A New Kind Of Screenshot

coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited September 2003 in Mapping Forum
Many thanks to the boys in Off-Topic for starting <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=45860&st=0' target='_blank'>this thread</a>, which resulted in the following "screenshots."

To do screenshots like this yourself:
1) get in position
2) type "cam_idealyaw 3" in your console
3) take a screenshot
4) type "cam_idealyaw -3" in your console
5) take another screenshot

<i>Note: I'm actually not sure if this is the correct command for this. /: Going to have to look into it. You can get the same effect by focusing on something, taking a screenshot, sidestepping (VERY small sidestep), re-focusing on the same point, and taking a second screenshot.</i>

Open the two in Photoshop or another program, correct the gamma, reduce them to 320x240 (a nice small size to avoid eyestrain), and align them next to each other. If the image seems to pop out instead of in, flip-flop the images and try again. A caveat, though - this effect does *not* do well with motion - e.g water, animated models, or particle effects. You can see why in the pic of Refinery (the sparks coming from the furnace).

To see these in 3D, cross your eyes till the images overlap in the middle. Focus for a bit, and it'll pop into 3D.

And now, the shots... first, three of Bast.

<img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/bast1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


<img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/bast2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


<img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/bast3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Here are three from Hera.

    <img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/hera1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


    <img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/hera2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


    <img src='http://www.princeton.edu/~danj/ns/hera3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • statusqstatusq Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12142Members
    I am just getting headache trying to cross my eyes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    *squints*
    Maybe I have sensitive eyes or SOMETHING.
    /me Cannot keep eyes open on a computer screen long enough for images to become 3D.
    Its none the less cool.
    I think I saw one.
    ---
    Update:
    /Me turns lights on and tries it.
    Okay this is awsome it works <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • The_Real_QuasarThe_Real_Quasar Has the I.Q. of 12,000 P.E. Teachers Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9998Members
    My eyes suck. It always gets really blurry by the time it gets to the position it should be in...
    Maybe I need some <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited September 2003
    If you're having trouble, try the ones in the linked Off-Topic thread. Models are a little easier to get than screenshots, because it's easier to line up your eyes properly. Once you get the trick, it's absolute cake, but it takes your brain a little while to realize that you're actually trying to *focus* on something.

    Anyway, my main point in doing this is that "screenshots" look freakin awesome in 3D. (:
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    /me bashes his eye defect.

    Problem is that my left eye tends to see everything with a tilt of 35°, so my brain got quite proficient at blocking those little errors out. I can not get this to work -_-
  • uffouffo Join Date: 2003-05-03 Member: 16026Members
    nubs, i'm seeing them just perfect <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    I can't do it :\

    Argh, I can't cross my eyes and focus on the image at the same time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    I can do it. doesnt look THAT good because its all too dark.
    Try values larger than -3 +3.
    Can a script make 2 pictures close enough to catch animation.
    And if I want, I play it with 3d glasses, but my monitor is not that good in big brightness contrasts in 3d.
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    thats brilliant lol. I cross my eyes and in a moment the image is perfectly focused in the middle. They aren't THAT 3d though are they?
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I can sort of do it. I guess. Not really. My eyes hurt now.
  • quazilinquazilin Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9880Members, Contributor, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I tried the model screenshots they were much easier to get 3d. The fade shot is awesome =)
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    Don't force your eyes to cross over. Just make them think they are looking wrong. To do this close your right eye and move your left hand in front of your left eye (from the left side) until the left image becomes invisible. Now do the same thing on the other side. Open both eyes and you'll get a feeling of squinting though you aren't. After 30 seconds or so your eyes will give in and start to squint to get these damn two pictures over each other. hehe.
    Nice pics btw, but what about making them uber 3D? Like they were a little model version of the real map and you are looking at them from real close? This would be even more amazing :]
  • Raptor6Raptor6 Join Date: 2002-09-15 Member: 1319Members
    edited September 2003
    argh, doesn't work for me oO *jumps*
    *hurt*

    /edit
    the pictures overlap a little bit in the middle, but thats all, i have a nice headache, thank you coil <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • chubbystevechubbysteve Join Date: 2002-10-14 Member: 1496Members, Constellation
    This is a really cool idea, and works quite well, but it could offer a serious hazard if used a lot. Crossing your eyes while looking at a computer screen really close doesn't sound too healthy to me.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    the pictures overlap in the middle, but that seems to create a massive blob....then when i try to focus it goes back to normal <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'm usually good with these kind of things
  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    More! The people demands more!
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BeRzErKeR+Sep 6 2003, 10:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BeRzErKeR @ Sep 6 2003, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> More! The people demands more! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed

    Also try to make slightly larger version of the landing pad,so I can look at it in fake 3-d all day ^^

    And now.....a tutorial for those who can't cross their eyes....

    HOT TO : Cross your eyes in a few simple steps

    Tools needed :
    - Your eyes,duh
    - Finger,but a pencil,pen or any thin object will suffice
    - Painkiller (yes it will hurt your eyes)

    1. Put your finger or whatever you're going to use directly in front of your face, about 20cm away.Make sure it is parallel to your nose (Unless by some freak incident,your nose bends towards the side <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
    2. Focus on it with your eyes.
    3. Slowly move towards your eyes until your eyes start to feel painful,in which case you must STOP!
    4. If you experience sharp pain, take painkillers,and if that doesn't work,call someone, you could've stretched an eye muscle too much :\
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    you need to set the viewing angle a LOT higher in those. Atm they just look like flat screenshots a few inches away from the screen.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I think on long-angle screenshots (as most of those were), it needs to be a wider angle. You'll notice that on the close shot of the hallway in Bast (the one with the ladder), though, that the effect is much more pronounced.
  • Adam0oAdam0o Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20075Members, Constellation
    haha wow
    that amazing!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    post some more, i cant be bothered doing it myself
  • ParasiteParasite Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 431Members
    If you have prescription eyeglasses, dont even bother.
  • boobs!boobs! Old-School Competitor Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8504Members
    rofl hahaha i love it coil. best thing is i made me friend who has a lazy eye (his eyes look at things totally different when hes looking at you (his eyes) hes actually looking left and right of you) it was great fun making fun of him while he held his head trying to do it. ahhahahaa
  • boobs!boobs! Old-School Competitor Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8504Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Parasite+Sep 6 2003, 11:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Parasite @ Sep 6 2003, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have prescription eyeglasses, dont even bother. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh and i do but it worked just fine for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • venomusvenomus Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8951Members
    I didn't have much success with the map screenshots, but then I checked out the models in coil's link and they are awesome! MAybe the map screens need more contrast, or something to separate them from each other.

    However after doing it I found my eyes couldn't focus for a minute or so, so I don't think I'll be trying it again...
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    The moment my eyes cross, the moment all clarity is lost.
    No renegade pics for me, then.
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    My eyes are watering in pain <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> I can do these tricks in books and paper but not on the PC <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> They just look like 2 pictures
  • venomusvenomus Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8951Members
    Seriously, check out the 3d models in the off-topic thread (link in first post of this thread), especially if you are having trouble with the map pics. The use the staring-at-finger trick. You cannot fail!
  • CatCopCatCop Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20296Members, Constellation
    /me puts on 3D glasses
    OMG!
    THIS WORKS GREAT WITH 3D GLASSES!
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2003
    Hey Coil those stereo images are <i>flat</i> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . Using the noclip mode and simply moving sideways a good 30 units or so inbetween shots with the strife will probably work better.

    If you try to view those images "in 3-d" all you get is a flat plane sticking out of the monitor covered with a screenshot <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    Here is an overlay of the bast screenshot, right screen and left screen with 50% transluceny on the overlayed, you will see that they are either identical or at least differ extremly little. So odd no one has noticed <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    Also the right image was slightly brighter than the left in this case, did you forget to merge the layers in photoshop before toying with the color balance/levels?

    edit: or maybe people are just too polite to say anything? Not me though I r teh baztard, I am the one who takes that last liquorice allsort that everybody else is to polite to eat...
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