A heat shield is a tube that fits over a gun barrel, and usually has holes in it for air cooling. It's normally used to prevent silly soldiers from burning themselves on a hot machine gun barrel. A rotary cannon switches between several barrels while it's firing, since a single barreled weapon with an RPM that high would melt. On your weapon, the gun barrels (or perhaps what we see of them) are very short, making it unlikely someone would touch them. It's also redundant to have 2 heat-sinking systems.
Well I don't know crap about modelling or skinning, but if you need a concept, I might be able to help. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I agree with an earlier post that the HMG, with all due respect Sid <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->, shouldn't be a minigun. Something along the lines of a heavy assault rifle. Perhaps something that has only one barrel, a unique or traditional reload method, and is held like an assault rifle.
I don't like box fed weapons, since they don't look like the thing you run into creatures to shoot it with as you do with the HMG. You more like, set up somewhere and mow down incoming aliens. Either clip fed from a banana mag to be extreme, a default HMG mag, cylinder magazine, or P-90 style.
Just some ideas and opinions <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But I'd get that LMG finished first, lest it be washed aside in the big rants about the HMG which hasn't even been decided upon.
<!--QuoteBegin--Sid+Aug 17 2003, 02:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Aug 17 2003, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--the_unlucky_one+Aug 17 2003, 01:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_unlucky_one @ Aug 17 2003, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the barrels..wont they stick out to one side alot? since your fore grip is rite in front of it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sorry... but I don't exactly see what you mean.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> sry to confuse u..lolz i get it now ^^; <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
but for sum reason that lookie like a toy gun hahaha.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
Kinda from way far back but I really love that upper left one <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->. Be sad to see it go. /frag realizes he is using some no-scoped lmgs... hmmmm.....
Anyway, I still like the upper left, even though it is probably to late.
Great work, this is the kind of thing we have been needing.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I agree with an earlier post that the HMG, with all due respect Sid , shouldn't be a minigun. Something along the lines of a heavy assault rifle. Perhaps something that has only one barrel, a unique or traditional reload method, and is held like an assault rifle.
I don't like box fed weapons, since they don't look like the thing you run into creatures to shoot it with as you do with the HMG. You more like, set up somewhere and mow down incoming aliens. Either clip fed from a banana mag to be extreme, a default HMG mag, cylinder magazine, or P-90 style.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is NS after all. Marines are up against the likes of skulks, fades, lerks... all fast moving and very agile creatures. I'd like to you see swivel a box fed minigun fast enough to shoot at a leaping skulk. It would just be too awkward. It definitely needs to be an assault rifle of some type.
What about something like the Mecha Gun in Gunman Chronicles as HMG? It would have to be bigger and have a clip or something. And of course a skin that fits NS. Here are some screens I could find: <a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0041.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 1</a> <a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0038.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 2</a> <a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0034.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 3</a>
I like the idea of a HMG rotary cannon, and I like that concept pic.
And it's very late now, but I liked lower left best <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for shotteh... please not an auto-shotty. Looks too much like a grenade launcher, just looks silly imho. One that's as close to the original as your LMG is to the original would be great.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->why do you refuse to use smoothing? these high poly models could end up looking more low poly than the low poly models then. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because I like making flat shaded renders of the models so people can see what they actually look like, adding smoothing distorts the look. Smoothing would be added by the time it is ingame, don't worry about it.
To be an HMG it would need to be one gigantic assault rifle. An AK or an M4 won't do the job. It would need to be something more like the OICW or bigger. I don't see how an assault rifle can do the job. I like Sid's idea. Having some kind of obviously futuristic and large double+ barreled gun that's not gigantic, but definitely a lot bigger than the LMG.
As far as a player modeler goes, Im taking a 3DSMAX course at Vo-Tech, and as soon as my comp is up and running there, I can work on whatever I like, just so long as i create a moving scene by the end of the year
so... I would be willing to model for your pack if you let me use the weapon models in my scene,
tbh, i dont think u'll find one - i've never heard of anybody meshing someone else's models <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I can get a stab at the uwmapping with my dirty hands...all i need is 3ds file so i can open it up in Milkshape <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (<span style='color:red'> WARNING: I do not take responsibility for failing of this pack or the uwmaps.</span>).
<!--QuoteBegin--Selbstmord+Aug 22 2003, 04:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Selbstmord @ Aug 22 2003, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you need a skinmesher, give me a shout <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> our savior? guiding us to the light? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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A rotary cannon switches between several barrels while it's firing, since a single barreled weapon with an RPM that high would melt.
On your weapon, the gun barrels (or perhaps what we see of them) are very short, making it unlikely someone would touch them. It's also redundant to have 2 heat-sinking systems.
I don't like box fed weapons, since they don't look like the thing you run into creatures to shoot it with as you do with the HMG. You more like, set up somewhere and mow down incoming aliens. Either clip fed from a banana mag to be extreme, a default HMG mag, cylinder magazine, or P-90 style.
Just some ideas and opinions <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But I'd get that LMG finished first, lest it be washed aside in the big rants about the HMG which hasn't even been decided upon.
I'm sorry... but I don't exactly see what you mean.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
sry to confuse u..lolz i get it now ^^; <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
but for sum reason that lookie like a toy gun hahaha.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway, I still like the upper left, even though it is probably to late.
Great work, this is the kind of thing we have been needing.
I don't like box fed weapons, since they don't look like the thing you run into creatures to shoot it with as you do with the HMG. You more like, set up somewhere and mow down incoming aliens. Either clip fed from a banana mag to be extreme, a default HMG mag, cylinder magazine, or P-90 style.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is NS after all. Marines are up against the likes of skulks, fades, lerks...
all fast moving and very agile creatures. I'd like to you see swivel a box fed minigun fast enough to shoot at a leaping skulk.
It would just be too awkward.
It definitely needs to be an assault rifle of some type.
It would have to be bigger and have a clip or something. And of course a skin that fits NS.
Here are some screens I could find:
<a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0041.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 1</a>
<a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0038.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 2</a>
<a href='http://www.3dactionplanet.com/gunman/screens/shots/ingame/0034.jpg' target='_blank'>Pic 3</a>
And it's very late now, but I liked lower left best <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for shotteh... please not an auto-shotty. Looks too much like a grenade launcher, just looks silly imho. One that's as close to the original as your LMG is to the original would be great.
Because I like making flat shaded renders of the models so people can see what they actually look like, adding smoothing distorts the look. Smoothing would be added by the time it is ingame, don't worry about it.
My Concept was exactly like the gun Palmaneen showed. It origianlly was supposed to have two roatry barrels.
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
so... I would be willing to model for your pack if you let me use the weapon models in my scene,
But i tried modelling animating meshing and skining in the past and well lets just say it didnt turn out very perty... Ill just offer moral support!
Jamil meshed my M8, so it does happen. It's just very rare
our savior? guiding us to the light? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->