Natural-selection Lag.

monkeymaster · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Very Much Laggy. =(</div> well, i know this is a new player section, im kind of new to ns, well im new to nsv2.0 lolz. i was just wondering, if its my MODEM, CONNECTION,LINE OR AREA, that is laggin me. i have dialup and my isp is iprimus, and when i play my pings ussualy about 300, but as soon as i bite or see a marine it goes to 600+ then it goes back down when either i die or they die. is this because ns has bad coding for dialup ? or just because ( all those above things ) .. its impossible to play as alien ( skulking ) or marine when this happens, thats why im always in the comm chair. i cant kill anything at ALL!! when im skulking with 600 ping.
( you cablers are so lucky, i played at this lan center and was gettin 18-25 ping, it was so damn smoooooooof and i was chomping them all up so easyily ) ..

Jane · August 2003

I feel for you man, a bad connection stinks. Ok with my limited computer knowledge I have learned that the more things that are moving around on the screem, the more lag you get. Which is why very often you can run around the map as happy as a clam and then get to base, be ready to munch and BAM lag spike, and you come back in dead. Another reason for the huge jump in ping's might be your video card I know sometimes my fps drop from 60 to 30 when I'm in a room with tons of turrets which is now a very normal occurance. Then sometimes when my fps are jumping around like that my ping jumps around too. It's very starnge because I have cabel but it's a wireless connection so I lag worse then normal, but I normally still have a very good ping (a very unrealistic ping but a low one nonetheless). Even sometimes when I have a 100 or less ping when I'm in a room with a lot of moving things my ping sometimes shoots to 700-800 when I lag. It's wierd but that's just something that I've noticed happens. Good luck with your problems, and have a nice day.

--Jane <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

monkeymaster · August 2003

hmmm, its even weirder now because my computer is pretty fast...

1.7ghz
gffx 5600 128mb ddr
512mb ddr ram.

so i dont think its that, and whats even MOOOORE weirder is that the server that i play on is in perth W.A, and im in perth W.A. its so not fair =(

Clint · August 2003

Only suggestions here are:

- Play from a friends/internet cafe.
- Or make the switch from dial-up, to cable. (If possible)

Other then that, hopefully your problems get fixed up.

SoulSkorpion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monkeymaster @ Aug 5 2003, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> well, i know this is a new player section, im kind of new to ns, well im new to nsv2.0 lolz. i was just wondering, if its my MODEM, CONNECTION,LINE OR AREA, that is laggin me. i have dialup and my isp is iprimus, and when i play my pings ussualy about 300, but as soon as i bite or see a marine it goes to 600+ then it goes back down when either i die or they die. is this because ns has bad coding for dialup ? or just because ( all those above things ) .. its impossible to play as alien ( skulking ) or marine when this happens, thats why im always in the comm chair. i cant kill anything at ALL!! when im skulking with 600 ping.
( you cablers are so lucky, i played at this lan center and was gettin 18-25 ping, it was so damn smoooooooof and i was chomping them all up so easyily ) ..  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
General lagginess is usually due to the server, and is rarer these days. Ping spikes, or random inconsistencies in your ping, are caused by bad connection. Lag which happens predictably and as a result of something you do (such as bite a marine, or see another player, or whatever) is more likely due to bad settings on your end. Find yourself a Half-Life net tweaking guide, it should help you.

Decimator · August 2003

If your provider goes through Qwest that could explain a lot......

Feannag · August 2003

Even us high-speed people have it. You can see entire servers pinging in the 300s and 400s. And this is due to two things.

<b>1. Massive turret/chamber farms</b>

Sometimes in games people will go overkill on making offense chambers and turrets, making massive areas of turrets to help defend. Usually this will lag the server because every turret has a constant animation. Which means it has to send data for each animation to you, the client, every single nanosecond it can. Now, when you get turrets on the map up in the high 50s to even 100s it gets laggy. This is also usually the lesser of the two.

<b>2. Memory leak in code.</b>

This was mentioned in here when 2.0 released, stating there was a very small memory leak. It was recommended to all server admins to reboot their servers once every few days or so, to keep things running well. Well, some admins don't and weeks go by. And as more and more the server's RAM is occupied indefinitely thanks to this leak the server slows down.

Right now those are the only two plausible reasons I can cite. I know it's not my connection, I usually ping 20 - 70 to a server and jump in and it shoots to 300 or so. And everyone in the server pings no less than 250 or so.

SoulSkorpion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Feannag @ Aug 6 2003, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Even us high-speed people have it. You can see entire servers pinging in the 300s and 400s. And this is due to two things.

<b>1. Massive turret/chamber farms</b>

Sometimes in games people will go overkill on making offense chambers and turrets, making massive areas of turrets to help defend. Usually this will lag the server because every turret has a constant animation. Which means it has to send data for each animation to you, the client, every single nanosecond it can. Now, when you get turrets on the map up in the high 50s to even 100s it gets laggy. This is also usually the lesser of the two.

<b>2. Memory leak in code.</b>

This was mentioned in here when 2.0 released, stating there was a very small memory leak. It was recommended to all server admins to reboot their servers once every few days or so, to keep things running well. Well, some admins don't and weeks go by. And as more and more the server's RAM is occupied indefinitely thanks to this leak the server slows down.

Right now those are the only two plausible reasons I can cite. I know it's not my connection, I usually ping 20 - 70 to a server and jump in and it shoots to 300 or so. And everyone in the server pings no less than 250 or so.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
That's not his problem. He said his ping spikes when he attacks something; that's not the same as general server lag due to too many entities.

monkeymaster · August 2003

ok ill try 1 of those half life tweak guid things. also 1 other thing that kind got me thinking that it might be my connection it because when i play cs i ussualy get a ping of 300 and that also spiked when i shoot or when lots of action is around, but it doesnt go to 600. but anyways, thanks for the input, ill try that tweaking guide, i hope it helps.

someone said get cable ??...well thats kind of hard, not because its not available, but simply because i cant afford it = ( ..

monkeymaster · August 2003

oh yeh and i forgot to ask 1 more thing, does the server screw upo after a very very very long game of ns ? because i played a game that went for about 2hours and 30mins the other day, and there was a couple of 20 pingers and after about 30 mins it went to 100's then after the 2hour mark they were at the 300's then when they hit 400 an admin just came in and reset the server. when this happens is it the server ?? or is it because the cablers/adsl'rs are running out of bandwidht or sumfin ?

Natural-selection Lag.

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