Turrent Farming Must Die

Epidemic · August 2003

It must die, I agree..
When people just prepare a turret farm in advance on purpose there is something wrong

Epidemic · August 2003

Turrent is a Smart bomb relic, let it live in peace <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

RyoOhki · August 2003

How many times must we say it: turrets are not the problem. The featured screenshot was pathetic: i've seen bases with that many turrets sure, but only 1 gl spammer? Good base spams here in Australia have at least 4 gl spammers, more usually the whole team, plus 3-4 armouries to keep those guys in endless ammo. It's the gl's that screw the aliens over: how do you bile bomb when you have to walk through AT LEAST TWO grenade explosions to even get within range? Skulks, forget it. Lerks, yeah right. Fades, if you are VERY lucky can actually make it to within SIGHT of the turrets, at which point even with carapace they're dead. Oni are the only thing that can actually survive to reach the base, and surprise surprise they draw the attention of the OTHER gl spammers. Trust me, no matter how motivated or co-ordinated the aliens are, against the right set-up it's an endless stalemate until one side F4s or the marines have enough res to push out in HA.

Epidemic · August 2003

The base had 2 GLs, standard.
AND TURRE<b>N</b>TS IS A PROBLEM, GL JUST INCREASES THE PROBLEM

RyoOhki · August 2003

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<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>STOP IT! FOR THE LOVE OF FLAYRA EVERYONE STOP SAYING TURRENTS!!!!!!!!!!!</span>

Epidemic · August 2003

<span style='font-family:Times'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>TURRENTS TURRENTS TURRENTS</span></span>

The_Finch · August 2003

Bilebomb doesn't work in these situations <b>because you can't get through the spam.</b> It has a painfully short range which means you have to expose yourself to fire. Between turrets, GLs and non-GL marines, you can't effectively bilebomb anything. Unless you actually kill the turret, you've done nothing, since it will just be welded again. It's not some secret weapon that comms know nothing about.

On a side note, that farm isn't that bad. Double the number of turrets isn't uncommon.

Vash · August 2003

Just a note, I did spell it TURRENT on purpose.

So hah.

include · August 2003

Bilebomb it away, umbra rush, or as someone said, blink past it all and take out their CC.

You act like 1 gorge should be able to take it all.

Here's a hint....get a couple of onos to go in and take the fire as your 5 gorges bilebomb the crap out of everything.

SinSpawn · August 2003

People who say Turrents just proves their intelligence, especially those who make major mistakes in one post, the never forgotten idiot "Snipermarine" the guy who would make a mistake in every post

Speed_2_Dave · August 2003

we played a long-drawn out game on NS_veil. We had just crushed the marine's last extra resource node, and ran in to check out their base. The marines squished us, and immediately dropped GLs. I think 3 of them, soon to be 4-5. They did an armory crawl, dropping new armories every 10 feet so that the GL'ers can continue their spam. They did this for about 2 minutes, when we cracked the other side (now that there were few marines IN the base to shoot at us, we took advantage of that fact), and ended the game.

Whenever they turtle up in their base.. lame up just outside of the base and try to take them out. when that fails, just fall back, build lame in layers (a little further back, and a little further back) on each side of the marine base. Eventually, they'll overextend themselves, and you can crush them with 6 cows (onos).

Try that strat. If they don't leave their base, then they aren't playing the game and you can go AFK, get something to drink, whatever. OMG F4'ing is lame! Sorry, had to say it.

The best solution I have for this situation is for the commander to ask his marines if they want to do a slow crawl out of their base. If the answer is no, then don't do it, let the aliens get their victory, don't make them take forever just to do what everyone knew was going to happen. If the marines want to keep fighting, lame up, tech up, and move out. If the aliens haven't killed you by then, they deserve whatever comes to them.

Untitled · August 2003

Alright people, I don't think the game needs any tweaking what so ever, infact, I think its the maps that need tweaking.

Most Marine starts have only aprroximatly 2 entryways, and those entryways are most likely small enough for people to nade spam it effectively. Hence thats why relocating to Atmo (ns_bast) is a BAD idea. Less doorways to protect, the less you need to spread your defenses outward. So, if some kind mapmaker would take this onto consideration when creating Marine Start location, I think stalemates would be a lot less lame.

NeoMatrixj2 · August 2003

turrets now do half damage vs onos and ocs to half dmg vs HA in 2.01d so its all good now.

Untitled · August 2003

I just don't think the game needs any tweaking what so ever. You just need to make much more balanced maps, with equal or accessability for Marine and Alien alike.

Epidemic · August 2003

While I agree it's an improvement, there will be turret farms with this patch as well.
Turre<b>n</b>ts blocks the onos' movability while the marines are shooting at it/gl spamming it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Ahnteis · August 2003

One note - bile bomb goes further if you jump as you shoot it. (Like grenades in CS)

GoldenShadow · August 2003

marine res for kills should be increased, not removed. remember they are the weak team.

Syringed · August 2003

You know how you can correct turret farming lamers who purposely make the end games last forever with 2 GLers, CCs in the doorways, & 30 turrets in base? BAN THEM. I really do think if a bunch of comms started to get some bans from admins on servers for this then there would be less 3 hour stalemates brough down by the marines. I know this sounds "extreme" but stalemates are being brought almost every game by moronic comms who refuse to upgrade weapons, expand, take hives, go for choke points & instead farm the hell out of base. This is horrible teamplaying & I'd be more than happy to never see them in a NS game again.

elchinesetourist · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SinSpawn @ Aug 15 2003, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> People who say Turrents just proves their intelligence, especially those who make major mistakes in one post, the never forgotten idiot "Snipermarine" the guy who would make a mistake in every post  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
now now he's a lot smarter than you.. think

besides it was jokelike, I can't believe I'm wasting my time to tell you what you should be able to see for yourself

there's enough repetitious cr4p on here; sniper's posts rule

naMsdrawkcaB · August 2003

The best thing you can do when that happens is tell the server admin. The turret farm/gl spam happened on voogrus server and i just went on irc and told voogru to stop it and he specced and slayed anybody who started spamming/armory humping and told the comm to not build any more turrets or be slayed

LHarm · August 2003

I think that aliens should get a bile tower to go with the <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> that the <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> have.
And gorges might should have a resorource costinh healt spray that sticks to that wall for another alien to eat.
LOL me and my brother went turret worming today aginst bots.

its was like this
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'>
its how we killed that last hive

the_draft · August 2003

O/T

Can someone tell me where to download that siege replacement? I looked in the models forum but couldn't find it.

Turrent Farming Must Die

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