Ns Sux!

SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
edited August 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">another NS game....</div> OMG YES this is another Complain thread! =X

After 1+ hour game, I couldn't take it anymore and I quit the game cause It would last for ever.

OMG NS =X (<b>N</b>ade <b>S</b>pam) SUX!

It just started with 2 GLs, armory and ip, 20 minutes after the game started.
50 minutes later, when I left, they had 6 armories, 5 Tfs, turret farm and Heavies.

4 marines constantly spamming the 2 doors. we tried to rush them with 5 onos, we could only kill like 2-3 turrets, and 2 marines, and died.
Lerks or fades couldn't even get close to the doors, as they were dying immediately.


<img src='http://www.autominer.org/delta/CustomMaps/spam1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://www.autominer.org/delta/CustomMaps/spam2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<img src='http://www.autominer.org/delta/CustomMaps/spam3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


<a href='http://www.polarhome.com:793/~sjn/nadespam.zip' target='_blank'>DEMO</a> !!!!!!

I <b>hope</b> this will be fixed in 2.1!
Peace

-SjN

->> <b>edit</b>
a thread was made by optikal a bit earlier, about the same game. I guess he posted it while i was converting and uploading screenshots/demo
and my bad. after watching his demo i noticed there were 7 nade spammers. 9vs9 game.
<a href='http://www.teamng.org/grenade_exploit2.dem' target='_blank'>Demo by optikal</a>
he said he had no problems with nade exploit, well ofcourse, he was the one who was spamming nades =X

Comments

  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    Why not just blink a whole team of fades past the grenade fire?
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ben128+Aug 20 2003, 01:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ben128 @ Aug 20 2003, 01:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why not just blink a whole team of fades past the grenade fire? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you won't survive. Trust me.

    The only solution I know works 100% of the time is to wait them out. Or tell the marines exactly what they're doing (nothing, prolonging the game pointlessly). Usually there are 4 decent human beings on each team, and that's enough for an auto-concede vote when such lame occurs, or a kick commander vote, so that the armories will be scrapped, HMGs dished out, and one last stand to be made, before the marines lose.

    Aliens have the ping of death, and marines have sieges.. the converse of a marine problem cannot, ideally, exist. (I know this wasn't mentioned, but I figured I'd mention why you never see aliens doing this)
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    edited August 2003
    I suggest someone lock this, pronto... Trolls are about... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    [edit] but yes, its hard to do [(and by do i mean terminate)] this. usually 4 decent ppl on each team like Speed 2 Dave said. onos rush is worth a shot too, if asking them to concede doesn't work.[/edit]
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maveric+Aug 20 2003, 01:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Aug 20 2003, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I suggest someone lock this, pronto... Trolls are about... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yea lock this. cuz we all love this lame nade spam tactic!! so stop complaning.
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    Man, it's like the John Madden of NS!

    Max
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why not just blink a whole team of fades past the grenade fire? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The glers seemed to be in HA, plus the turrets will shread Fades in seconds. And even if you get one gler down, someone just replaces him: net accomplishment is nothing. You also have to get THROUGH the continuous explosions to reach the HA: that's gonna strip your health. A proper GL spam can't be broken.
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    a thread was made by optikal a bit earlier, same game. I guess he posted it while i was converting and uploading screenshots/demo

    <a href='http://www.teamng.org/grenade_exploit2.dem' target='_blank'>Demo by optikal</a>
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    Oh who gives a flying lerk. Seriously is your life so empty and boring that you have to make threads about ONE bad incident in a FREE game on a 5 year old engine? Jesus H. Christ people get a new hobby, whining doesnt even pay minimum wage.
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--QuoteBegin--||SemperFi||+Aug 20 2003, 01:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (||SemperFi|| @ Aug 20 2003, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh who gives a flying lerk. Seriously is your life so empty and boring that you have to make threads about ONE bad incident in a FREE game on a 5 year old engine? Jesus H. Christ people get a new hobby, whining doesnt even pay minimum wage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude that happens almost every game. and Flayra can fix this problem. We just all have to ask him.. how simple is that.
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SjN+Aug 20 2003, 01:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SjN @ Aug 20 2003, 01:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude that happens almost every game.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey thanks for telling me what happens in every game i play. I must of been stupid to actually experience the game for myself. Thanks for playing it for me though!
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and Flayra can fix this problem. We just all have to ask him.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah yes. Im sure the catchy "NS SUX!" title will grab his eye!
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey thanks for telling me what happens in every game i play. I must of been stupid to actually experience the game for myself. Thanks for playing it for me though!
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    well it usually doesn't happen on servers such as "n00bs are welcome!! coem and play!!"

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ah yes. Im sure the catchy "NS SUX!" title will grab his eye!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NS - Nade Spam!
    and at least 2 forum mods already saw this thread. and if not flayra, then other devs will read this thread, and report it to flayra.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    An idea I proposed to end these types of stalemates. A vote_endgame option of some kind for players on pubs.

    Thread Pimpage:

    <b>A Mod to End Stalemates?</b>
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=43921' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=ST&f=1&t=43921</a>

    And yes, this new trend does make NS less entertaining but I wouldn't say NS sux... l4m3 commanders and marines who keep it going, now <i>they</i> sux.
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SjN+Aug 20 2003, 01:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SjN @ Aug 20 2003, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> at least 2 forum mods already saw this thread. and if not flayra, then other devs will read this thread, and report it to flayra. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What do you want them to do? Go back to the retarded old armory system where it took 5 minutes just to get 10 bullets in my pistol? Or what limit the number of GLs given out? Hey while they are at it why dont they correct EVERY possible "lame" thing that could be done in the game? No building in vents, no boosting, no clan stacking, no auto conceed, auto team balance, no turret farms, etc etc etc

    If you were playing on a team with a combined total of just 3 brain cells they would of ejected the comm and went out with a bang. Not a two hour stalemate with no chance of winning.
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SjN+Aug 20 2003, 01:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SjN @ Aug 20 2003, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ah yes. Im sure the catchy "NS SUX!" title will grab his eye!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NS - Nade Spam! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats not what I see.
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    <!--QuoteBegin--SjN+Aug 20 2003, 02:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SjN @ Aug 20 2003, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Dude that happens almost every game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh? I've only experienced it once.
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    geez, you really have nothing else to do?
  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    Just admit you have no idea what the word title means, so I can go to sleep.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ah yes. Im sure the catchy "NS SUX!" <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>title</span> will grab his eye!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if not flayra, then other devs will read this thread, and report it to flayra.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    g'night
  • tapehandstapehands Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1980Members
    edited August 2003
    Now, now...no need to be angsty about this. Be a real marine and whip a knife out. Or, conversely, go skulk and have a bitefest. You'd be amazed how that remedies all your problems. X_x

    However, I do agree that nade spam is a big enough problem to warrant looking into a fix because there's basically no counter for it other than a combination of sheer luck and brute force. Add in the usual flair of turret spam and it can ruin the game, causing auto-concedes, or 2-3 hour rounds in cases of the very determined, or very populated servers.
  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    I'm not allowed to end the game in some servers I play in when I'm marine. If I surrender by recycling base, because our comm was an idiot and left the chair, and I got bored and sick of waiting, some fruitcake who wasn't even an admin threatened to ban me. OOOHhhh, I'm scared of some prissy alien that like 5-hour endgames.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    edited August 2003
    Now this one truely unique topic. I wonder how no one else noticed the long lasting end games before.

    Oh wait. There are more threads whining about long end games than there are letters in bible. Dev team IS aware of this and they will do something about it if and when they see fit.

    Thank you. Good bye.

    Edit: Splelling
  • ThePhilipsThePhilips Join Date: 2002-09-09 Member: 1302Members
    You should some grenade spam on tanith, now thats impossible. It's 2 small ways so easly defended with 1 nade launcher. And with 4 it kills a onos on a slip secounp.
  • JesusCJesusC Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14996Members
    Regardless of how you want to debate this, feel it should be locked, or want to troll the poor guy for stating his opinion... give the man some credit for his sports announcer break down of the perfect GL spam. Does the "<i>5 tfs!</i>" not make everyone else laugh?
  • AnimosityAnimosity Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11768Members
    credit to the marines that kept aliens out of caged . wp

    and, it doesnt happen every game . if it does you ARE on the noob servers. i only witnessed a true GL stalemate once, and thats because i was commanding and did it right. on eclipse, 4 GL's on each door , horse vent welded . at least 10 turrets each door quite far back to stop any skulks leaping through or onos that dont quite die to the 8 nades going off per second. (btw i sold ip's at 45:00 on the clock, i was just proving a point to myself that marines dont lose if they dont want to)
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