successful rush, and drag on for hours of stalemate if both teams are competent. In this hostile gaming environment, we've all been forced to learn gurellia tactics which, unfortunately, extend to prolonging the game unneccisaily by building IPs in vents, relocating outside the map, or just plain hiding in vents for the hell of it. Flayra added an alien-rot sequence to stop the kharra from doing this, but there are still no plans to do this to the marines, and they now do it <i>constantly</i> on the public servers.
It is my fondest hope that 2.0 will breathe fresh life into Natural Selection. Not just by busting us all down to noob again, but hopefully by truly rewarding diverse tactics and teamplay, and by eliminating cheap tactics as a way of life. I hope that because of all the playtesting, it takes them a lot longer to develop new overwhelming strategems, and to discover new exploits. And I hope that games will be fast enough and rewarding enough that sore loosers will no longer hide in the vents and that smug aliens will no longer leave the Ips alone once the last CC is destroyed just to bemusedly rack up kills.
In short, I hope it's fun again, and I hope it stays that way. My anticipation because the magic <i>might</i> be back in two days is almost overwhelming!
<!--QuoteBegin--Ulatoh+Jul 28 2003, 09:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ulatoh @ Jul 28 2003, 09:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A RHINO WITH NO SKIN JUST ATE ME! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sorry, but I must exploit this quote and use it as all references to the Onos here on in. That was funny as hell.
But as for my first game, I was just marvelled by the teamwork. I was fed up with the mindless bulletfest that is more commonly known as Counter-Strike so I loaded up NS and gave it a shot. I never really saw any aliens my first game. I was sitting around in base wondering what I was to do with this welder in my hands. I also found it amazing that people actually worked as a team.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Man i'm gonna get banned or shot or something for saying this, but i never really liked NS. Everything seems so half-thought out, as if they took StarCraft and messed it up a little. I get the feeling that they just took Terrans, and added motion tracking for who knows what. I never got how the aliens were and wern't supposed to work together (again, like starcraft, but they switched something around). I always thought that everything seemed a little out of place, and just added in for the sake of it. Both sides seem to be well rounded and similar to each other (bilebomb - gren launcher, mines - webs, cc - hive, turrets - offence chambers etc. etc.). Clearly, they are unique in some ways (skulk to marine). There are just so many things wrong with this game (imo) that i just can't enjoy it for the few redeeming qualities that it has. I am very sorry to anyone who was offended. Plz don't hurt me, i know a lot of effort was put into this mod and I tried REALLY HARD to make this post as minimally offensive as possible.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
NS 1.0 was, as Monse said in some interview somewhere at some time, a proof of concept. Just to create something that no one would think was possible. 2.0 adds the different strategies and polish that makes NS complete.
The fact that NS is not now complete just tells me how great 2.0 will be.
Dusty, you've showed up on our server a couple times now, which is awesome. I realize I kicked you today, but I'd been waypointing you hither and yon and you were just sitting in marine start, so I figured you were AFK or stoned or combination thereof. Just sayin'.
Anyways, here's how I tell people to learn to comm. Wait for the game where a bunch of people are going "hey, you comm" "no you" "no u" "u" "u" etc. Then go "HAY GUYS I'M NUB BUT I WANT TO LEARN TO COMM" and they'll probably be like "ok". Pick <i>one person</i> as your back-seat comm and listen to him (or her).
Ah those first games. I recall playing NS for the first time on my university college network with no connection to the outside world. On a network dominated by endless games of CS Natural Selection was at first a novelty that no-one really understood. It quickly died because the level of committment and teamwork which the game required did not fit in with the ramboing individualism of CS. Once I moved out of college in November a month or so after NS came out I was able to link to the wonderful world of the Australian NS servers. I fell in love with the game all over again; to be actually playing with compitant players was a dream come true. I also remember my firsrt victory as a commander, leading my team to victory on ns_nancy. Jetpacks were never even seen; it was HA all the way <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> This was, of course, in those mystical days prior to the jetpacks' rise of glory.
Oh, and seige. Christ I either hated or loved seige. Ploking one of those babies down just said "This is my section of the map. There are many sections like it, but this one is MINE" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Dusty, you've showed up on our server a couple times now, which is awesome. I realize I kicked you today, but I'd been waypointing you hither and yon and you were just sitting in marine start, so I figured you were AFK or stoned or combination thereof. Just sayin'.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hehehe, I was afk twice and both of them times was me getting a drink from my kitcen. I told everybody on the main chat I was going AFK for 4 minutes, and please not to kick me. Hehe, I came back and seen the console screen up. I was like "Darn it" so I just joined back. I really like the [Ars] server, good ping and always great action. To be honest, I think it was the first server I stayed on for more than a hour <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I'm not sure if it was the [Ars] server or not (I'm pretty sure it was), but yesterday morning in the stage with Atmospheric Proccesing (Forgot name of map) we had a battle going on for 4 hours!! Finally, the Aliens stormed our CC with 6 Onus. I killed 2 of them with the grenade launcher, but when I realised it was over I commited suicide :-D! I'm going to bed now, I think tommorow I may try and be the Commander. Thx all
<!--QuoteBegin--Arcadius+Jul 29 2003, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Arcadius @ Jul 29 2003, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Spazmatic+Jul 28 2003, 10:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spazmatic @ Jul 28 2003, 10:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->StarCraft is a work of art in the RTS field and to create a RTS game of such a high standard would be near impossible in the Half-Life engine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
NS is better. NS units swear at you when you lose. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> lol. Nice one, Spaz. Welcome, Dsty2001, hope you enjoy your stay. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So do the ones in Z, actually <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
ya, NS is great, It's the only thing that got me into playing any mod on the half-life engine, otherwise i'd be playing something else, my first game I didn't read the manual I just followed other marines around assisting them and I learn real quickly, learning is easy, mastering takes much more time. but I am still not happy with my current skills and wish to improve my self.
The hardest thing was learning the maps. I downloaded it on the 31st and didnt really get it so i uninstalled then reinstalled about 3 months ago and no comms would give me waypoints.
<!--QuoteBegin--Dsty2001+Jul 29 2003, 06:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dsty2001 @ Jul 29 2003, 06:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a Question though, I would really like to be a Commander but the interface has alot of stuff on it. Is there any servers that allows Commander training? I tried making my own server and I was the Comm. but it wouldn't let me do anything. Thanks in advance!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dsty: this is how you can learn to be a commander without downloading bots or annoying real people on servers.
1. Start up a lan game and join the marines. 2. Bring down the console (usually the key below ESC) and type "sv_cheats 1" without the quotes. This allows the game to start with only you playing. 3. Hop in the comm chair and get used to the interface. Drop an infantry portal, hop out and build it. 4. Bring down the console again and type "bigdig". This makes everything build automatically, meaning you don't have to keep hopping in and out of the comm chair every few seconds. 5. Get back in the comm chair and start expanding around the map, building/researching upgrades etc. If you get low on resource points, type "givepoints" in the console. 6. Drop yourself a jetpack/hmg/heavy armor/whatever and go kill the alien hive.
If you like, you can then press F4 and join the alien team. Experiment with the evolutions: go gorge and build some res towers and a hive, then upgrade chambers. Evolve to lerk and fly around. Type "spawnhive" in the console to spawn a new hive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and try out the Fade. Spawn another hive and evolve to onos. Then have fun tearing down the marine outposts you created earlier <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I remember my First time with NS. I had been getting bored with Navy Seals Covert Ops for Quake 3 and was looking around the Mod Data base web site, NS had just been given a big review and I think it made Mod of the month. I noticed this game and all the attention it was getting and I figured it must be good. I DLed it and joined a server. I joined marines and had no idea what the hell I was doing. I saw that all my fellow rines were running around and killing the Skulks, so I followed. I was lost in seconds! I found my self face to face with the Cargo Hive and I didn't know what to do. I started to shoot and all of a sudden a marine runs up to me going 100 KPH and kills my with a knife. I was not very happy about that! I thought I had been team killed. I spawned and now the speed marine is runing around our base, knifing everyone and people are yelling and trying to kill him.
"WHAT KIND OF GAME IS THIS?"
I thought, later I found out it was an explote/bug. I loved the game and played it for 2 months stright everyday I would come home and play for hours on end! Then I left the community and just came back in May, I forgot how much AWESOME this game had!
<!--QuoteBegin--Apotheosis+Jul 29 2003, 03:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Apotheosis @ Jul 29 2003, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dsty: this is how you can learn to be a commander without downloading bots or annoying real people on servers.
1. Start up a lan game and join the marines. 2. Bring down the console (usually the key below ESC) and type "sv_cheats 1" without the quotes. This allows the game to start with only you playing. 3. Hop in the comm chair and get used to the interface. Drop an infantry portal, hop out and build it. 4. Bring down the console again and type "bigdig". This makes everything build automatically, meaning you don't have to keep hopping in and out of the comm chair every few seconds. 5. Get back in the comm chair and start expanding around the map, building/researching upgrades etc. If you get low on resource points, type "givepoints" in the console. 6. Drop yourself a jetpack/hmg/heavy armor/whatever and go kill the alien hive.
If you like, you can then press F4 and join the alien team. Experiment with the evolutions: go gorge and build some res towers and a hive, then upgrade chambers. Evolve to lerk and fly around. Type "spawnhive" in the console to spawn a new hive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and try out the Fade. Spawn another hive and evolve to onos. Then have fun tearing down the marine outposts you created earlier <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nice post Apotheosis.
By doing that you will learn lots of stuff and there is no one yelling at you. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Only bad thing is that, when you get used to the comm's interface, alien "systems" and stuff, the version 2.0 is going to be out and lots of things will be different. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. Bring down the console (usually the key below ESC) and type "sv_cheats 1" without the quotes. This allows the game to start with only you playing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Having never experimented with the cheats, this I did not know. Thank you. I rescind my advice on bots.
I don't remember what my first map was or anything, I just remember being a marine and having the crap scared out of me <b>constantly</b> by Skulks dropping from ceilings and sneaking up behind me. That tappity-tap sound they make would make my skin crawl and I'd get all paranoid walking down hallways.
Eventually I grew to prefer the Alien side, but I believe in balanced teams and do my best to follow orders as a Marine. <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->bots are stupid :/ or atleast those I have <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Try bots, to learn the interface. To learn how to REALLY comm, you'll have to spend some time to learn the strats, and then jump in and pray you don't screw up... No pressure! Just kidding, most people won't mind as long as you let them know... Start with small games.
First advice I heard: "This is an infantry portal. It's really important. Don't let it die." I then died. We didn't lose the portal, though, but apparently we lost the CC instead. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway, I tried to evolve to an onos (thanks tooltips!) but I didnt have enough res so I evolved to a gorge then, luckily most of us on the server was new so they didnt mind <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I cant really remember more, I played NS the next day and the day after, had loads of epic games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Then when it came out, it was definitely Penny Arcade that said "Holy crap, this is sweet! <i>GET IT!</i>" So I did. Things were different back then. Jetpacks were considered a novel method of transportation, not something to swear about if a server-side utility made their owner anything less than invincible. There was no alien ping when all 3 hives were gone, and marines did not feel the need to build on the outside of the map. My enjoyment hit its peak when I learned that even with my moderate cable internet service and lousy FPS skills, I could still destroy structures as a skulk. For me, facing a marine was not exciting, because I knew I was almost certianly going to die before I got within 20 feet of one, but munching on an IP and then hearing the commander log out and start jaunting towards me from around the bend when it was at 15%... THAT was suspenseful! Finding the weak spot in a turret arrangement gave me an evil sense of accomplishment most skulks can gain simply by dropping on a marine and eating his head, which unfortunately I am <i>incapable of doing</i> for some reason. Evolving into a fade and hammering the marine spawn from around a corner... that made me happier than I could immagine. I occasionally got kills, even! Truly, this was a competetive multiplayer HL mod that <i>even I could play.</i>
Now everything is different. The aliens build RT>DEF>HIVE>MOVE because anything else is suicide. Marine relocate to an enemy hive rather than laying down IPs, because, let's face it, defending an empty room is pointless. Defending a hive makes it that much harder for them to get Fades. Nigh-invincible gambits were developed and then nerfed to whatever extent adminmod would allow. Hacks and cheats were discovered and exploited, and then shot down by CD almost before I began to suspect they were a problem, though CD is usually optional for some reason and not required. Horribly faulty bots were developed just as I was starting to get bored with the kharra, and for whatever reason, nearly all servers started running 6 of them at all times. 2 excellent custom maps were released, and then everybody started voting them off the server rotation. About 500 "fun" maps were created, and are for some reason played non-stop on clan and public servers alike.
Now the game is a struggle to get JPs and HMGs before the enemy gets Fades, and vice versa. Games are decided within the first ten minutes if somebody pulls off a really successful rush, and drag on for hours of stalemate if both teams are competent. In this hostile gaming environment, we've all been forced to learn gurellia tactics which, unfortunately, extend to prolonging the game unneccisaily by building IPs in vents, relocating outside the map, or just plain hiding in vents for the hell of it. Flayra added an alien-rot sequence to stop the kharra from doing this, but there are still no plans to do this to the marines, and they now do it <i>constantly</i> on the public servers.
It is my fondest hope that 2.0 will breathe fresh life into Natural Selection. Not just by busting us all down to noob again, but hopefully by truly rewarding diverse tactics and teamplay, and by eliminating cheap tactics as a way of life. I hope that because of all the playtesting, it takes them a lot longer to develop new overwhelming strategems, and to discover new exploits. And I hope that games will be fast enough and rewarding enough that sore loosers will no longer hide in the vents and that smug aliens will no longer leave the Ips alone once the last CC is destroyed just to bemusedly rack up kills.
In short, I hope it's fun again, and I hope it stays that way. My anticipation because the magic <i>might</i> be back in two days is almost overwhelming!
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I'm sorry, but I must exploit this quote and use it as all references to the Onos here on in. That was funny as hell.
But as for my first game, I was just marvelled by the teamwork. I was fed up with the mindless bulletfest that is more commonly known as Counter-Strike so I loaded up NS and gave it a shot. I never really saw any aliens my first game. I was sitting around in base wondering what I was to do with this welder in my hands. I also found it amazing that people actually worked as a team.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Man i'm gonna get banned or shot or something for saying this, but i never really liked NS. Everything seems so half-thought out, as if they took StarCraft and messed it up a little. I get the feeling that they just took Terrans, and added motion tracking for who knows what. I never got how the aliens were and wern't supposed to work together (again, like starcraft, but they switched something around). I always thought that everything seemed a little out of place, and just added in for the sake of it. Both sides seem to be well rounded and similar to each other (bilebomb - gren launcher, mines - webs, cc - hive, turrets - offence chambers etc. etc.). Clearly, they are unique in some ways (skulk to marine). There are just so many things wrong with this game (imo) that i just can't enjoy it for the few redeeming qualities that it has.
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NS 1.0 was, as Monse said in some interview somewhere at some time, a proof of concept. Just to create something that no one would think was possible. 2.0 adds the different strategies and polish that makes NS complete.
The fact that NS is not now complete just tells me how great 2.0 will be.
Anyways, here's how I tell people to learn to comm. Wait for the game where a bunch of people are going "hey, you comm" "no you" "no u" "u" "u" etc. Then go "HAY GUYS I'M NUB BUT I WANT TO LEARN TO COMM" and they'll probably be like "ok". Pick <i>one person</i> as your back-seat comm and listen to him (or her).
Hit your jump key alot.
Oh, and seige. Christ I either hated or loved seige. Ploking one of those babies down just said "This is my section of the map. There are many sections like it, but this one is MINE" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Hehehe, I was afk twice and both of them times was me getting a drink from my kitcen. I told everybody on the main chat I was going AFK for 4 minutes, and please not to kick me. Hehe, I came back and seen the console screen up. I was like "Darn it" so I just joined back. I really like the [Ars] server, good ping and always great action. To be honest, I think it was the first server I stayed on for more than a hour <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I'm not sure if it was the [Ars] server or not (I'm pretty sure it was), but yesterday morning in the stage with Atmospheric Proccesing (Forgot name of map) we had a battle going on for 4 hours!! Finally, the Aliens stormed our CC with 6 Onus. I killed 2 of them with the grenade launcher, but when I realised it was over I commited suicide :-D! I'm going to bed now, I think tommorow I may try and be the Commander. Thx all
NS is better. NS units swear at you when you lose. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol. Nice one, Spaz. Welcome, Dsty2001, hope you enjoy your stay. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So do the ones in Z, actually <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Dsty: this is how you can learn to be a commander without downloading bots or annoying real people on servers.
1. Start up a lan game and join the marines.
2. Bring down the console (usually the key below ESC) and type "sv_cheats 1" without the quotes. This allows the game to start with only you playing.
3. Hop in the comm chair and get used to the interface. Drop an infantry portal, hop out and build it.
4. Bring down the console again and type "bigdig". This makes everything build automatically, meaning you don't have to keep hopping in and out of the comm chair every few seconds.
5. Get back in the comm chair and start expanding around the map, building/researching upgrades etc. If you get low on resource points, type "givepoints" in the console.
6. Drop yourself a jetpack/hmg/heavy armor/whatever and go kill the alien hive.
If you like, you can then press F4 and join the alien team. Experiment with the evolutions: go gorge and build some res towers and a hive, then upgrade chambers. Evolve to lerk and fly around. Type "spawnhive" in the console to spawn a new hive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and try out the Fade. Spawn another hive and evolve to onos. Then have fun tearing down the marine outposts you created earlier <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I had been getting bored with Navy Seals Covert Ops for Quake 3 and was looking around the Mod Data base web site, NS had just been given a big review and I think it made Mod of the month. I noticed this game and all the attention it was getting and I figured it must be good. I DLed it and joined a server. I joined marines and had no idea what the hell I was doing. I saw that all my fellow rines were running around and killing the Skulks, so I followed. I was lost in seconds! I found my self face to face with the Cargo Hive and I didn't know what to do. I started to shoot and all of a sudden a marine runs up to me going 100 KPH and kills my with a knife. I was not very happy about that! I thought I had been team killed. I spawned and now the speed marine is runing around our base, knifing everyone and people are yelling and trying to kill him.
"WHAT KIND OF GAME IS THIS?"
I thought, later I found out it was an explote/bug. I loved the game and played it for 2 months stright everyday I would come home and play for hours on end! Then I left the community and just came back in May, I forgot how much AWESOME this game had!
1. Start up a lan game and join the marines.
2. Bring down the console (usually the key below ESC) and type "sv_cheats 1" without the quotes. This allows the game to start with only you playing.
3. Hop in the comm chair and get used to the interface. Drop an infantry portal, hop out and build it.
4. Bring down the console again and type "bigdig". This makes everything build automatically, meaning you don't have to keep hopping in and out of the comm chair every few seconds.
5. Get back in the comm chair and start expanding around the map, building/researching upgrades etc. If you get low on resource points, type "givepoints" in the console.
6. Drop yourself a jetpack/hmg/heavy armor/whatever and go kill the alien hive.
If you like, you can then press F4 and join the alien team. Experiment with the evolutions: go gorge and build some res towers and a hive, then upgrade chambers. Evolve to lerk and fly around. Type "spawnhive" in the console to spawn a new hive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and try out the Fade. Spawn another hive and evolve to onos. Then have fun tearing down the marine outposts you created earlier <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice post Apotheosis.
By doing that you will learn lots of stuff and there is no one yelling at you. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Only bad thing is that, when you get used to the comm's interface, alien "systems" and stuff, the version 2.0 is going to be out and lots of things will be different. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Having never experimented with the cheats, this I did not know. Thank you. I rescind my advice on bots.
Eventually I grew to prefer the Alien side, but I believe in balanced teams and do my best to follow orders as a Marine. <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Bots let you build, test weapons, etc...