Skulks In 1.04 Compared To 2.0

HuntyHunty Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Weaker or same?</div> I was under the assumption skulks in 1.04 are about the same in 2.0.You know 10 bullets in 1.04,11 in 2.0.

No cara of course.

But then someone said something that got me thinking.Skulks had 5 more hp and 10 more armor than in 1.04,supposedly,as i didnt really play aliens much.Now this would of course translate to more damage needed to kill a skulk in 2.0.

Is this true?
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  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    Yes, you need more bullets in 2.0 to kill a skulk, compared to the 1.04 tissue paper skulk.
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  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    Skulks take fewer bullets to die with level 3 cara in 2.0 tho.
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  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    I find that late game skulks are pretty useless in 2.0. Where-as they were still quite effective late game in 1.04.
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  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    The way that damage is applied in 2.0 is slightly different, to take into account issues with damage "rounding".

    So everyone is right. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    Level 0 LMG, Level 0 Carapace 1.04: 9 bullets
    Level 0 LMG, Level 3 Carapace 1.04: about 17
    Level 0 LMG, Level 0 Carapace 2.0: 11
    Level 0 LMG, Level 3 Carapace 2.0: 15
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    If MrPink is right, the new skulk survivability is only because of the slightly increased speed...!
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  • TempusTempus Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12540Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CaL_FiN+Aug 31 2003, 09:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CaL_FiN @ Aug 31 2003, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I find that late game skulks are pretty useless in 2.0. Where-as they were still quite effective late game in 1.04. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Truer words were never spoken. Unfortunately. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I dunno. Xenocide leap onto a bunch of marines huddled around the armory = winnar.
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  • elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
    1.04 Skulk = A mess on the wall.
    2.0 Skulk = A marine mess on the wall.
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    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Speaking from experience, the 2.0 skulk is much better than the 1.04 skulk <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    skulks are amazing to take out mines in a marine base (if they think mines wont do dmg to both sides >:D so ur onos and fades can get in and out of thier spawn safer. when im a skulk with mabye 98 res, b4 if i want to go onos ill scan thier base, find a mine wait for a marine to run past it, run into it as he runing pasty and, volia boohoomm by by rine and skulk
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  • Barneys_SoulBarneys_Soul Join Date: 2003-08-18 Member: 19896Members
    i thought 1.4 skuks wer stronger o_O 30 aromer in 1.4, 20 in 2.0
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  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    They changed the way armour worked for aliens so that a higher amount of armour was needed for the same effectiveness. Hence 75/20 only taking one more LMG round than the old 70/10 in 1.04

    Whewt 100th post.
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  • ZarparchiorZarparchior Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7929Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CaL_FiN+Aug 31 2003, 09:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CaL_FiN @ Aug 31 2003, 09:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I find that late game skulks are pretty useless in 2.0. Where-as they were still quite effective late game in 1.04. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I tend to agree with that... unless you have 3 hives and Xenocide. A well timed one can not only kill LA marines right off the bat, but also damage a good amount of structures as well - making them have to respawn and THEN weld a whole bunch of stuff. If you just get 2 skulks to xeno-siege at the end of the game, you'll win a hella lot faster. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    It wasn't just hitpoints that were changed. The LMG obstructs less of a marine's field of view, making it easier to aim. However, I believe skulk speed was increased slightly. In addition, the skulk's bite animation is faster (less view-obstructing), and marines can no longer bunnyhop to gain speed.
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  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    If I am not mistaken the bite and slash range for fade and skulks were also reduced making them less effective.
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