How Much Damage Does Leap Do?

DY357LX · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">I'm Not New But Thought I'd Ask-See Pic</div> Straight to the point on this one:

Didn't "search" sorry! So I don't know if this has been posted already.
I'm kinda keen to get to bed.

My question is:
Is there some sort of error in the cl_autohelp 1.0 help for "LEAP" ?
The description tells us that LEAP does a whooping "4" damage.

Is this correct? Surely it's "40" ?

the_draft · August 2003

The NS 2.0 damage calculator

<a href='http://www.nonoobs.com/damage.php' target='_blank'>http://www.nonoobs.com/damage.php</a>

Oops, leap's not even in there. Sorry <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

DarkDude · August 2003

Yea I noticed that too, thought it was weird but didn't think to much about it... Leap is really used for movement not really attacking so that might be true but I know I've been killed by leap at about half health. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> I'm not sure...

Sarisel · August 2003

I think it is 4 per tick, as long as the leap lasts - so when you are in contact with a marine, it will start going. However, it is just easier to switch to bite in mid-leap and you get a greater effect.

Tupacforever · August 2003

its 2 attacks to kill a light armor marine with leap ive tried it

but i hit the head so i dunno

Vri · August 2003

dont forget what leap is... its a leap, in other words you toss your body at your oppenent and land on him, leap is not leap'n'bite, its just that.. leaping, do as the other guy said, leap then switch to bite, if your skilled you can get lots of kills, Ive been killed several times from an experienced skulk who leaps and bites mid air

on the other hand skulks do have rather large claws, I still think 4 sounds pretty low, perhaps its only 4 to prevent people from only leaping?, its not easy to hit while leaping so I dont know why they would make damage so low.. probably prevention who knows

Wheeee · August 2003

they didn't update some of the tooltips...I *think* they changed it from the "100fps leap insta-kill HA" it used to be in 1.04 to a constant damage...16 maybe?

Evo · August 2003

No, leap damage is still pathetically low.
I know because I was screwwing around in a game a while back... basically the marines had TF'ed the base to all hell (turrets EVERYWHERE) and the Aliens were constantly pounding on us. So I decided to make a little game of trying to see how far out of the marine base I could run without being spored/spiked/gored/devoured or otherwise brutally killed. A couple aliens caught onto this and thought it was hillarious, so whenever they saw me run out of the base with a knife, they let me run, shouting encouragement at me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>. Anyways, me (and another guy who caught on and did the same) broke out of the marine base and went and hid in a vent with two "friendly" skulks. They climbed us up to a safe spot in the roof where we could see aliens run past, and generally mess about.
ANYWAYS. Point of the story is, I let <i>two</i> different skulks try repeatedly to leap attack me from minimal range. I was standing perfectly still, so the challange factor was zero, but every single time they did four damage. Four four four. (Which is actually like 2 health or something stupid after armour <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>). We found it quite amusing that <b>Parasite did MORE damage than leap.</b>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> -------------------------------> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> = <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Go figure.

monkeymaster · August 2003

100fps-instakill-ha ?? ? ?

does that mean if im gettin 100frames per2nd i will leap kill a ha in 1 hit ? ? ?.. .if thats what you meant then your wrong, i get about 100fps all the time i havent leaped anyone marines to death yet.

bugulu · August 2003

you can kill any marine with leap in a vent even a ha but its hell lot harder to do it in open field

Squidget · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (monkeymaster @ Aug 20 2003, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 100fps-instakill-ha ?? ? ?

does that mean if im gettin 100frames per2nd i will leap kill a ha in 1 hit ? ? ?.. .if thats what you meant then your wrong, i get about 100fps all the time i havent leaped anyone marines to death yet.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I assure you such things did happen. It was a big problem in 1.04, but stated as fixed in 2.0.

In 1.04, IIRC, you could leap kill an RT in two leaps if you had the framerates for it. It was simply nuts.

Krytos · August 2003

I must be some kind of freak, I LIKE to attack with leap. Especially with adren, because leap does take quite a bit of energy. I think it confuses the marines by haveing a skulk fly back and forth around them. It makes you hard to because of your speed, and you hurt the rines in the process. I find that it works best when you combine it with another unit. You leap around the marines and get them all to turn in circles while your buddy picks them off, or surprises them (depending on what your buddy is). I also like using it in combination with Xenocide when taking down turret farms. Leap over the farm, and then explode on top of the TF. By the time the marines know you're there, you've already exploded. Am I the only one who actually likes leap? Or am I just a freak? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

RaVe · August 2003

Leap is only useful in vents where you will only have 2 options

1. Run up to him and bite *Very risky*
2. Close the distance and quickly damage with leap *Less risky,but weaker*

I'd go for 2,leap is simply a killing machie in vents,but in open areas you are going to have very hard problems with leap,like sticking to your target for instance.

Leap does 4 damage per tick and sticking to marine during the whole duration of the leap will hurt him a whole lot.

But then you could just use it for quick propulsion for a quick bite.

lolfighter · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tupacforever @ Aug 21 2003, 02:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> its 2 attacks to kill a light armor marine with leap ive tried it

but i hit the head so i dunno  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
No locational damage in NS, so don't bother going for the head.

obuh · August 2003

Leap can do a lot of damage. Here you can see that the leap did 100 damage (25 x 4) to the resource tower (mp_drawdamage 1). So you can effectively kill a LA marine in 2 leaps if you stay in contact long enough.

Align · August 2003

Excellent, obuh managed to show with a pic the whole deal about leap doing 4 dmg.
He says it does 25x4(that is, 100) damage with a single leap. In 1.04, it could be stuff like <b>100</b>x4, if you had high framerates... woo. And also, I heard the other night that if you switched to bite during the leap it did BITEx100 or whatever. That's mad damage.
Incase you were wondering "why didn't I get more leap kills then, I always switch to bite in mid-air", it's because it showed up like a bite-kill because bite was currently selected- same as Onos killing with primal scream(ie charge) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Turkey2 · August 2003

it doesnt do bite x 100 it does your leap damage (which if its 4x25 thank you finally for someone getting the number of touches though 25 is very low compared to 100 that I used to get) then the bite damage at the same time, but you can usually kill la in 2 leaps so I dont bother to switch to bite until the first person is dead. Usually leap, leap chomp chomp. yummy. Leap is still very powerful against buildings when you have adren as long as you do it correctly.

btw I miss leaping heavies, at 2 hives especially with web support it was easily the most effective way to kill them

How Much Damage Does Leap Do?

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