You Know What Would Be Kind Of Cool?

omlette · July 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">ns_nancy related</div> If many / all servers played one last game of ns_nancy, at 12am of July 31st. And do fun stuff too, like relocating to weird places or having 1 on 1 duels. Kind of like an official farewell to such a great map. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Melatonin · July 2003

duels are somthing you dont see enough in NS...
they used to be well big in VS...

Droggog · July 2003

I use ASE to filter maps and i go on servers that are running nancy a lot those last days. I keep telling ppl on servers to enjoy the game cause it's the last days on nancy etc... many people are sad to see it go...

We did a nice jp/welder rush on unnamed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Server admins: modify your mapcycle to something like:

ns_nancy
ns_eclipse
ns_nancy
ns_nothing
ns_nancy
ns_caged
ns_nancy
ns_tanith
ns_nancy
ns_hera
ns_nancy
ns_bast

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

Young_Trotsky · July 2003

So very sad yo see nancy go <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> I really love that one.

Hellbilly · July 2003

R.I.P. Nancy

I will play you all day <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Jabba_The_Hunt · July 2003

yeah nancy was actually my favorite map, and the map which I thought best suited my enhancement pack.

StoatBringer · July 2003

Are there no plans to recreate it from scratch?

(I didn't mind Nancy, except that many of the vents etc. were incredibly difficult to get into as a skulk.)

omlette · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StoatBringer @ Jul 30 2003, 06:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Are there no plans to recreate it from scratch?

(I didn't mind Nancy, except that many of the vents etc. were incredibly difficult to get into as a skulk.)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You can decompile maps, I don't know why they don't do that. You need to retexture it all, but the majority of structures and entities remain correct. If anyone wants to give it a shot, I can upload a decompiled ns_nancy provided no one would mind.

Roobubba · July 2003

decompiling maps often leads to unforseen errors, at least it did back in my mapping days, I don't know about the recent programs though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Roo

omlette · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ Jul 30 2003, 06:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> decompiling maps often leads to unforseen errors, at least it did back in my mapping days, I don't know about the recent programs though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Roo  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Wow, good job on jynxing it. For some reason ns_nancy doesn't enjoy being decompiled. :/

severijn · July 2003

Why does ns_nancy has to go?

Frikk · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (severijn @ Jul 30 2003, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why does ns_nancy has to go?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You'd get stuck walking around as an onos. Didn't have to be anything in your way. That's why it had to go.

I'm all for reviving that map though. I've got found memories.

MuTaTeD_LeMMiNg · July 2003

Mm Nancy was my Fav map, i used to just play that map coz it was the only map that gave good FPS on my
OL' cel 433 Voodoo3 and i would get a standard of 30fps and on maps like eclipse i would get 16-20 Nancy was full on Greatness <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

o yeh decompile it and i'll have a little go at changing it. i'm a bit of an amature map maker but i know some stuff <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

RIP. ns_nancy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

RyoOhki · July 2003

I did ask a while ago why someone didn't just decompile nancy. The answers I got indicated that it would actually be simpler to remake the entire map from scratch. So if someone in the mapping community wants to make nancy-II, then be my guest <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

esuna · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Jul 30 2003, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I did ask a while ago why someone didn't just decompile nancy. The answers I got indicated that it would actually be simpler to remake the entire map from scratch. So if someone in the mapping community wants to make nancy-II, then be my guest <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I think, as much as i like the map and it has many good memories, i'm with the people that think we should let it die. Remaking it, even with a layout and everything already done will still consume a lot of someone's time and decompiling it is useless.

Let's just have our memories.

Majin · July 2003

No esuna
No!
I don't want it to die!
I want to play it again some day!
No other map had a vent system that you could get lost in for days!
No other map had so many references to the Aliens Movies,
No other map had a Hive that lost its name and became even more popular.
Nancy (with its strang name) was one of the best layed out maps in the game.
I hope that someone remakes that map, and makes it even better.
it doesn't have to be a Dev team member, anyone who can map, should redo it. I am sure that if ns_nancy2 showed up on thehivemind, it would get so many DLs the site would crash! Every server would have nancy2 in the cycle so it would only make sence to have the Dev team add it to the next patch. The problem is that no one will ever be able to make nancy2 as good as the first nancy!

But (holds up a beer) Heres to Hoping nancy is remade
we will miss you!

2of12B0RG · July 2003

No. Nancy rules. Remake it.

2of12B0RG · July 2003

[color]** Nuked ** And now your homophobic reference got removed too. Note that the next violation will result in your suspension of posting rights, or permanent ban, depending on how irritated it makes the moderators.[/color]

Frikk · July 2003

Bast has the most Alien references, as far as I can figure.

Reppyboyo · July 2003

some servers aint geting rid of ns_nancy, just need to remember not to go onos.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Lazer · July 2003

Nancy would not be hard to remake. Actually, remaking it could help with getting rid of some of the errors. I'm pretty sure the 2.0 installer is just going to lack having nancy, I don't think it will delete it from your hd. When 2.0 comes out we can try it, maybe its not as bad as we thought.

RustySpoon · July 2003

Badlands of the Fek'Lyrs (24h nancy today) 212.149.105.68:28000

Guess where I'm playin' the whole day? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

ViPr · July 2003

i think there are many people that love NS maps enough that they'd be willing to rebuild them from scratch if they were lost.

Spazmatic · July 2003

Nancy's the most effective map for res denial in 1.04... In fact, it's more or less the only one. Thus, I love it. Plus, hives with no names are sexy.

My_Personal_Insanity · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Melatonin @ Jul 30 2003, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>duels are somthing you dont see enough in NS...
they used to be well big in VS...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Aah, speaking of this topic, here's something that happened spontaniously late one night with some bored players on TheVille 5:

<a href='http://www.theville.org/~mpi/demos.zip' target='_blank'>http://www.theville.org/~mpi/demos.zip</a>

I apologize for how many separate demos there are,
I was a litttttttle paranoid about making one huge
demo and having it end up corrupted somewhere
early on... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

SlothropX · July 2003

Yeah, I think it would hurt the mod to lose a map as good as Nancy. It plays well, has some very memorable areas (mess hall, noname hive, those miles of tunnels), and makes relocation just hard enough. The resource battles are great, since the map doesn't have many absolute choke points that can shield a slew of vulnerable resource points.

Go forth, ye map geeks, and save Nancy!

Guspaz · July 2003

I'm all for "ns_nancy2", a complete remake. Of course, it shouldn't be identical, it should merely be nancy-esque. It should be improved, both technically and visually.

Fieari · July 2003

In nancy were to be remade, these are the things that must remain the same to be fundamentally "nancy"

1. Mess Hall must be of immense strategic importance. It must be in the center of the map, and have rapid access to all three hives, or at least to rooms that can seige the hives.

2. It must have a totally interconnected vent system, such that by entering any vent, you can reach nearly any other vent in the level.

3. It must have doors that don't work, and possibly half broken doors so that you can see into other inaccessable parts of the ship.

4. It must have a nameless hive. That was just cool.

Things that could be fixed in nancy...

1. Make it so you no longer get stuck (the main issue)

2. Hives shouldn't be shootable from vents.

3. No marine has ever welded OPEN a closed vent. So don't bother making it an option. Just leave those vents open, and perhaps make them weldable -closed-.

4. And extension to #3... additional entrances to some of the hives might be nice... placed in a protected part of the room. Make it easier to get the hive back once taken. Make it harder to have a half-hour long last stand in the hives.

Disclaimer: The above is personal opinon.

Major_Chrome · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fieari @ Jul 30 2003, 01:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 3. No marine has ever welded OPEN a closed vent. So don't bother making it an option. Just leave those vents open, and perhaps make them weldable -closed-.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I would love to be able to weld open vents, make it so you can weld them open/close

Freemantle · July 2003

Nancy has always and will always be my favorite map. I absolutley loves subspace command and engine room. I loved the easy acces to noname and te "inverted siphon" that gave JP user's hell. I will miss being able to get anywhere through a vent. I will miss messhall terribly, for countless reasons (mainly because you could always ambush someone if you waited long enough). I will miss distress beacon spawning marines into that side passage. I will miss closing doors behind you as you ran from marines with parasite. I will miss the lerk battles in Cargo Storage. I will miss filling marine base with stinkcloud. I will miss the pathway of triplasers that filled marine base and all connecting walkways. I will miss using chambers to block JPers out of vents. I will miss WOLs near low ceilings. I will miss building sieges in "redvent" outside of engine room. I will miss biting people from under the grating near Marine base.

I will miss a lot.

Please come back to us Nancy

You Know What Would Be Kind Of Cool?

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