Cl_sidespeed 1000

sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
<div class="IPBDescription">need help</div> Is there a way to have cl_sidespeed 1000 permanetly on all the time? I usually have to type it in everytime i join a server. It used to be permanent when i used cs instead of half-life but now i uninstalled cs and am running ns with half-life now.
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  • MagiTekMagiTek Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5057Members
    Create a file called autoexec.cfg in your NS folder.

    Open it with notepad.

    Type "cl_sidespeed 1000", without the quotes, and save.

    Half-life will automatically run the file whenever a new game starts.
  • thrazzthrazz Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19464Members, Constellation
    Why do you want cl_sidespeed set to 1000?
  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
    Because someone bugged up 2.0 and accidently set side and back to like 400... meaning you're only going half as fast as you could be.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--thrazz+Aug 31 2003, 11:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (thrazz @ Aug 31 2003, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do you want cl_sidespeed set to 1000? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it makes u be able to strafe better
  • thrazzthrazz Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19464Members, Constellation
    damn cfg hax0rs <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    so cl_backspeed 1000 would also work?
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MagiTek+Aug 31 2003, 11:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MagiTek @ Aug 31 2003, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Create a file called autoexec.cfg in your NS folder.

    Open it with notepad.

    Type "cl_sidespeed 1000", without the quotes, and save.

    Half-life will automatically run the file whenever a new game starts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I tryed that and when i joined a game cl_sidespeed was still set at 400.

    I took a screenie to see if this is correct...
  • EzekielEzekiel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3006Members
    surely just changing the value in the config.cfg would be enough? unless its on the server...
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited August 2003
    Instead of higher cl_backspeed and cl_forwardspeed you can increase cl_sidespeed for faster stravewalking, both does the same in result.

    All that NS does is, setting it back all to 400 (really low value) at every mapchange/join to avoid some exploits.
    With cl_sidespeed you can stravewalk 40% faster as skulk on straight pahts for example, wooha, lame and rarely usefull.
    "look, its srtravewalking faster to me" , "look, I could kill it easier, running strtaight at me".
    If you love TFC and thing stravejumping is skill enjoy: alias "skill" "cl_sidespeed 1000" , dont miss the irony.
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    It doesnt make you go faster, and no, cl_backspeed wouldn't work. cl_sidespeed allows you to change your forward + side speed when holding them both down at the same time. A lower side speed will be harder for you to circle strafe a skulk, while a higher allows you to easier.
  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--sk84zer0+Aug 31 2003, 05:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sk84zer0 @ Aug 31 2003, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I took a screenie to see if this is correct... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try naming your file <b>'autoexec.cfg'</b> and not <b>'autoexec.cfg.txt'</b> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Your file extensions are hidden for known file types, so it is not showing that it is actually a text file. When you save it, using Notepad, make sure you set <b>'Save as type'</b> to <b>'All files'</b>, and then put in <b>'autoexec.cfg'</b>.

    Alternatively, you could goto the <b>Tools>Folder Options</b> in Windows Explorer, and goto the <b>'View'</b> tab. Then, untick <b>'Hide extensions for known file types'</b> and click ok. You should now see that it is indeed called <b>'autoexec.cfg.txt'</b>, and now you can re-name it easily by seleting the file and clicking F2.

    And Ollj, what are you talking about?
  • rabbitzrabbitz Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19328Members
    i KNEW there was a reason all other skulks were eating marines, while i was always being torn apart with gunfire, even though i was doing (almost) exactly what they were doin
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    No, rabitz, your just not good.

    I've never changed my speeds, and I'm really good. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • statusqstatusq Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12142Members
    Quaunaut: me too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • snozzlesnozzle Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15788Members
    you dont have to make an autoexec.cfg

    A- open up "config.cfg" and find cl_sidespeed (either thru find or looking) and change to 1000 - and then save.

    B- while in game type cl_sidespeed 1000 , then type /writecfg

    c- bind a key to cl_sidespeed 1000
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--snozzle+Aug 31 2003, 01:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snozzle @ Aug 31 2003, 01:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you dont have to make an autoexec.cfg

    A- open up "config.cfg" and find cl_sidespeed (either thru find or looking) and change to 1000 - and then save.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I went into config.cfg, and i found no cl_sidespeed in it.
  • xeNixxxeNixx Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19252Members
    Well what is it? I thought I heard someone say it was considered cheating... don't **** with the game parameters...?

    If its a bug, excellent, I have always wondered why it was harder to strafe in 2.0.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    No its not a bug, just a setting on ur strafe.
  • thrazzthrazz Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19464Members, Constellation
    Maybe WWCL will start soon to be useful on NS servers...
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
  • thrazzthrazz Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19464Members, Constellation
    It's a cvar enforcer.
  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--sk84zer0+Aug 31 2003, 09:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sk84zer0 @ Aug 31 2003, 09:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No its not a bug, just a setting on ur strafe. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually it is a bug.
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    you basically want to have

    cl_forwardspeed xxxx
    cl_backspeed xxxx
    cl_sidespeed xxxx

    equal to the same number if you want the extra strafing.

    You can just edit your config.cfg file and then using windows, right click on the file in explorer, Goto Properties, and under Attributes set it to "Read Only" so that Half-Life & NS don't keep changing it back to 400.

    Be warned though.. It messes up your walking speeds and you can't walk anymore when you do this. Personally, I'd rather sacrifice the walking than the strafing.
  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--cri.tical+Aug 31 2003, 10:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Aug 31 2003, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Be warned though.. It messes up your walking speeds and you can't walk anymore when you do this. Personally, I'd rather sacrifice the walking than the strafing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think that if you change cl_forwardspeed and cl_backspeeds to 400 (to match default cl_sidespeed) then it messes up your walking.

    However, if you change cl_sidespeed to 1000 (to match default cl_forwards and back speeds) then it does not mess up your walking.
  • eggmaceggmac Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14246Members
    You may have wondered why you walk extremely slowly. Well it's because cl_forwardspeed is 400 by default as well, it should be 1000. That would be the correct walking speed. Setting it to extremely high values won't work, then walking will be the same as normal running. Remember to adjust the cl_sidespeed to the same value as well then.
    Just put cl_sidespeed 1000 in your config, and same with cl_forwardspeed
  • romanoromano Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4296Members
    <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>THE REASON YOU SHOULD SET cl_forwardspeed, cl_backspeed, and cl_sidespeed = 1000 IS:</span></b>

    During playtesting, Flayra changed the way the game handles walking (+speed). He changed it so that both marines and aliens can silently walk. From what I know about Half-Life coding, basically you set a maximum value of client speed which will be silent. (ie: if (client_forwardspeed < 300) silent_walk) or something. In doing so, from my observations, he changed the following:
    <ul>
    <li>set cl_forwardspeed to 1000, although the MAXSPEED of the client is controlled by the server
    <li>set the WALKING SPEED of a client (when +speed is held) to a FRACTION of cl_forwardspeed
    <li>left the other variables (cl_sidespeed and cl_backspeed) at 400, not knowing that they affect strafing adversly
    </ul>

    You can EASILY test that your walking speed is a FRACTION (somewhere around 1/5th I think), of your cl_forwardspeed.
    Do the following:
    <ul>
    <li>set your cl_forwardspeed to 400 (the old value), then hold +speed and walk forward (you will walk extremely slow.. from my guess, around 80 "speed")
    <li>set your cl_forwardspeed to 1000 (the new value), then hold +speed and walk forward (you will walk the now normal walk speed, around 200 "speed")
    <li>set your cl_forwardspeed to something large, say 5000.. here, notice your running speed is EXACTLY the same as your walking speed... +speed does nothing (since the max speed is controlled by the server, and 1/5 of 5000 is still greater than the server's maxspeed)
    </ul>

    Setting your cl_backspeed and cl_sidespeed to 1000 simply corrects a small config issue which Flayra missed, and which I knew about during playtesting, but didn't have the time to get it across to him, and it really wasn't a pressing issue.

    Having different settings for cl_fowardspeed, cl_backspeed, and cl_sidespeed WILL make you're strafing very, very poor. I urge everyone to get over the "configing" paranoia, and realize that this was an oversight and if you want to play the game to its fullest, you'll make the change.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    Look I do a lot of config editing and I am normally always on the side of the config'ers but this time I have to say that this is an exploit, this is giving u an advantage that others don't have because they don't know about the config and therefore cant cahnge it, they don't understand it, and are therefore afraid of things like this. While these exploits are very very very rare its those who use them give config editing(ors) a bad name.

    2.0 should be played as it is, if Flayra wants to change it he will in the next version he will (this has already been discussed and he posted about it personally). Making strafing easier means you are exploiting, it makes it easier for you to play the game, and makes u appear to be a better player, which I think is unfair.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    But silent sneaking and walking around cloaked is soo much fun.
  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    yep i agree, romano = teh win
  • NovisNovis Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19193Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Romano wins.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why ? Because he uses a bigger font to announce his far-etched proof of how "Flayra just forgot to make strafing faster" ?

    Of course, nobody "cheats" or uses exploits - but I'm always surprised with what some people come up to convince everyone that things like cvar manipulation to alter intended game behaviour to their advantage is a "part of skill".

    This reminds me of one of the early TFC versions, where you could actually become faster by increasing your cl_forwardspeed. The difference is: back then everyone agreed that it was a cheat (or an exploit, used for the purpose of cheating).
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