No Building Outside?

goof · August 2003

i was playing on ns_hera today and i was outside near the landing pad thing near the marines starting res. and i was building as a gorge up on the glass bridge part that goes into the rockface. and a admin said don't build outside. i was just wondering if building outside is an exploit? its not like i had to exploit my way through a wall or anything.

monkeymaster · August 2003

well it depends what admins and server define as an exploit, some server have banned using the gren launcher cause they think its an exploit. but ide say when you on that server dont build outside cause the cry baby admin might ban ya.

personally i dont think its an exploit, i just think it would be anoying for the marines. although all they need is a seige and your gone =).

goof · August 2003

seige is a waste all i do is gorge a few dcs up there, where the marines cant shoot them. and go fade, when i'm shot blink up and get healing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

lolfighter · August 2003

In 1.x it was an exploit, as you couldn't get outside without abusing the /stuck command or something similar. In 2.0 nobody can touch you - but of course, the admins can still ban you.

StoatBringer · August 2003

If a marine with a jetpack flew over to the glass bridge could they also build on it?

Seems to me that if the map designer deliberately left that area easily accessible to both teams it can hardly be called an exploit. There are plenty of other parts of the outside of hera that are inaccessible.

monkeymaster · August 2003

hmmmz.... well i still dont think its an exploit. its just the same if there was a vent there, i say do it all you want as long as u dont get banned, if you do get banned descuss it with the head admin of that server. i dont think admins should make there own rules and define what is and isnt an exploit, if its in the game, USE IT! or DO IT! and if they dont like you doing/using it, then they have to wait till the next version comes out and then maybe there so called *exploit* will be gone.

Creepie · August 2003

If an area can be gotten to using standard means (flying, wallwalking), then by all means, build there. However, if /stuck is used or a <i>known flaw</i> in the map, then as an admin I would take issue with the offenders.

[Cult]Creep.

SuB · August 2003

No, it's not an exploit.

Just cheap admins <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Redford · August 2003

<sarcasm> No, of course making use of a glitch in NS' code that allows you to delay games infinitly isn't an exploit, silly. </sarcasm>

Maus · August 2003

Since walking on the glassis difficult for a high-pinger, I'd guess tat the mapper didn't put a solid brush out there because he didn't expect people to sit out there much. In that sense it's an exploit, but I do very much like annoying marines by having a sneaky healing station up there.

MMZ_Torak · August 2003

If an admin decides that using the phase gate is an exploit (however stupid it might be) on their server it's an exploit. Simply don't play there. It doesn't make them a "cry baby admin", but it does make for lame games. Stupid rules will make for an empty server.

Majin · August 2003

Its not an explote in anyway, if the mapper didn't want you to be able to get on there, he would have added Clipping all over the area, to keep you on the pad.
thats why you should always have a Siege in base, incase they get out on the glass!

meanie · August 2003

i don't care if you build outside..

i shot you down goof.. then the other marines naded your 2 dcs anywayz..

Turkey2 · August 2003

I think the problem is since it was an exploit in 1.04 people still view it as such. It is kinda stupid and annoying but may become a valid tactic you never know. Going for processing (1.04) was at first a valid tactic and pretty automatic for marines, then it was viewed as lame, and of course subsequently an exploit as people felt you shouldnt be able to siege 2 hives at once.

Guspaz · August 2003

Yes, it is an exploit, mainly because it's considered (by leagues) that building outside the map is an exploit. Just because you don't have to use stuck to get there doesn't make it legal; exploiting a bug in the map is still exploiting.

Fieari · August 2003

But Guspav.... it's <i>not</i> outside the map. That's the point. The mapped opened up the ability to go outside. Skulk or lerk to get to the glass bridge, then gorge. Jetpacks or seige can take it out. I'm not certain, but I think there might even be line of sight between the landing pad and the bridge. The marines might be able to just shoot at the chambers from there. Could be wrong about that though, I'd need to check.

SlayerOfSkulks · August 2003

Guspav and Redford, don't forget that in the 2.0 version of the map, it's no longer a case of that area only being accessible by glitch... there is now a landing pad style area outside marine start, and any skulk who gets out there can simply wall-climb around to there. No glitches required; the map is now *designed* like that.

Grimm · August 2003

If an area is accessible withought having to use /stuck, then its inside the map and its fair ground.

JesusC · August 2003

People should cease mixing "outdoors" with "outside the map". Semantics can't save you now, end of story.

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