Other First Person Strategy Games

CioCioSanCioCioSan Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19235Members
Are there any other games out there like NS?

If this is the first game in the genre, Flayra, I gotta hand it to you, Ive been waitin for one of these for a LOOOOONG time...but if there are other games out there like this, Id like to know so I can check em out...

Thanks,

-Cio
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  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Savage.

    Its coming out soon.
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    C&C Renegade

    Savage (soon)
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Dungeon Keeper <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DaemonlaudDaemonlaud Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11637Members
    Renegade is the closest really...
    And it is damn good - slightly more emphasis on personal tactics, less on overarching strategy.

    But tremendous fun - if you were ever a C&C buff <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Eat Obelisk f00l! Oh Yer?? Keep talking while the treads on my mamm tank squish the gooey **** out of you...
  • The_Real_QuasarThe_Real_Quasar Has the I.Q. of 12,000 P.E. Teachers Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9998Members
    Battlezone is, as far as I know, the first ever "FPRTSS". In it, you are a pilot capable of driving anything built by your factories. You can order construction vehicles to build structures all in a first person view.
    It's pretty fun, but my disc got scratched <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Thinking about it, it's a lot like playing as aliens...
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Renegade was/still is fun. Haven't played for a while though. Engineers + APC = Dead enemy base. Get two or more APCs (or transport helicopters) full of engies and you can destroy their base like a jp/hmg combo would destroy a hive in 1.04 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    Yes, Battlezone would have to be the most memorable, great storyline to it as well.

    Battlezone 2 on the other hand, wasnt as crash hot. If you wanna play a good game from '98 then BZ is the way to go <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    There was a game from MS too, "Urban Assault" IIRC. Never liked the command interface, and vehicle control just didn't feel right. Later levels had too many enemies coming too fast, so there was no time for tactics and no way to make a difference by doing some fighting yourself (could be quite succesful, but while you were owning the AI your other forces got slaughtered). So it basically always ended with some sci-fi equivalent of the human wave attack, over and over again, meeting in the middle between two bases. A contest of who could pump out reinforcements faster than the troops would go down. I don't think it was a big success, but it got bundled with some MS jousticks.

    Heavy Gear II. First-person mech game, but with an overhead map to give commands and waypoints to your squad. Excellent game.

    Dungeon Keeper (already mentioned). Sim City gone evil, and you could posess your recruits. Of course, sacrificing, torturing, imprisonment and starving them to death were more fun (first person part wasn't done that well, lousy graphics and didn't make much difference in fights) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Several tank sims have this. iM1A2, M1TP2, Steal Beasts.

    Some tactical shooters like Rainbow Six, but in that case the planning tends to come before the action. Recent sequels (Ghost Recon) allow waypoints during the action. Some flightsims (with dynamic campaign) also have a pre-mission planning phase, where you can see the whole war going on, enemy locations, and decide where you will be striking next (while the AI players on your and the enemy side do the same).
  • JuNgLiStJuNgLiSt Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17508Members
    edited August 2003
    Planetside! I haven't check it yet, but it looks amazing!

    check it!

    some pics: (scroll down the page) <a href='http://forum.hardmob.com.br/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228067&highlight=planetside' target='_blank'>http://forum.hardmob.com.br/showthread.php...ight=planetside</a>
    download: <a href='http://www.fileplanet.com/download.aspx?f=127374' target='_blank'>http://www.fileplanet.com/download.aspx?f=127374</a>
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    I love the NS "genre" games. However what I can't stand are games that charge you to buy it and then charge you each month. IMO either you buy the game or you dowload it for free and pay as you play. Combining the 2 is just greedy.
  • Mutant1Mutant1 Join Date: 2003-07-11 Member: 18092Members
    theres also savage.
    its not out yet tho, i think its currently in beta

    after watching the trailer it looks prity impressive and seems to take fprtss to a higher lvl.


    <a href='http://www.s2games.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.s2games.com/</a>
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    Forgot one: Tribes 1 and 2!

    Great game, and it had a commander interface for every player. This unfortunately meant it was rarely useful, as it'd be hard to know where to go when everyone on your team could give waypoints. So generally waypoints weren't given. You could also use the system to manually control remote cameras and guns, which was very useful (for example, the AA guns only tracked air targets when the AI controlled them, but under manual control you could waste nearly anything with that rapid fire monster).
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2003
    alliegence. It's just like NS, only is space. And stuff. And it's free now!

    <a href='http://www.alleg.net' target='_blank'>http://www.alleg.net</a>
  • Pr0phecyPr0phecy Join Date: 2002-04-04 Member: 381Members
    not to sound like a nublet..but i cant find the dl link,I went to downloads and found nothing of interest for the client,Please enlighten me!
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    Natural Selection is, imho, the first TRUE FPS/RTS, with the possible exception of Renegades, which I find icky because I'm not a C&C buff. Battlezone, while lotsa fun, misses the unifying view with regards to both occuring simultaneously, namely RTS control of FPS players. Then there's Savage, which is coming, and doesn't look all that great.

    On an only semi-related note, the not-true FPS/RTS Urban Assault, by Microsoft, was entertaining if nothing else... Waves of robot helicopters being smashed into each other is freakin' hilarious.
  • SmellyMeatSmellyMeat Join Date: 2003-08-08 Member: 19205Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JuNgLiSt+Aug 9 2003, 09:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JuNgLiSt @ Aug 9 2003, 09:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Planetside! I haven't check it yet, but it looks amazing!

    check it!

    some pics: (scroll down the page) <a href='http://forum.hardmob.com.br/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228067&highlight=planetside' target='_blank'>http://forum.hardmob.com.br/showthread.php...ight=planetside</a>
    download: <a href='http://www.fileplanet.com/download.aspx?f=127374' target='_blank'>http://www.fileplanet.com/download.aspx?f=127374</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Planetside is one of the best games out there i think. A MMFPS. Basically. There's 3 teams. 10 or so islands. Each have there own look to them. Then there's base's, and Tower's, and what not. Then you hack into bases, and take them over so people can spawn there. You can level up by killing people or hacking bases. You learn to be an eng, and fix stuff. Or learn how to fly plane, or vechiles, or sniper, or be a better hacker(there's other stuff to this). It's really good when you have a joined attack. Like have planes drop bomb's on a base, then have fights take out someguys. Then have ground troops go in, and take it over. I highly highly suggest this game.
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    Planetside sounds good, but I won't be playing it.

    P2P is just bad.


    I'm getting Savage as soon as it hits the local shelves.
  • SmellyMeatSmellyMeat Join Date: 2003-08-08 Member: 19205Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--homerx+Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Planetside sounds good, but I won't be playing it.

    P2P is just bad.


    I'm getting Savage as soon as it hits the local shelves. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you talking about P2P as person 2 person? Or what?
  • lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
    About alliegance, it says it's an open beta in progress. Beta generally means that in return for free playtime, you are acting as a tester. Now are you sure it's not gonna get finished, and then go commerical, Redford?
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmellyMeat+Aug 9 2003, 03:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmellyMeat @ Aug 9 2003, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--homerx+Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Planetside sounds good, but I won't be playing it.

    P2P is just bad.


    I'm getting Savage as soon as it hits the local shelves. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you talking about P2P as person 2 person? Or what? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pay to Play (I think)
  • JamlJaml Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9054Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmellyMeat+Aug 9 2003, 05:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmellyMeat @ Aug 9 2003, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--homerx+Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ Aug 9 2003, 10:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Planetside sounds good, but I won't be playing it.

    P2P is just bad.


    I'm getting Savage as soon as it hits the local shelves. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you talking about P2P as person 2 person? Or what? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think he means pay to play or P2P
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
  • orioncsorioncs Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19258Members
    return to castle wolfenstein: enemy territory

    its a free multiplayer online FPS game and its pretty fun. free dload, free to play. WW2 setting, same engine as RTCW but different class (medic, covert op, soldier) system. No aliens, but you can steal enemy uniforms and stuff. check out castlewolfenstein.com and hit the 'enemy territory' heading for more info and files.
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Silver Fox+Aug 9 2003, 06:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Aug 9 2003, 06:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Savage.

    Its coming out soon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I got in the beta of that. Complete crap if you ask me :/ I gave my account away.
  • sekdarsekdar Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9564Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--JuNgLiSt+Aug 9 2003, 09:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JuNgLiSt @ Aug 9 2003, 09:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Planetside! I haven't check it yet, but it looks amazing! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    stay FAR, FAR away from this game. its horrible. there are tons of weapon imbalances (for example one empire has only 3 good weapons), over 100 known bugs that have been complained about for 4 months, gameplay gets amazingly repetitive after two weeks, and the devs are unbelievably ignorant and clueless as to how to fix problems. the community sucks, too. it's already on its way out (people are leaving in droves, there is only about 30% of the original playerbase from 4 months ago), and its just not worth it.

    oh yea, and its $13 a month to play. trust me and dont touch it.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    NS is, like all the titles you mentioned, a gerne hybrid. I think Flayra deserves the honor of having integrated both aspects the most throughoutly, with most other games leaning on one of the two sides.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    That's why Flayra's our god.

    Remember? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spazmatic+Aug 9 2003, 10:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spazmatic @ Aug 9 2003, 10:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Natural Selection is, imho, the first TRUE FPS/RTS, with the possible exception of Renegades, which I find icky because I'm not a C&C buff. Battlezone, while lotsa fun, misses the unifying view with regards to both occuring simultaneously, namely RTS control of FPS players. Then there's Savage, which is coming, and doesn't look all that great.

    On an only semi-related note, the not-true FPS/RTS Urban Assault, by Microsoft, was entertaining if nothing else... Waves of robot helicopters being smashed into each other is freakin' hilarious. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh yes, Urban Assault certainly was entertaining in the beginning. The huge clashes were nice. But when it's that way mission after mission, it gets old quick. The first-person mode didn't add that much to the game, so I prefer a game of Total Annihilation (against the slightly demented CPU player) instead when I want to see huge armies being turned into smoking rubble at an appalling rate. Besides, TA offers more strategy, looks a lot better, and has the Kroggie <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    (My all time favourite game... they don't make them like that anymore... sniff...)

    And now, for yet another RTS/FPS hybrid: Hostile Waters, Antaeus Rising.
    Only played the demo, but it looks very polished.
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--lazygamer+Aug 9 2003, 11:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lazygamer @ Aug 9 2003, 11:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> About alliegance, it says it's an open beta in progress. Beta generally means that in return for free playtime, you are acting as a tester. Now are you sure it's not gonna get finished, and then go commerical, Redford? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think it is. Haven't played it myself yet, but I've been looking around on that site. Basically, it used to be pay for play, owned by Microsoft. MS then dropped support and servers for the game, but instead of letting the whole thing die completely some players made their own servers. The beta is not for the game itself but for a new anti-cheat login system to be used on those player-owned servers.
  • elchinesetouristelchinesetourist Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--orioncs+Aug 9 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (orioncs @ Aug 9 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> return to castle wolfenstein: enemy territory

    its a free multiplayer online FPS game and its pretty fun. free dload, free to play. WW2 setting, same engine as RTCW but different class (medic, covert op, soldier) system. No aliens, but you can steal enemy uniforms and stuff. check out castlewolfenstein.com and hit the 'enemy territory' heading for more info and files. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTH it's free

    ok off I go then
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