the graphics card manufacturer ATI leaked a version of doom3 ,ID has given to them to create screenshots and other stuff for con´s and advertisements, over the internet.. this version is very unstable,incomplete (not even alpha) crappy.. id was very **** about ati for doing this.. i think they wont support ati any longer..,or doing any new games with them,, ( they worked very closely with ati on doom 3) and this model is from this leaked version downloadet from somewhere..
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
Ok someone clear this up. Why would anyone care about this when no one cared about all the Starship Troopers, Counter-Strike and Aliens Vs Predator models. They are all the "ideological property" of other people through licenses and copy rights too ya know.
<!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Aug 30 2003, 02:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Aug 30 2003, 02:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok someone clear this up. Why would anyone care about this when no one cared about all the Starship Troopers, Counter-Strike and Aliens Vs Predator models. They are all the "ideological property" of other people through licenses and copy rights too ya know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> but they are not ripped from an unfinished product that is not even supposed to exist.. avp rips are tolerated because hey..you could buy avp2...and they got credited in readmes its alowed to have these rips when u have buyed avp2.. nobody checks back if you have avp buyed.. but its possible that u have it...
you are not alowed to have a original doom 3 model on your computer anyway..theres no game out yet,no way you could have a legal version installed in any way..
<!--QuoteBegin--343_guilty_spark+Aug 30 2003, 02:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (343_guilty_spark @ Aug 30 2003, 02:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Guess ID are really uptight about their models, especially seeing how they aren't released.
Also isn't <a href='http://www.planetdoom.com/images/image.asp?screenshots/official/3l.jpg' target='_blank'>THIS</a> a Doom 3 Marine ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> no it isnt.. (but the tiny dood in the background is) ive seen the doom 3 marine once..and his textures
Get off your high horse Sheena, I still remember generating a key for you when your copy of milkshape expired. Anyway I've never claimed I made the model. The only things I did where resizing, tweaking, a bit of reskinning and the jetpack.
<!--QuoteBegin--Psycho-Kinetic Hyper-Geek+Aug 30 2003, 03:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psycho-Kinetic Hyper-Geek @ Aug 30 2003, 03:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get off your high horse Sheena, I still remember generating a key for you when your copy of milkshape expired. Anyway I've never claimed I made the model. The only things I did where resizing, tweaking, a bit of reskinning and the jetpack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> and i think you could remeber that these keys wont work anyways when milkshape got expired once... so i havent used it since that...
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy
I personally don't care if its from a leaked version, add me to the "notify when released" list please. Damn whiners <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--FrickenMoron+Aug 30 2003, 03:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FrickenMoron @ Aug 30 2003, 03:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I personally don't care if its from a leaked version, add me to the "notify when released" list please. Damn whiners <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hey.. whats your problem? im not whining, ive just said "dont release it here,releasing here would be not very healthy" .. ****.
btw...i think the last doom3 model thread got locked
<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Aug 30 2003, 03:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Aug 30 2003, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and i think you could remeber that these keys wont work anyways when milkshape got expired once... so i havent used it since that...
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i dont see how releasing that doom 3 dude would be similar to releasing a software key. I dont think its a good thing that it was ripped, i would of just made a model that looked like the D3 guy and just credited it to being a doom 3 model, make sence? Though i dont see how it could be considered a warez (its not software, it just is from a different one, which wouldnt do anything by itself) I dont think it's a good idea to release it, with it being another game's model.
<!--QuoteBegin--BAshh+Aug 30 2003, 03:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh @ Aug 30 2003, 03:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Aug 30 2003, 03:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Aug 30 2003, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and i think you could remeber that these keys wont work anyways when milkshape got expired once... so i havent used it since that...
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i dont see how releasing that doom 3 dude would be similar to releasing a software key. I dont think its a good thing that it was ripped, i would of just made a model that looked like the D3 guy and just credited it to being a doom 3 model, make sence? Though i dont see how it could be considered a warez (its not software, it just is from a different one, which wouldnt do anything by itself) I dont think it's a good idea to release it, with it being another game's model. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the doom 3 marine is simply stolen from the id server..and ati was the thief( in some way).. you dont understand this one. huh?.. its like stealing prototype designs from a company server..
by law you are not alowed to have this data. is this so hard to understand? this are company secrets ( ok not a secret anymore)
<!--QuoteBegin--BAshh+Aug 30 2003, 03:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh @ Aug 30 2003, 03:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok so it is warez. Because its pirated (i just thought about that). But i still dont agree with it being the same as posting a software key. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> isnt posting a key for a software to enable it to a full working version pirating? thats stealing too.. you dont pay for the programm.. you pay for the key
anyway.. both cases would be not legal on THIS BOARD(<---- i dont care if that get posted anywhere..im pretty shure i would use it too)
i dont want hyper geek to get into troubles.. he have done so much wonderfull stuff for us
hmm... yes makes sence now. I really shouldnt post at 4 in the morning when im slow at thinking, and posting stuff before i think. Sorry about wasting time -_-
big deal if someone converts <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>1</span> model. As you can see most of us have pointed out that most of the Starcraft and Avp stuff here are illegal too.
<!--QuoteBegin--Psycho-Kinetic Hyper-Geek+Aug 29 2003, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psycho-Kinetic Hyper-Geek @ Aug 29 2003, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well I've pretty much finished the actual marine (still working on finalizing the jetpack) so I thought I might throw out a quick shot to everyone. I'll probably be releasing once the 3rd person reload anims are given out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's a suggestion, give the arm a lil more coverage. I would never want 2 run around with my arms bare.
Edit: Anyways, wuts ur problem ppl... u know u want it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Daza400+Aug 30 2003, 02:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daza400 @ Aug 30 2003, 02:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> theres a doom 3 pisotl(didnt release it), shotgun and ar out.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I never saw the shotgun's release topic. Where is it? I didn't see it in the official release topic either.
psst let this model go underground... they will never know. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> just kidding.
Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
edited August 2003
We and I have decided to make a new rule in order to be more specific about the possible consequences Nemesis Zero has just referred to. It is posted in Coil's Official Release Thread, but in order to further increase awareness, I'm making a new post to bump the most recent related thread (this one) and quoting the new rule below:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>edit for NEW RULE as of 08.30.2003</b>: Make sure the work is yours. Should be a no-brainer, but if a modeller/team says they do not want their work used for other stuff, you should respect that. For starters, <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=44876' target='_blank'>your dishonor will be made public</a>. Second, if I see someone take models from another mod team that has already stated it does not want its art assets used in other works, I will personally contact that mod team and ask them how you are to be dealt with. Example: If they say tempban, you will get tempbanned. As such, complaints about overly-harsh punishments are to be e-mailed or PMed to the original model's creator as if you were complaining to an Admin of this board. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because Psycho-Kinetic-Super-Geek only released teaser screenshots (and because he did so before the exact wording of this rule was posted), he will simply be given the warning that releasing his model <i>will</i> result in his being subject to the new style of punishment. I'm sorry to say we'd do this to even the most respected of artists and modellers here in our forums, but national copyright laws are laws.
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Leaked version ? what's that ment to be ?
id was very **** about ati for doing this.. i think they wont support ati any longer..,or doing any new games with them,, ( they worked very closely with ati on doom 3)
and this model is from this leaked version downloadet from somewhere..
Also isn't <a href='http://www.planetdoom.com/images/image.asp?screenshots/official/3l.jpg' target='_blank'>THIS</a> a Doom 3 Marine ?
but they are not ripped from an unfinished product that is not even supposed to exist..
avp rips are tolerated because hey..you could buy avp2...and they got credited in readmes
its alowed to have these rips when u have buyed avp2.. nobody checks back if you have avp buyed.. but its possible that u have it...
you are not alowed to have a original doom 3 model on your computer anyway..theres no game out yet,no way you could have a legal version installed in any way..
Also isn't <a href='http://www.planetdoom.com/images/image.asp?screenshots/official/3l.jpg' target='_blank'>THIS</a> a Doom 3 Marine ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
no it isnt.. (but the tiny dood in the background is) ive seen the doom 3 marine once..and his textures
and i think you could remeber that these keys wont work anyways when milkshape got expired once... so i havent used it since that...
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy
hey.. whats your problem? im not whining, ive just said "dont release it here,releasing here would be not very healthy"
.. ****.
btw...i think the last doom3 model thread got locked
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i dont see how releasing that doom 3 dude would be similar to releasing a software key. I dont think its a good thing that it was ripped, i would of just made a model that looked like the D3 guy and just credited it to being a doom 3 model, make sence? Though i dont see how it could be considered a warez (its not software, it just is from a different one, which wouldnt do anything by itself) I dont think it's a good idea to release it, with it being another game's model.
releasing that doom 3 dood is like posting the milkshape key on the board... not very healthy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i dont see how releasing that doom 3 dude would be similar to releasing a software key. I dont think its a good thing that it was ripped, i would of just made a model that looked like the D3 guy and just credited it to being a doom 3 model, make sence? Though i dont see how it could be considered a warez (its not software, it just is from a different one, which wouldnt do anything by itself) I dont think it's a good idea to release it, with it being another game's model. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the doom 3 marine is simply stolen from the id server..and ati was the thief( in some way).. you dont understand this one. huh?..
its like stealing prototype designs from a company server..
by law you are not alowed to have this data. is this so hard to understand? this are company secrets ( ok not a secret anymore)
isnt posting a key for a software to enable it to a full working version pirating?
thats stealing too.. you dont pay for the programm.. you pay for the key
anyway.. both cases would be not legal on THIS BOARD(<---- i dont care if that get posted anywhere..im pretty shure i would use it too)
i dont want hyper geek to get into troubles.. he have done so much wonderfull stuff for us
Here's a suggestion, give the arm a lil more coverage. I would never want 2 run around with my arms bare.
Edit:
Anyways, wuts ur problem ppl... u know u want it.
I never saw the shotgun's release topic. Where is it? I didn't see it in the official release topic either.
psst let this model go underground... they will never know. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> just kidding.
and geek, plz make the mutalisk skin! pleeeeeeeeeease! <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>
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<b>edit for NEW RULE as of 08.30.2003</b>: Make sure the work is yours. Should be a no-brainer, but if a modeller/team says they do not want their work used for other stuff, you should respect that. For starters, <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=44876' target='_blank'>your dishonor will be made public</a>. Second, if I see someone take models from another mod team that has already stated it does not want its art assets used in other works, I will personally contact that mod team and ask them how you are to be dealt with. Example: If they say tempban, you will get tempbanned. As such, complaints about overly-harsh punishments are to be e-mailed or PMed to the original model's creator as if you were complaining to an Admin of this board.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because Psycho-Kinetic-Super-Geek only released teaser screenshots (and because he did so before the exact wording of this rule was posted), he will simply be given the warning that releasing his model <i>will</i> result in his being subject to the new style of punishment. I'm sorry to say we'd do this to even the most respected of artists and modellers here in our forums, but national copyright laws are laws.