Ns_m3rcy

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Just a couple of screenies</div> Well, I can't believe how long it takes to make one of these maps. Believe it or not, I've been working on ns_m3rcy since last year.

Anyone wanna help me finnish it?

Well, I just thought I'd post a couple of screens. Nothing much, just a hive, hall, and marine start; although I do have most of the map finnished, I just didn't take the screens yet <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

<img src='http://onesneakymouse.com/ns_second3420000.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://onesneakymouse.com/ns_second3420003.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://onesneakymouse.com/ns_second3420002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://onesneakymouse.com/ns_second3300000.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://onesneakymouse.com/screens/ns_second700002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Some_tall_guy1 · August 2003

reminds me of halo

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

Never played Halo yet, but believe me, I'm gonna get it when it comes out for the pc. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Sirus · August 2003

Looks good, not much of a fan of that purple. But that hive area ... is soooo win.

loofbote · August 2003

id love to see that map in action XD

Dubbilex · August 2003

Wow.....excellent work, my friend! I especially like the hive-the lighting seems just about as perfect as it could possibly be!

And for reference, this is the area Tall Guy was speaking of:

<img src='http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_026.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

How I wish me had new textures <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>.

Fenrir51 · August 2003

Whoa your map looks great! I'll be waiting for this to come out, love the lighting.

Cagey · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OneSneakYmousE @ Aug 5 2003, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Well, I can't believe how long it takes to make one of these maps. Believe it or not, I've been working on ns_m3rcy since last year.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
In an <a href='http://csnation.counter-strike.net/articles.php/139/1/' target='_blank'>interview</a> last month, Levelord (from Ritual Entertainment) said that maps for Condition Zero are taking about 600 hours apiece to complete... single player maps are a little more complex than multiplayer maps in terms of scripting, but it's still an interesting number to toss around (quote is on the second page).

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

8 hours a day, 40 hours a week.

160 Hours a month....Not bad if you're getting payed to map.

Less them 4 months.

MrMojo · August 2003

Very nice hive area. Looks nice all around.

Dubbilex · August 2003

Hmmm. Didn't notice the fourth picture the first time I looked. I must say-I really like it. The architecture is not bland, there is enough cover, it's big, and most importantly, it doesn't look rushed.

I do however have one problem with it. What's that green and black grid texture on the far wall doing in there? It <i>really</i> doesn't fit the mood, in my opinion <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

PRIMER · August 2003

Purple yes!!!

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

I took the green thing out, it was a forcefield that I put there. I put the green grid to remind me not to forget to make a force field texture. It's not there anymore--that screen shot is actually old, I took that one a while ago. The others are more newer.

moultano · August 2003

That last room looks absolutely huge. Have you checked the r_speeds in there?

OneSneakYmousE · August 2003

Yea, r_speeds in that room are max 500.

Haze · August 2003

You should put more "growth" on the bottem so it makes bumpy terran and such on the huge red hive. It would be far too easy to spawn camp.

Redford · August 2003

Nice brushes, but holy god allmighty, overuse of colored lighting alert.

NerdIII · August 2003

Too much contrast in the shadows I think, on the last pic. Would you mind not making it lit 100% red with such an intensity? There is just no more depth in this room. Light sources and fading intensities usually give you a lot of depth, just like fog would do in other engines.

Dubbilex · August 2003

Honestly? I like that last picture. maybe it's just the angle, or just a great screen, but that looks to be one of my absolute favorite rooms in an NS map. It just looks so.....Half-Life-Transcending.

Meh. just my opinion.

SeraphyGoodness · August 2003

yeah, the hive room does look like it's from a different engine. GJ the artist..

Theres only one little problem i see with it....

The room is far far too big, bigger even than Refinery hive on bast, and more open. R_speeds aside, theres a gameplay issue (or 4) there..

1) direct LOS to hive. Marines have guns remember? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> and they can shoot the hive from the other side of the room...

2) direct LOS to pretty much _any_ alien spawnpoint you choose to add.

3) no cover for aliens to get close to the marines who are shooting the hives and spawns from way over yonder. and even with cover, thats still a hell of a way to travel unless you blink.

4) 'nade spammer's paradise. anything on the floor is dead from a GL or 2 on the catwalks..

Don't get me wrong, the lighting is teh secks, the architecture is sweet as can be, and the atmosphere is nice and threatening. I like the look. I just don't think it will make for good gameplay.

scale wise, it'd feel more cramped, scary, claustrophobic and NS-like to me if it were at a scale closer to this: (white blob is a hive)

NerdIII · August 2003

lol to me it looks too MUCH like the Half-Life engine.
1. The high contrast shadows look like stairs
2. No fog in the distance
3. Looks like some hl deathmatch level I played years ago.

With all that infestation, how does the emergency light still work? And why is it the only detail on a flat ceiling?

That's just my uber harsh critisism. I'd like to see some detail moved to the ceiling and less contrast in the shadows. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

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