Cd Case

RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
edited August 2003 in Artwork Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">CD Case for Natural-Selection</div> <span style='color:orange'>[edit]--I've added the DVD-case--[/edit]
[edit1]--If you want a printable version, just drop me a line. I don't want to annoy my host by uploading images that big...--[/edit1]</span>

Well, it's been a long time since I've posted any new artwork here...

Some of you may remember my first attempts at creating a box and a CD case for Natural-Selection, back in the days when Natural-Selection wasn't released yet.
Almost exactly a month has passed since Natural-Selection 2.0 has been released, and I think this is a good date to celebrate this version with its own little package.
Unfortunately, I'm not a busy man, but a lazy one, so I'm not done with the box yet. That's the reason why you'll only see the CD case for now. I hope to find some more time next week to do the box.
Due to the fact that PhotoShop likes to "lag" on my computer when I work in high resolutions (300dpi), I'm not sure if I'll be patient enough to wait for every little change I may make...

Enough talking, here's the CD-Case. To enjoy it fully, you need to click on the link to the high-res version (2730x1200px). It's still not the original resolution, but should be enough...

<img src='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_cd_lowres.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<b><a href='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_cd_hires.jpg' target='_blank'>Click here for HiRes Version</a></b>

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<img src='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_dvd_lowres.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<b><a href='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_dvd_hires.jpg' target='_blank'>Click here for HiRes Version</a></b>
As always, comments and critics are welcome!
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  • chubbystevechubbysteve Join Date: 2002-10-14 Member: 1496Members, Constellation
    Very good, very clean nicely executed and professional. Boy you have a career in design so think about that as it says 'visit >url< and get me a job in the gaming industry <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->' Well I think you should consider design as well there mate.

    Uh, I like the alien/marine divide going on there, definitely done that well.
    Finally... uh I suppose the spine could be toned down. The text could be as it is in the logo;
    natural
    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>selection</span>

    You know like that, and that means lots of black space around it, which always looks nice on the spine of CD's.

    Also have you considered the DVD case stlye thing. Thats certainly more popular in the UK than ol' fashioned CD cases.
  • EplekongenEplekongen Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8915Members
    Looks great, DVD casings are indeed more populare. You did the TSA style frame really nice, looks real authentic.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    That's awesome. That'd look nice on top of my monitor!
  • killer_oliekiller_olie Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11209Members
    Wow, very well done.
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    O_O Nice. Just nice. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThoraXThoraX Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17519Members
    edited August 2003
    its purdy. *gives ramses gorge-shaped cookies* they may, or may not be made out of real gorges <img src='http://www.gopederick.com/forums/images/smiles/shifty.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    It looks great!
    I don't like the entire "in outer space" part.. sounds kinda cheezy to me..
    and ThoraX, you still own me marine shaped cookies with red blood sprinkles.. <img src='http://www.gopederick.com/forums/images/smiles/shifty.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well, Flayra has run out of ideas to not make NS go retail. YOUR TRAPPED, FLAYRA!!!
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    Eye-candy for everyone. Man that is just awesome!!! I wonder what other versions of the same idea you could do?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ANeM+Aug 30 2003, 07:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Aug 30 2003, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like the entire "in outer space" part.. sounds kinda cheezy to me.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol Yeah, I just realized that.
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    omg well nice ^_^ can u adapt/modify that for a dvd case?
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited August 2003
    I like it

    but it should be an E rating not M :/

    EDIT : I HIGLY suggest you look at the hi-res version....
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    very, very nice

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To understand this nick name, you need tu onderstand the concept of irony<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    pwned
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    WOWZORZ!!1oneoen
    Thats some nice shiz.
  • RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
    <i>sorry, quoting wouldn't work for me...</i>

    <b>chubbysteve</b><i> Finally... uh I suppose the spine could be toned down. The text could be as it is in the logo;
    natural
    selection
    You know like that, and that means lots of black space around it, which always looks nice on the spine of CD's.
    Also have you considered the DVD case stlye thing. Thats certainly more popular in the UK than ol' fashioned CD cases.</i>

    I'll try to resize the Natural-Selection logo on the spines, but I fear that it'll be too small that way.
    And yes, I've considered the "DVD case style thing". I just started with the smalles possible package, trying to make my way up to the full collectors edition box <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <b>Eplekongen</b><i> Looks great, DVD casings are indeed more populare. You did the TSA style frame really nice, looks real authentic.</i>

    As far as I know, DVD casings aren't more popular. The big game-publisher just switched to the DVD casings because they're not as expensive as full boxes, so the publisher gave us no choice.
    Anyway, most of the productiontime went into the TSA border, so it's good to hear that it looks authentic...

    <b>ANeM</b><i>I don't like the entire "in outer space" part.. sounds kinda cheezy to me..</i>
    Good to hear that, because that's exactly what I think... I've tried dozens of different phrases.
    At first I wanted to use the phrase "It's time to evolve!" but it didn't looked too good. It needs to be some description of the game, but it's hard to place the words "Real Time Strategy", "First Person Shooter", "Science Fiction", "Computer Game" into a short, smart and rememberable sentence when you speak english only in school <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <b>Quaunaut</b><i> Well, Flayra has run out of ideas to not make NS go retail. YOUR TRAPPED, FLAYRA!!! </i>

    The very day Flayra began to work on the design document for NS, his fate was sealed. There is no way Natural-Selection won't make it into the shelves in my opinion... Flayra never had a chance to avoid this (and he never really wanted, I believe)!

    <b>kida</b><i> I wonder what other versions of the same idea you could do?</i>

    I think I don't really understand this question... I want to create at least a DVD case and a regular box in the same style, if that is what you wanted to know...

    <b>RaVe</b><i> ...but it should be an E rating, not M :/</i>

    Flayra first aimed at a T (Teen) rating I belive. He always wanted to appeal to the broadest possible audience. That's the reason why he doesn't want dead corpses and blood all around in NS maps.
    But Natural Selection has changed a bit, and I believe that as it is now it would be rated M (Mature). In Germany (very strict laws regarding this topic) it would be 16+, and that's what most current games are.
    Well, I'm not very good informed about the US rating system,so I may be wrong...
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    - looks great
    - ditch the "in outer space" part
    - Can we get printable versions for cd/dvd covers ? puwweeez? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    I say just get rid of the entire action game in outerspace part on the front. Its the information age. Lets face it, in this day and age, if you don't at least know what type of game it is before you buy it, then you might want to not buy it at all. Just leave that little blue bar blank. Please.
    Only bargin basement games declare what they are. NS is too good to be a bargin basement game.
  • Chopper_DaveChopper_Dave Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20362Members
    Very nice! I know I'd stop and at least look at the case if I saw it in a store. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
    Finally, the DVD-case is finished, it looks best in a high resolution, so don't judge it on the "thumbnail", even if the thumnail is 800x565px...

    <img src='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_dvd_lowres.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <a href='http://www.joshbeeler.com/ramses/images/boxart/box_ns3_dvd_hires.jpg' target='_blank'><b>Click here for HiRes version</b></a>


    <b>ThinG</b>
    <i>- ditch the "in outer space" part
    - Can we get printable versions for cd/dvd covers? puwweez? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--></i>

    As mentioned above, this was also more a "placeholder" than anything else... I'm currently thinking about making the CD a "Soundtrack-CD" for the collectors edition.
    I don't know what "puwweez" means, but you can get printer-friendly versions, just drop me a line (either e-mail or pm).

    <b>ANeM</b>
    <i>I say just get rid of the entire action game in outerspace part on the front. Its the information age. Lets face it, in this day and age, if you don't at least know what type of game it is before you buy it, then you might want to not buy it at all. Just leave that little blue bar blank. Please.
    Only bargin basement games declare what they are. NS is too good to be a bargin basement game.</i>

    Well, see above...
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    bah plz readd the eye it looks too plain without it.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Umm... after reading a bit of that text it's pretty bad, it has nothing to do with advertising the game, change that so it looks professional. Other than that I want a printable version.
  • RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Aug 31 2003, 10:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Aug 31 2003, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Umm... after reading a bit of that text it's pretty bad, it has nothing to do with advertising the game, change that so it looks professional. Other than that I want a printable version.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Have you ever thought about the meaning of the word "placeholder"?




    <i>Translation into non-sarcastic english:</i>
    The text on the DVD and CD case is <i>meant</i> to be completly nonsense, the fact that I'm a german student makes it hard for me to write good promotion-textes in a foreign language, so I didn't even try.
    Feel free to post suggestions for the "real" text.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Oh, that's cool then. Ask someone to write some text for you.
  • chubbystevechubbysteve Join Date: 2002-10-14 Member: 1496Members, Constellation
    The DVD cover is barely up to the quality of the CD one. The front on fade wrecks it for me, but really it's the amount of wasted space. A simple restructuring (of the CD front) for the DVD proportions would have been better.
    also as a side note, that is an AWFUL amount of placeholder text, have you considered how long people will look at that stuff in a shop?
  • antifreezeantifreeze The guy with the goods&#33; Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16232Members, Constellation
    Very Very Very Nice.
    *Runs to buy a DVD case*
  • RamsesRamses Join Date: 2002-05-21 Member: 642Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--"chubbysteve"+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ("chubbysteve")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...The DVD cover is barely up to the quality of the CD one. The front on fade wrecks it for me, but really it's the amount of wasted space. A simple restructuring (of the CD front) for the DVD proportions would have been better.
    also as a side note, that is an AWFUL amount of placeholder text, have you considered how long people will look at that stuff in a shop?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well, if I would resize the eye, it would look too blurry. May be you won't see it immediatly, but as soon as you would print it, it would be obvious.
    Another problem is are the dimensions. I can't place the eye like I did on th CD, there would still be "too" much space at the bottom.

    Since I'm planning on doing another "Collectors Edition", I thought some diversity is needed. The CD is intended to be for the Soundtrack, the DVD for the actual game, and another big box for all together (and a huge manual of course)...

    Regarding the placeholder text, you're right, there's too much text. After looking at it again, I believe the main problem is that the text is way too small. Thus, there's more text than you would ever read.

    Also I think that a good promotion-text shouldn't be just paragraph after paragraph (like it's now), there should be some sort of feature-list too, for example.

    ====

    Well, I'm happy about every text-idea since I'm not that good at writing ads. Natural-Selection deserves something professional.
    I thought that it could be divided into three parts:

    In the two textboxes to the left (I'll try to join them together) the reader should get some basic information about the game, including catchwords like "multiplayer", "science-fiction", "human vs. alien", "one of the first RTS-FPS hybrid", "huge, spaceships(maps)", "teamwork" and so on.

    In the top right textbox, there could be some form of "feature-list" for the Kharaa/Alien (it's perhaps better to call the Kharaa "Aliens", so everyone knows what's meant), describing what's so special to them, especially their whole "Evolution" idea and their more deathmatch-style gameplay.
    "Free to choose", "5 Different Classes/Evolutions", "Hivemind", "more than 20 possible Upgrades(combinations)" are some ideas that came to my mind.

    In the bottom right textbox, the Frontiersmen/Marine part should be located. Again, a short feature-list would do best I believe, with keywords like "Teamwork", "CommanderMode", "Various Weapons & Upgrades", "High-Tech Equipment (JP, HA)", "Building a base" and more.

    I know, some day I will be able to buy Natural-Selection, it won't be my package, but it will happen... (and I DON'T want a discussion about wether going retail is good or bad)
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Holy I'll just buy a couple of these just because I can't pay Constellation and these just look plain badass.
  • HarleyQuinnHarleyQuinn Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15255Members
    i have an urge to print the dvd cover off, burn a cd with natural selection on, and then put it all together.


    personally would look perfect on my cd rack.

    and great job ramses.
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    This is indeed very nice. *thumbs up* <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • oblivion_is_at_handoblivion_is_at_hand Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4250Members
    If NS goes retai, that is the box I would like to see it in.
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