Noob Marine Teams
Frenchman
Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19323Members
Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19323Members
I have only been playing NS for a couple days now, and I've been reading posts and playing games for a good portion of that time. One thing that has stuck out to me more then anything though is the noobishness of the marine team many times. Obviously this has been pointed out in many other posts as a source of why the marines apparently seem to die most of the time.
What really bugs me though is these vets that complain about it. I have but one thing to say to you: STOP COMPLAINING AND JOIN THE MARINE TEAM. You are always complaining and it seems that it's always one vet and a team of noobs. Well instead of rushing to the alien gate every time like you are now, rush to the marine gate. Stack the marine team with vets and see how that works. You can all obviously make it there before the silly noobs because the alien team is always seemingly full of people who were playing NS before the birth of Christ.
In short, the marine team is full of noobs because all the vets join the alien team, so fix the problem yourselves and stop whining. Then perhaps we can actually see what's wrong with the game and fix it. It's quite easy to blame the comms or the rambos or whatever but in the end it's that none of the "team players" join the team-playing orientened side.
I welcome any comments and flames, but try to keep it above the level of "oMg n00b!!!!111!! you should stop whining!!111!!!" I've played a lot of FPS's and I've even commed one game (we were doing well but my crappy computer crashed and I couldn't get back into the server) so while I don't have years of NS experience, I do have some. Plus I can read, and I do read these forums, which are a good insight into the minds of the "community" and the problems they are seemingly having.
What really bugs me though is these vets that complain about it. I have but one thing to say to you: STOP COMPLAINING AND JOIN THE MARINE TEAM. You are always complaining and it seems that it's always one vet and a team of noobs. Well instead of rushing to the alien gate every time like you are now, rush to the marine gate. Stack the marine team with vets and see how that works. You can all obviously make it there before the silly noobs because the alien team is always seemingly full of people who were playing NS before the birth of Christ.
In short, the marine team is full of noobs because all the vets join the alien team, so fix the problem yourselves and stop whining. Then perhaps we can actually see what's wrong with the game and fix it. It's quite easy to blame the comms or the rambos or whatever but in the end it's that none of the "team players" join the team-playing orientened side.
I welcome any comments and flames, but try to keep it above the level of "oMg n00b!!!!111!! you should stop whining!!111!!!" I've played a lot of FPS's and I've even commed one game (we were doing well but my crappy computer crashed and I couldn't get back into the server) so while I don't have years of NS experience, I do have some. Plus I can read, and I do read these forums, which are a good insight into the minds of the "community" and the problems they are seemingly having.
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I agree with what you're saying, although I'm not sure that vets always stack aliens. If good people went marines and showed everyone how it must be done, then perhaps we can get more confidence about the marines' abilities to survive.
The way i attribute this is because the aliens are practically an entire new redesign, while the marines are pretty much the same as before. So the old players all want to play the exciting new aliens and/or they all know that aliens do a lot better in the pubs and most experienced players always choose to join the winning side.
The point is: noob alien vs vet marine == marine win and noob marine vs vet alien == alien win. So why don't we work on smoothing that out before we try to figure out what's really wrong with 2.0...
but anyways, wats a vet ? ? ...
any person or persons thats not a n00b
I agree with what you're saying, although I'm not sure that vets always stack aliens. If good people went marines and showed everyone how it must be done, then perhaps we can get more confidence about the marines' abilities to survive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah clan marines loose due to fast alien expansion. But i dont understand why they dont simply make the aliens start only with 20 res. So they have to make some kills before all map res are capped. And with 20 res you could still instantly drop an upgrade chamber. Instead they implement such funkillers like evoling only in hive range and full damage of hmgs vs buildings. With every new beta patch they release i get more and more the impression they are under xtreme pressure to fix balance and try stuff on a random basis cause they have no idea how to fix the problems. They make major chances from 1 version to the next that produce new imbalances instead of changing some numbers and doing minor tweaks to the present 2.0 system which with good teams on both sides seems pretty balanced and great fun. Basically the 6 months of beta testing were useless if they make so much huge changes so short after release. 2.01c plays as a totally different game then 2.0 already.
I think you just owned everyone.
You see quite a bit of stacking on some servers. SNM, for example. When four SNM's, a miscellaneous fairly good guy, and two good team players join up against a Khaara team including two guys asking "how do I play?", you know what's gonna happen!
But, yeah, sure, this is a bandage for the moment, however... Is it really a solution in the long-term? Should you require insanely good players stacking 'rines to win with any sort of confidence?
Also, please don't use "vet". First, it refers to the uber clans involved in testing 2.0. Second, no one's a veteran of 2.0 (except them), but rather, "experienced NS player who can rtfm and knows enough to be adapative to new play situations plus has some experience with 2.0 preferably including marine victories". Probably best abbreviated as non-utter-nub.