[mrel]cel-shaded Pack

kms2709 · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Sort of...</div> Introducing the Cel-Shaded Pack v.1. This pack includes new model skins for every alien, alien building, marine, and marine building.
The skins here are not *really* cel-shaded, just that they look like they are. They are as close to it as the HL engine can get. I havn't re-done the gun models yet but I will in a future release.
Enjoy, and feedback is welcome.

<a href='http://www.geocities.com/kevms2709/CShadePack.zip' target='_blank'>Hold left click and drag to address box</a>

*edit* the marine buildings look like crap, but the alien models look good. Could someone help me on how to make them look better?

sporty · August 2003

sounds interesting, but meh wants screenshots <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
no wait...il dl it and take a look in hlmv <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

CoolCookieCooks · August 2003

<-- Downloading ^_^

sporty · August 2003

well.....it looks more like low detail textures to me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

kms2709 · August 2003

I did some basic cel-shading on them and they turned out really ugly in game, but really good in photoshop. In game, these look really well. I will work on them more and update it.

Tyralion · August 2003

Whoaaa! Screenshots! (what is it with people who won't put up a screenshot parallel to a release?)

PoisonTheWell · August 2003

bandwidth is shot

Rue · August 2003

Bandwidth Limit reached :/ You might want to try and get someone to mirror it for you

Leaderz0rz · August 2003

you people seriously need to find better webhosts....

Jaeger · August 2003

I can get a host up fairly quickly if you people don't kill it again. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Jabba_The_Hunt · August 2003

Thehivemind.org will host it if you can give me a server to download it from in the first place please.

Jaeger · August 2003

<a href='http://www.wrestlinghaven.com/gg/Jaeger/CShadePack.zip' target='_blank'>Mirrored.</a>

Umbraed_Monkey · August 2003

in hlmv, i cant see the thick outline (the slightly bigger reversed black polygons) i was expecting from a 'cel-shaded' model <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Zyndrome · August 2003

cel-shaded? I was hoping for something like the shading in the mod BuzzyBots, but this is just like if you've applied 8-color skins on the models...

FrickenMoron · August 2003

That's definately NOT cell shading, it looks like all of the texture bits have been blurred :/
Sorry to dissapoint the author but definately not worth the download.....

Jezpuh · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FrickenMoron @ Aug 24 2003, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's definately NOT cell shading, it looks like all of the texture bits have been blurred :/
Sorry to dissapoint the author but definately not worth the download.....  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Amen.

He's right.

FrickenMoron · August 2003

Oh yeah to add an example of real cell shading:
This TFC dispenser is a good example of:

<img src='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/dispenser.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Onos from this pack looks like that:
<img src='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/onoz.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
No black outlines :/

Dont wanna trash your work, just wanna show that its no cell shading at all :/

LordLestat · August 2003

Is there any models that looks like the picture above the onos?
<img src='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/dispenser.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

like this?

it would be kinda cool =)

Mart · August 2003

Not for NS I don't think.

But there is an old HL mod that was dedicated to Cell Shaded models called Buzzy Bots. Was mad fun too.

kms2709 · August 2003

you *cannot* make actual cel shaded models in NS without a whole 'nother mod. My mission was to make the models look as close to the real thing as possible. The alien models look respectable, but my marine skins suck thats why im goin to keep working on them.

Jezpuh · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FrickenMoron @ Aug 24 2003, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Oh yeah to add an example of real cell shading:
This TFC dispenser is a good example of:

<img src='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/dispenser.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Onos from this pack looks like that:
<img src='http://www.shark5060.net/forum/fricken/onoz.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
No black outlines :/

Dont wanna trash your work, just wanna show that its no cell shading at all :/  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
offtopic: How to get that effect in photoshop? I was looking for that.

Umbraed_Monkey · August 2003

No, some other guy did it, and showed us some examples in this forum....but I have no idea what happened to him or the models-that-took-less-than-5-mins-to-convert-to-cel-shade. The way I understood his explaination is, you gotta make a copy of the model, make it slightly bigger, color it black and make it inside out so that you can only see the black on the inside, giving the black line effect.

If you had THAT added to what youve done already, that would be quite awesome <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

edit: it doubles your poly count, btw, as the inside out model is put around the original model

McGibs · August 2003

Do you just not know how to cell shade models?

It has nothing to do with code.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>gotta make a copy of the model, make it slightly bigger, color it black and make it inside out so that you can only see the black on the inside, giving the black line effect.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

there ya go.

Take the whole model, duplecate it, englarge it a tiny bit, reverse all the polygons and give it a black skin.

Only problem is it doubles the polycount.

kms2709 · August 2003

how do you "reverse the polygons" in milkshape?

Mart · August 2003

Use the magical 'Flip Faces' button.

kms2709 · August 2003

Where is the flip faces button? Im using 1.6.6a. Is it on that version?

McGibs · August 2003

oh god...

you probly should even be doing this in the first place...

Face: reverse vertex order.

I'm guessing youve never made a model from scratch because you would haved used that option all the time when making indeviduas polies.

kms2709 · August 2003

Ok no wonder it didnt look right, it doesnt giv eit the black outline thing in milkshape 3d view, but it does in HLMV.

Nottingham · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (McGibs @ Aug 24 2003, 02:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Do you just not know how to cell shade models?

It has nothing to do with code.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>gotta make a copy of the model, make it slightly bigger, color it black and make it inside out so that you can only see the black on the inside, giving the black line effect.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

there ya go.

Take the whole model, duplecate it, englarge it a tiny bit, reverse all the polygons and give it a black skin.

Only problem is it doubles the polycount.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
REAL cellshading isnt a reversed model. you code that. But as far as I know theres no mod for hl that allows REAL cellshading therefor you must use the mentioned method.

Jonny_Blaze · August 2003

So could anyone make a high poly 'cel-shaded' pack? It would be awesome! (or maybe I've just been playing that XIII demo too much...)

Dubbilex · August 2003

Now that I recall, there were some cel-shaded lookalike models in a <i>Sven Co-Op</i> map. Lookeh.

Exhibit A:

<img src='http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/ToonExample1.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Exhibit B:

<img src='http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/Toonexample2.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Therefore, it CAN be done, to varying degrees of effectiveness. or those of you who are no familiar with Sven Co-Op, the cel-shading effect on these models works quite well indeed.

[mrel]cel-shaded Pack

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