I was playing yesterday on the :3am: server & I was spawning in on Tanith when I looked around & <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> farm carrnage on the ground level, this was pethitic in my view, everyone screaming their heads off.....
Get the hell off comm you little n00b & all other comments that I won't say in risk of been banned.
Any way we lost that when we all did a mass sucide off the edge of the Marine Base RT platform with no IP's(**** Comm)
Next Map, n00bs were flying out of my arse when I was Comm, they would not listen except for one guy that helped get 2 hives, but of course with the n00bs been out of control asking for loads of crap, we lost when <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> became a fun ride(in their guts), so what I do, HIDE in a little coner & waited until they quit, Marines Won?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->?
Unbelievable <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> of cause having JP & Shotgun with an armoury in a secret position can also boost your survival rate.
<!--QuoteBegin--Kadreal<lost>+Aug 25 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kadreal<lost> @ Aug 25 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You said you would wipe out a base as an onos, so let's just say that the amount of time it takes for the turret to lock is the time it takes to get to the first turret, so you get to the first turret and you start attacking, it takes 16 hits to kill a turret from onos claw, let's say onos hits 4 times a second, so if you had carapace or regen, you'd die right when you'd kill the turret, in the time it would take you to re-evovle onos the marines would have easily put up 4 more turret for the one you just killed. Even if you picked redeem you'd redeem after about 2 seconds or die in 3 ( redeem has less toughness then regen or cara) so you'd half kill the turret then redeem, by the time you healed up and got back across the map their'd most likly be a marine welding it or guarding the area since you just attacked, regardless the extra damage fromthe marine would make you redeem faster and if the turret got welded it wouldn't matter anyways. see where this is going?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> stop trying to make up reasons, i never said you had to kill the turret THEN leave you do as much damage as you can then you regen, its THAT SIMPLE, jesus christ someone needs to make a demo for you so you can see how EASY it is
<!--QuoteBegin--Vri+Aug 25 2003, 08:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vri @ Aug 25 2003, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> {T}hey buil{t} offense towers behind an openable door{,} then opened it to take down my towers{.} {S}o{,} I had to get out and destroy them 1 by 1 {'}{cause} I didn{'}t have {a} siege. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You were into a game for an hour or more and didn't have any sieges? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
This thread reminds me of my first commanding experience. I joined a game with two other people on the marine team. The guy yelled at me and said I ruined the game for "everyone" when I said I didn't know how to upgrade weapons. At this point, "everyone" was him since the other guy wasn't paying attention at all.
<!--QuoteBegin--Vri+Aug 25 2003, 06:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vri @ Aug 25 2003, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> stop trying to make up reasons, i never said you had to kill the turret THEN leave you do as much damage as you can then you regen, its THAT SIMPLE, jesus christ someone needs to make a demo for you so you can see how EASY it is <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> even with regen, you'd get in and have enough time to hit the turret about 4 times, then you'd hafta run back for cover. and regen from almost no health remaining, and as everyone knows an onos with less then 100 hp takes a long time to recover with regen, plenty long enough for that lone marine to come see whats going on, then when you attack next he'll be shooting you, thus you'll hafta pull out before you do ANY DAMAGE or risk death.
<!--QuoteBegin--Vri+Aug 25 2003, 04:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vri @ Aug 25 2003, 04:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its unfortunate you guys consider 14 alot because that is easy to take down with a little team work, especialy with what they were going up against. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you implied that 14 turrets is not a lot, I did not agree.
about 8 is pretty regular, 14 makes it hard to move.
and I think 14 is a lot for the exact opposite of your reason - it is possible to take down, but not as easy as you are saying.
<!--QuoteBegin--Kadreal<lost>+Aug 25 2003, 07:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kadreal<lost> @ Aug 25 2003, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> even with regen, you'd get in and have enough time to hit the turret about 4 times, then you'd hafta run back for cover. and regen from almost no health remaining, and as everyone knows an onos with less then 100 hp takes a long time to recover with regen, plenty long enough for that lone marine to come see whats going on, then when you attack next he'll be shooting you, thus you'll hafta pull out before you do ANY DAMAGE or risk death. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> again your purposefully making up reasons that dont have to do with my game, I responded accordingly, you cant take being wrong so you'll blaber on with nonsense not directly relating to what Im talking about, thats fine with me, you want to convince ppl it cant be done go ahead, you'll get whored on any server with good players and you'll hate'em, but lucky enough for you ppl there are rarely good players on pubs
most of the other posts arent worth responding to so you dont have to worry about goading <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
You said you could handle your base of 14 turrets as an onos, I simply disagreed ( unless your a sucky commander and a good onos in which case sure). an onos cannont take down a well constructed base of 14 turrets by himself ( once again unless the marines are being screwballs and ignoring the base). the point of an argument is to present reasons for your side, as such you have presented no arguments in your favor and have instead turned up your nose at mine. Now if your willing to present a logical argument in your favor as to how an onos could remove a 14 turrent base from existance I'm willing to listen.
BTW I agree that the switching teams and recycling was definatly wrong, and while placing more then 8 turrets is looked down appon there is certainly nothing stopping you from doing it.
I get your point Vri, and its danmed sad that many other people dont get your point like i've seen it.
From the sounds of it i'd would've LOVED to play that game, lots of battle, insense, fun even... then a sore alien player just had to ruin it all by calling you names, and changing teams just to recycle everything you had. Really sad way to win, imo. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> It's the kind of act that makes people want to kill other people (really!) because no one should act that way <i>in a game.</i>
From the sounds of it 10-14 turrets doesn't seem that bad. I've taken down a outpost of 4 turrets with bile bomb and it was relativly easy, considering: 1- There was no phase 2- The other aliens had the marines tied up, so i could do as i pleased 3- I had adren, Bile Bomb, and regen 4- No seiges
Technically, if there was no phase those outposts they would've been dust long ago. Now, even though the outpost i attacked had 4 turrets, no siege, and no phase it took me about 2-4 minutes because the turrets wern't clumped together. Not that long but maybe long enough for a marine to come by and blow my gorgie butt away... If the alien team had any brains in that game you played there would've been 2 gorges who had setup sufficent defence chambers/OC's while the last alien player as a onos protected the 2 gorges as the 2 gorges bile bombed or heal-sprayed the onos as he gored the turrets while also being healed by DCs.
Again, its sad to read and have these things happen to players but you just gotta move on... but be sure to take their WonID number with you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Get the hell off comm you little n00b & all other comments that I won't say in risk of been banned.
Any way we lost that when we all did a mass sucide off the edge of the Marine Base RT platform with no IP's(**** Comm)
Next Map, n00bs were flying out of my arse when I was Comm, they would not listen except for one guy that helped get 2 hives, but of course with the n00bs been out of control asking for loads of crap, we lost when <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> became a fun ride(in their guts), so what I do, HIDE in a little coner & waited until they quit, Marines Won?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->?
Unbelievable <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> of cause having JP & Shotgun with an armoury in a secret position can also boost your survival rate.
stop trying to make up reasons, i never said you had to kill the turret THEN leave you do as much damage as you can then you regen, its THAT SIMPLE, jesus christ someone needs to make a demo for you so you can see how EASY it is
He's goading you all...
Don't bother feeding him....
You were into a game for an hour or more and didn't have any sieges? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
even with regen, you'd get in and have enough time to hit the turret about 4 times, then you'd hafta run back for cover. and regen from almost no health remaining, and as everyone knows an onos with less then 100 hp takes a long time to recover with regen, plenty long enough for that lone marine to come see whats going on, then when you attack next he'll be shooting you, thus you'll hafta pull out before you do ANY DAMAGE or risk death.
you implied that 14 turrets is not a lot, I did not agree.
about 8 is pretty regular, 14 makes it hard to move.
and I think 14 is a lot for the exact opposite of your reason - it is possible to take down, but not as easy as you are saying.
again your purposefully making up reasons that dont have to do with my game, I responded accordingly, you cant take being wrong so you'll blaber on with nonsense not directly relating to what Im talking about, thats fine with me, you want to convince ppl it cant be done go ahead, you'll get whored on any server with good players and you'll hate'em, but lucky enough for you ppl there are rarely good players on pubs
most of the other posts arent worth responding to so you dont have to worry about goading <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
BTW I agree that the switching teams and recycling was definatly wrong, and while placing more then 8 turrets is looked down appon there is certainly nothing stopping you from doing it.
From the sounds of it i'd would've LOVED to play that game, lots of battle, insense, fun even... then a sore alien player just had to ruin it all by calling you names, and changing teams just to recycle everything you had. Really sad way to win, imo. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> It's the kind of act that makes people want to kill other people (really!) because no one should act that way <i>in a game.</i>
From the sounds of it 10-14 turrets doesn't seem that bad. I've taken down a outpost of 4 turrets with bile bomb and it was relativly easy, considering: 1- There was no phase 2- The other aliens had the marines tied up, so i could do as i pleased 3- I had adren, Bile Bomb, and regen 4- No seiges
Technically, if there was no phase those outposts they would've been dust long ago. Now, even though the outpost i attacked had 4 turrets, no siege, and no phase it took me about 2-4 minutes because the turrets wern't clumped together. Not that long but maybe long enough for a marine to come by and blow my gorgie butt away... If the alien team had any brains in that game you played there would've been 2 gorges who had setup sufficent defence chambers/OC's while the last alien player as a onos protected the 2 gorges as the 2 gorges bile bombed or heal-sprayed the onos as he gored the turrets while also being healed by DCs.
Again, its sad to read and have these things happen to players but you just gotta move on... but be sure to take their WonID number with you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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