Are Teenagers Becoming More Bothersome?

CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
Would you say teenagers are becoming more bothersome compared to past years (maybe when you were younger)? Or are you a teenager and have seen other bothersome teenagers?

The reason I am asking this is that I have noticed an increase of teenage "gangs" in my area who are usually up to no good. It's almost garunteed that in a half mile walk to my friends house you will get pestered off kids calling you something for no reason.

These groups of teenagers are usually up to no good and causing trouble. Almost anywhere you go you get pestered by them. It wasn't long ago that a group of teenagers, one was my friend when I was younger, kept bothering my friend and me, asking for fights.

Most of them just do it to act big because they think it's good. Of course, being 19, I can't do anything about it. If you see them alone they just put their head down and walk by. Not that I would do anything to them anyway, provoking them is bound to get a reaction.

My friend is younger than me and he has a girlfriend who lives in, what would be, the rough area of my town. He has been attacked (no serious harm) by teenagers about three times, for doing nothing but walking by.

Now, living only a short distance from a school, I see the kind of people that go there. When I was at school they were always causing trouble and I just couldn't see how any of them would pass their exams. I have seen schoolkids hitching rides on busses by holding onto the back of them.

On various TV shows you see teenagers smashing cars/windows in, taking drugs, drinking, harassing people and all sorts of things. Sometimes on the news you hear of teenagers robbing people and stealing things.

Now, when I was young, I'm sure that there was people like this but nowhere near as many as there is now. I used to get into trouble when I was younger, but I was never in a gang, nor was anybody I know. I didn't harass people and I respected my elders, something I feel which is missing today.

Do you have any problems like this?
Have an idea what causes it?
Any solutions?

Comments

  • zoobyzooby Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20236Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do you have any problems like this?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yep. I just stay away from them.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Have an idea what causes it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Absence of parents or discipline at an early age.
    Media that encourages it as "cool" behaviour.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Any solutions?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When children are young, administer corporal punishment if they do something wrong repeatedly after being warned. Say "No" to them. Give them the impression that they live poorly. As they get older, don't give them money because you pity them, or because you aren't there to be a parent. Know their friends and their friend's parents.

    [edit]yea, I'm a 16 year old with no parenting experience, but--I look at the way I was brought up, and I look at the way jackasses were brought up, and I see a big difference.[/edit]
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    I'm a senior in high school and the polarity of behavior even between my class and the one under me is amazing...

    For no reason the underclassmen are forming gangs, slashing tires in towns, etc. and this is a previously quiet and safe town.. no need for gangs.

    They just seem TONS worse than my class ever was.
  • zoobyzooby Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20236Members
    let's see, the class under me is half full of ****, whacks, and good-fornothing, while the other half seems to fit in more with my class. The class under that are a bunch of loud-mouths who think they are really cool and know more than us, and the incoming freshman...hmm....one of my friends described them as "hot." I have yet to see them.
  • SpectrulusSpectrulus Join Date: 2003-08-15 Member: 19731Members
    While the punishment could work, id like to take it a step in another direction, and lower the population too.
    The problem lies in the parents. Almost all kids have the potential to be good people, but most dont get the nurtering neaded to achieve it. U kno what i mean. Many parents divorcing because they cant handle having kids, Some people r just... demented? Some people cant handle the requirements of being a parent. If i felt like restricting it for the betterment of people, becuz some cant handle themselves, let alone others.
    Id say make it only legal to have children after passing a parenting competency course. And practicing with a child and stuff.
    As to dealiing with the delinquints... move to another area asap. If u confront them, ull get hurt. If u call the police, they might be able to do somthing, but u prolly wouldent feel safe there any longer so u might as well leave. Thats about i all i can say on it.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CaL_FiN+Aug 26 2003, 08:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CaL_FiN @ Aug 26 2003, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Would you say teenagers are becoming more bothersome compared to past years (maybe when you were younger)? Or are you a teenager and have seen other bothersome teenagers?

    The reason I am asking this is that I have noticed an increase of teenage "gangs" in my area who are usually up to no good. It's almost garunteed that in a half mile walk to my friends house you will get pestered off kids calling you something for no reason.

    These groups of teenagers are usually up to no good and causing trouble. Almost anywhere you go you get pestered by them. It wasn't long ago that a group of teenagers, one was my friend when I was younger, kept bothering my friend and me, asking for fights.

    Most of them just do it to act big because they think it's good. Of course, being 19, I can't do anything about it. If you see them alone they just put their head down and walk by. Not that I would do anything to them anyway, provoking them is bound to get a reaction.

    My friend is younger than me and he has a girlfriend who lives in, what would be, the rough area of my town. He has been attacked (no serious harm) by teenagers about three times, for doing nothing but walking by.

    Now, living only a short distance from a school, I see the kind of people that go there. When I was at school they were always causing trouble and I just couldn't see how any of them would pass their exams. I have seen schoolkids hitching rides on busses by holding onto the back of them.

    On various TV shows you see teenagers smashing cars/windows in, taking drugs, drinking, harassing people and all sorts of things. Sometimes on the news you hear of teenagers robbing people and stealing things.

    Now, when I was young, I'm sure that there was people like this but nowhere near as many as there is now. I used to get into trouble when I was younger, but I was never in a gang, nor was anybody I know. I didn't harass people and I respected my elders, something I feel which is missing today.

    Do you have any problems like this?
    Have an idea what causes it?
    Any solutions? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Go to any midwestern highschool, Its enough to make somebody vomit. I am so glad I graduated this year. now THEY are teenangsters
  • zoobyzooby Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20236Members
    How about the multitude of Britney Spear-wannabes? The 'prosti-tots'? but that's OT.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    The idea off young girls dressing innapropriatly has been discussed to death here <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=40181&hl=cute+girls' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...1&hl=cute+girls</a>


    As far the new influx of teenangster gun-toting hip gangster wannabes. I'm going to put my money on their parents were raised poorly as well and the few remaining normal kids were raised by responsible adults and not 40 year old kids. It's kind of hard to imagine that if someone was raised to be a jackass they would suddenly be blessed with good parenting skills when they decide to impgrenante/get impgregnated. As far as why there is more of them perhaps it's sort of like cross breeding in plants where jackassness is a dominant trait and has slowly been showing up in mix groups (jackass father normal mother).
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    If it is a growing trend what is our future going to be like?
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Todays youth is degrading constantly. It searches frivolous distrcation, dresses itself innapropriatelly, and lacks any respect to venerable traditions.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The quote (which I had to translate out of the German, so I'd be thankful for a more correct version) is by Socrates.
    The youth isn't getting worse, we're only getting less young.
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Do you have any problems like this?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    All the time, they walk round with baseball bats, and they tryed shooting me and my friend on his door step, it was funny though, he was 10 meters away and he missed all 10 shots, he scrammed when we started walking towards him with objects.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Have an idea what causes it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, it's all that black crappy rap stuff * no racism intended.* It's stuff like Eminem and rap that teaches people violence and swearing, drugs, under age sex. Plus it's parents, if their parents life is a complete mess chances are their son, daughter life will be a mess.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Any solutions?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    BURN THEM !!!!



    I just noticed how many of them wear nike ,reebok, addidas you know sporty stuff.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Teenagers always were bothersome. Even the greek philosophers lamented over the disrespectul treamtment they received from their youngsters. You create troublesome teenagers by a society that keeps telling us that invidiualism is the only thing going. Youre pursuing your dreams, doing the things your way. All in the name of consumerism. They're being pumped full of lies, no wonder they turn strange and disillusioned as they realize things arent working as they were promised.

    Freedom of choice works better if you're brought up without much of it, then realize you suddenly can chose. Like parents of today. Their kids are then brought up with the illusion they can chose. But they dont yet have the experience in what happens when things go wrong. So I blame society at large (including parents, school system and media)! All of us who should be responsible aren't.
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    I suppose it's like when you're young and you get told, "we wouldn't do X to our elders." It just seems that whatever "X" is has been getting worse, from harmless fun to more serious issues.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Johnny we don't stab Grandpa with a kitchen knife.

    Well I suppoe at a certain point things will reach their worst and come back down. Things have a way of swinging back and forth in terms of social behavior. In the 70's everyone was ultra-conservative with leisure suits and such, and there was a very few "hippies" who would smoke pot and not wear a tie. As the 80's rolled around punks began to immerge as a complete protest to conservatism, so when the 90's hit it was now "cool to be punk" and the number of conservative people, especially among youth, shrunk. Now it seems that the majority is punkish kids with no respect and the I do what I want attidue and respectful semi-conservative people are kinda the small rebellious minority. But I would say it's going to turn around in the next decade or two.
  • zoobyzooby Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20236Members
    One of my teachers (really really old) said that she noticed a trend in teenagers. Sometimes, the kids would be really good and want to do anything to help out, and sometimes, the kids would come in completely drugged out. This was in eighth grade. At the time, she told us that while she thought we were a group of decent kids, the trend seemed to be getting worse again. It must be a prey-predator population curve-like thing!
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    I'd personally like to see some more child punishment laws passed. If nobody is teaching them rules, then maybe the law should force them to?

    Maybe lower the age you can be put in prison and put them there for a week or two, so they get a feel for the route they might be heading and spread the word.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Actually correctional facilities for the most part just make you more violent and prone to criminal acts, that is why most people that go in for non-violent crimes almost always go back in for violent ones.
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    That's quite true. Seeing asthough it is such a short time, it gives them time to plot and get angrier.

    It has been suggested that parents get punished for their childs actions, you reckon that could fix things?
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    I reckon certain people not having kids would fix a lot of things. I think their should be parenting licenses and if you don't qualify you don't get one, no more of this reproduce at a whim thing it's just not working anymore.
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    How would you judge who can or cannot. Also how would you stop the people without a license reproducing? If they had operations never to have children then they would resent the people who can, which would cause lots of trouble.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited August 2003
    No operation necessary, just make it a crime. If you've seen the movie Gattaca they pretty much have this system employed.

    There are plenty of ways to judge if someone is a fit parent, and kids are taking away from unfit parents all the time, unfortunatly this happens after they already have a child and most likely after they have already tramatized it.

    I am suggesting a simple screening, check for a criminal record, educational background, employment, place of residence, etc.
  • DecimatorDecimator Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8057Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Aug 27 2003, 03:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 27 2003, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No operation necessary, just make it a crime. If you've seen the movie Gattaca they pretty much have this system employed.

    There are plenty of ways to judge if someone is a fit parent, and kids are taking away from unfit parents all the time, unfortunatly this happens after they already have a child and most likely after they have already tramatized it.

    I am suggesting a simple screening, check for a criminal record, educational background, employment, place of residence, etc. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just...be careful what route you take with that. China comes to mind.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Well considering it wouldn't be a method of population control but a way to stop irresponsible parenting it would only restrict the population growth for a couple generations. Eventually everyone who is born would have been raised properly and therfore grow into adults who qualify to raise children.

    Also considering China is a totalirian state I believe the methods would be employed differently in a free democracy.
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