Searching For Skilled People For Hl2-mod

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Concept was finished already 2 years ago</div> hi,
one of my friends and I started a mod for HL1 in 2001 but we had to stop this mod cause of several reasons:

- no models (we had a modeler but he never finished anything <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> )
- problems with maps (one of our coder mapped, too. but after all it was to much... and no really god map was the result.)
- the engine was just to bad for our ideas. (we thought of a "halo-style" jeep-part but the physic of the driveable vehicles was too bad)
and some other minor things...

but now with HL2 announced.... we'll started another try <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

we just need a new team for it... the (old) concept is nearly finished now (we just need some more tweaking in the gameplay for HL2 and an update of the weapons that will be used, compared with the new HL2-physics <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> ).

all I can say so far:

It WON'T be another CS-clone, nothing to do with actual military warfare
and yes... it WILL be a sci-fi mod <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
and no we WON'T do any "star wars/star trek/star gate/SST" and other conversation from movies or other games. (due to copyright isues)
But we MIGHT use some idea of this things in the mod. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

rest is top secret for now <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Oh well.... the "WIP name" was "Future Squad Warfare" or "FSW". But I still think there will be another in the final version because we all chose it in 2001 because we found no better name for it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

so... If you want to join our team, plz write a PM or a mail. I'll also set up a temporary homepage, soon. (temporary => for applying and so on until we can finally start with the mod)

uh well... I forgot:
we still need EVERYTHING!
- modeler
- mapper
- maybe another coder ^^
- sprite artists
- etc.
- someone who's good at coding AI also will be needed....

and plz: you should at least know how to use your programs properly. plz NO 100% newbies. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
showing us some of your older work would also be nice. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I also hope I'll get another friend of mine back to the mod - he did the sounds/music <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

that's all for now.... sorry for my bad English... (my main language is German <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> ) have a nice day... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

(yeah... I know... I want SO much and show nearly nothing... but I hope in the end it'll be worth it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> )

Venmoch · May 2003

I could write the story!

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

well we got some kind of... mhm how should I say... "introduction"

but some kind of stories like in the NS manual would be great. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> (for each map and so on)

Venmoch · May 2003

I could do that! (In fact I'd love to do that! Yes I like story writing, sue me!)

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

good to hear <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
think this will be "a deal" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

but sadly a good story is nothing without modelers/mapper/sprite artists and so on that at least develope the mod <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

so no other applications so far? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

TychoCelchuuu · May 2003

People are reluctant to sign on to mods willy nilly, usually. You have to have more then "Sci-Fi Combat" and a name to draw people. Then again, you might find everyone you need like that. I'm busy now, and not the greatest modeller anyways, so I can't help, but good luck!

roachems · May 2003

I can write the manuals
and play test!
wewt

(sorry useless post)

eaglec · May 2003

You say you need everything? So what are you? Project manager? Give us some idea of where things are going and we might consider applying our time and skills but tbh if we had the time to code a mod for hl2 we'd probably be working on our own idea's <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

DOOManiac · May 2003

Well best of luck to you.

Kudos for doing something that you want to do that's not just a clone of some other game.

But I see a problem. You need a whole team of people... So... What are you gonna be doing? :P

Talesin · May 2003

Well, depending on how much time I have after HL2 comes out (^_^), I could give modelling a shot. Already am working my way through college on the 3D Anima track (after finishing the CS/IS one) as I do the core classes I never completed.

So depending on what's needed for a HL2 model, I might be able to do my coursework and at the same time put together a few models for those who need 'em.

Dread · May 2003

I think he's a coder

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>- maybe another coder ^^ </td></tr></table>

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CaptainPanaka · May 2003

well... actually I am the "project manager". I organise everything around the mod and do the PR, the forums, maybe also the HP and last but not least - try to get everything together in the end. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

atm we are 2 - a friend of mine who is a coder (he is also quite skilled with GFX, and can also do a bit in mapping and modelling) and me... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

and for the concept:

I'll try to translate it for you guys into English asap! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Dunsby · May 2003

I could try to make you a site, and im a 99% sprite artist noob,but i would give it a go..

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

so... I translated the concept as good as I could, here is the result (some of the words are "babelfished" - so they may be wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> ):

base concept/ideas:

gamemodes: Similar to C&C Renegade (you have to destroy the enemy HQ)
unites/vehicles: Similar to BattleZone/BattleZone2, Tribes2, Breed/Halo/Planetside and other "Sci-Fi"
weapons: Breed/Halo/Planetside/Sci-Fi
races: "humans" against "humans" (but I thought of genetic manipulated ones) ;-) OR "humans" against "cyborgs" OR "humans" against "mutants" (!?)
classes: Similar to TFC and so on: "normal" Soldier, Engineer, Medic, HWGuy, specialist for vehicle, spy, etc.
ressources: AI-controlled scavangers and/or ressource points on the map which must be conquered (similar to C&C Generals)

concept:
- open area fights (but you'll still have your base)
- TFC-style class system
- Unitlook like BattleZone, Terrainlook and so on similar to Halo, but more "dark future"
- "ressources" (for upgrades etc. needed. You only get Res. if you control one of the res. points on the map - similar C&C Generals) AND/OR AI-controlled scavangers (more => goto "ressources")
- One "Commander", who can purchase upgrades (the commander will be more like a "field" commander - so no overview like in NS, but like BZ)

game target:
- gather resources for upgrades and new buildings
- destroy the enemy barracks/HQ

buildings:
- when you start, you only got barracks/HQ where all players spawn. maybe you'll also have a lvl1 weaponsfactory, where you can only build "low-tech vehicles". (need upgrades for better vehicles)
- Engineers are setting up the buildings (just like the gorge at NS). the commander controls IF he is allowed to build this (prevents problems with res. and building random buildings).
- He can build automatic cannons and all other buildings. the cannons are at "automatic" mode (sensors are used to "track" the enemys) but they can also be manned by the player.
- researchstation, needed for the commander to purchase upgrades

ressources:
- AI-controlled scavengers like Command & Conquer or Battlezone (they'll always be AI-controlles, but you'll be able to get into the "protecting position".
- ressource points on the map, that can be conquered to get res. (maybe you must upgrade to get new class specific abilities - so for example a soldier can "get" the point with special exipment.)
- we didn't thought of "tiberian fields" but we thought of some kind of "tank car" with that you can go to some "oil winding tower" and get the oil inside. than return to base. If a "tanker" is destroyed, it respawns after some time. But in this time, you WON'T get any res! So take care of the scavengers <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

features:
- upgrades via "implants". If researched, each class will get a bonus ability or will upgrade an old one.
- jetpacks (will be available after research for the classes - will work similar to the "Tribes 2" one)
- vehicles (like in Breed/Halo/Planetside/Tribes 2): we thought of:
Scoutbuggys, "drivable rocket carriage", APC (Halo like ;-) ) Anti-Aircraft tank (vulcan or some thing like that), different cannon types can be used, Gears (= "mini mech", similar to the "cybot" at Rival Species or the gears at "Heavy Gear I + II" - will only be drivable if you are a certain class or have a certain upgrade.), a "helicopter-style" aircraft, maybe also a troop carrier version of it. If it's working - we'll also get a "real jet-style" aircraft into the mod. ;-)

so... that's all for now... I hope you are satisfied now <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Insane · May 2003

Looks very interesting, good luck to you.

As for me, I'm going to hold out for a bit (at least until HL2 is out) until I commit myself to anything. I would also like to have a few levels for whatever multiplayer mode HL2 comes with under my belt, so I have a nice concept of the technology and so on.

But good luck with your venture, nonetheless.

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

well... I think there will be "just" DM/TDM like it was in HL1... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

I'm sure there won't be any TFC2 because TF2 will be out march 2004 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Salty · May 2003

I would like to help but I know very little about codding for halflife and other then that im just a no talent **** clown.

Venmoch · May 2003

Hmm

Time to think up some fiction.....

CaptainPanaka · May 2003

*bump* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

CaptainPanaka · July 2003

*bumpdate*

now we also got an IRC channel at Gamesnet (yep the same network where #naturalselection is located <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> ) called #fsw <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

hope to see some of you there, soon!

We are also looking for skilled teammembers to support this project. Coders, Modellers, 2D-Artists and some more mappers are still needed!

If you want to join our team, plz contact me at IRC. I'd also like to see some of your older works than! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

oh btw.... here is the mod's story (written by Venmoch, big thx for that!)

Also big thx to Cpl. Davis for his interest in the mod and his version of the storyline which sadly didn't make it in... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

enjoy! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

The Age of "Future Sqad Warfare" - Chapter I: "The Blue Dream"

War through the past has affected countless individuals. Not one person has survived a war with their entire mind intact. Neither came someone truly say war is a good thing. The path to war has always been engraved in the mind and being of humanity. The basic principle is still the same. Although the nature of it has changed. From simple clubs and tribal warfare to the large scale warfare that was last seen in the 20th century.

Whatever the scale. Whoever the combatants no one can truly say they made it through a conflict unscathed or undamaged. Either mentally or physically. Grown men and women would have their inner being. Their thoughts and dreams ripped out from inside them and then their perceptions twisted around and splintered. In all cases the person is never the same. They will always have the deep fear, the pain and the screams and faces of their comrades haunting them for the rest of their life. Till the day they die. It is the most unfortunate sacrifice people make to the defence of their country or beliefs, and in many cases it is all in vain.

The causes of war are always the same, fear, land and resources. Or even oppression and history has a way of repeating itself.

In the year 2023 mankind finally broke the true meaning of the human genome. They had accurately mapped the entire DNA of the human being. There were celebrations but there were also questioning thoughts. Should this Pandora's box have been opened. Should the human genome still stay a dark mystery? The results were published on the Internet for all to see. Human health never was better and soon all sorts of cures for almost incurable diseases were found and utilized. AIDS was soon eradicated from the well off countries that could afford the complex and expensive treatment in 2025. Then AIDS in the third word was then eradicated in 2026 due to large donations from the world bank and the UN. Life expectancy had risen and life never seemed better.

In the former Middle East however there was still no peace. Splinter groups would fight each other for possession of land. The atmosphere was now feudal and the UN made no attempts to intervene. It was said by a UN spokesman "We are not entering these countries because we perceive the area to be too dangerous" This was to be a nail in the coffin of the civilised world.

In the year 2030 a scientist working for the German science authority called Dr Michael Hoffmann developed the biochemical agent "Blue Dream" by accident. The chemical was designed to prevent cell aging on a molecular level. The results were astounding and unexpected. The human test subject writhed in pain as the chemical bonded with his DNA altering the codes to the cell destroyers, the Lysosomes. In short the RNA in "Blue Dream" caused any cell it made contact with to self-destruct. Usually around the heart and brain. The victim would die in extreme agony. Dr Michael Hoffmann shaken by his discovery and the death of the test subject formally resigned. The biochemical agent was found to be extremely contagious and was locked up deep inside a military bunker. But somehow the knowledge of how to make "Blue Dream" found its way to the war-torn Middle East. It found its way to the desk of the warlord Abdul Riyadh. He was notorious for his ways in achieving power. He would stop at nothing to achieve the goals set out by his government and soon he had one of the largest power bases in the Middle East. He decided to widen his goals dramatically. He said to his staff on the 4th of April 2031. "I will create a whole new war. We will see who will stand against us."

The task was assigned to Riyadh's right hand man Aaqib Mustafaa. A known fanatic. His task was simple. To spread "Blue Dream."

Aaqib took himself to London laden with samples of 2Blue Dream" and found the best place to release it. Piccadilly Circus. With a swift suicide bomb he managed to infect the majority of London The virus spread like wildfire throughout the UK. Killing or maiming most of the population. The UK government was unable to act quickly enough and the day the BBC announced the illness and plague sweeping the nation most of Europe and the USA had also been infected even though strict cordons and quarantines were set up. It would only be a matter of time until the developed world was on its knees. Government fell through and collapsed and the President of the USA Mr Paul Edward Davis gave a radio speech addressing the situation. He died four days later. The speech he gave was this:

"My fellow citizens, I address you on a matter of intense and unfortunate news. As many of you know our allies, the United Kingdom has been infected by a highly contagious disease. This disease, dubbed Blue Dream was created accidentally, by the German scientific authority. However the news I have to bring to you is much more close to home. Blue Dream has infected the United States of America. I believe it to only be a matter of time until the whole of the USA is infected. We are doing everything in our power however I feel it may not be enough to contain it. If I am being honest I fear that the USA may not survive the coming attack. We are staring into the jaws of an apocalypse that I fear we may not have a way out of. The world as we know it will soon cease to exist and I fear we are powerless to prevent it.

May god have mercy on us and protect us."

The virus soon stopped its choking grip on the world and the survivors were soon able to emerge from their hiding places. Once he heard of the damage his virus was causing, Dr Hoffmann set to work in creating an antidote. True to his hard work and efficiency, Hoffmann was able to create and synthesise an antidote. This was then distributed through out the world to try and stop the plague. It worked and soon the only last places needing the antidote were some of the more remote parts of the Middle East and some large remote parts of Asia.

The mastermind of the attack, Abdul Riyadh was killed by the very virus he used in what only can be called an intense irony.

The world was now ripe for people to take. General Bill Masen brought the USA back to a relative speed. He declared the USA a military state and brought it's inhabitants together. The USA soon greeted representatives from the UK, Germany, France and Russia. Bill Masen then set about creating the Western Coalition and it?s militant arm the Western Coalition Forces (WCF).

However this success would be shadowed by a new emerging evil. In Asia, Japan the largest economic power proceeded to restore order. They succeeded however the government was split up over what to do now. Many wanted to use the technique that was so successful in the USA. Where people have hardly any freedom but are kept safe but still keep some civil liberties. Others wanted to return to the old system. It was in this moment that a young woman called Motoko Akagi took the command of situation. She used the argument as a smokescreen and plotted to kill the remaining political members and take control herself. On August the 25th she proceeded to take the governmental buildings in Japan using hostile force killing all the members of the newly formed government. She then using the Blue Dream antidote managed to swing power over to her. She started a new government based on the teachings of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. Whom she all considered men with future beliefs. She ruled over Asia with an iron hand. Killing those who were against her and ruling through fear. If you pleased her or her government you were rewarded. If you failed her in anyway you would be executed in public demonstrations. Soon the Middle East was swung over with promise of the antidote they joined with the New Asia without question. No matter how hard it would be.

Asia with its high tech industry soon managed to arrange a high tech army that outranked the coalition forces in technology. They had access to Japan's latest military technology. The stealth generator. The New Asian Confederation (NAC) was formed and was now a large enough opposition for the WCF. The NAC used their advanced technology on a new special force. Codenamed Bakemono or Spectre. Using the cloaking technology they were able to infiltrate the Coalition bases and kill all inhabitants. An exert from the attack on the UK held base in Siberia is below:

<Pvt Cole> So when?s the training session with Drill Sergeant Wyndham?

<Pvt Coker> I don?t know, I think he said about 18:00 but I can't be certain

<Pvt Cole> I don?t really care anymore, I just want to get off this hunk of ice

<Pvt Coker> Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. So far I've been frozen so many ti-

* Sound of breaking glass

<Pvt Coker> What the hell?

* Sound of rifles being readied

* Screams heard from down corridor

<Pvt Cole> What the **** is that thing!

<Unidentified> Open Fire!

* Small arms fire

* Transmission ends suddenly

The NAC continued with these attacks for a while however the Coalitions high command soon found ways to protect their bases against these raids. Soon there was a stalemate in Russia and many other parts of the world. The world is set for a new breed of war. On one side there is the United Coalition, utilising rough and ready technology and intense training that has proven itself in large-scale conflicts. Pitted against it is the NAC using high tech cybernetics and new and sometimes forbidden technologies with a stern resolve that the NAC can't be beaten and will fight to the death if necessary.

Only time will tell who will have the right to inherit the new world.

Future Squad Warfare: Its time for the new world war...

DOOManiac · August 2003

Holy thread necromancy batman.

erendor · August 2003

I'd love to help out with a mod. I've been wanting to code games for a long time, and i was thinking about a hl2 or hl mod before iw ent onto the big things like MMORPGS. If you'd like, i'm pretty experienced at mapping, and if you'd let me look at the code and explain it to me, i'd be glad to help! I'm in your IRC channel right now, but its empty <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

CaptainPanaka · August 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DOOManiac @ Aug 2 2003, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Holy thread necromancy batman.  </td></tr></table> 
<--- necromancer <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

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343_guilty_spark · August 2003

I you would like me to, i could write a manual or weapons information and what they do. And play test <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> .
PM if you want me to help, some of my fan ficwork can be found in my Sig.

Renegade · August 2003

I could do voice acting! (I just wanna be part of a mod!)

TheFrag · August 2003

iM learning to model :/ If I get good I will help. I think you should also get a concept artist :/

CaptainPanaka · August 2003

ok thx for your interest in the mod. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

but... mhm.... is there no skilled coder or modeller out there...? we'll need at last 1 more each to go... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

343_guilty_spark · August 2003

Ask Flayra for coding <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

TychoCelchuuu · August 2003

Er, about the story:

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Aaqib took himself to London laden with samples of 2Blue Dream" and found the best place to release it. Piccadilly Circus. With a swift suicide bomb he managed to infect the majority of London The virus spread like wildfire throughout the UK.</td></tr></table>

Right. That's all good. Then:

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The mastermind of the attack, Abdul Riyadh was killed by the very virus he used in what only can be called an intense irony. </td></tr></table>

I thought suicide bombs were SUPPOSED to kill whoever used them. Maybe 2023 suicide bombs are special.

And I might be able to do some modelling. PM me.

CaptainPanaka · August 2003

uhm... he WAS killed... so.... 0_o

Aaqib Mustafaa =! Abdul Riyadh <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

moultano · August 2003

I have some skill as a 2d artist, but I'm not going to have the time to be a full time member of a mod team. I love doing textures however, and I'd be more that willing to help out with specific requests for textures, sprites, logos whatever. That goes for anyone, if you would like something done either email me or pm me.

Searching For Skilled People For Hl2-mod

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