Commander's Nigtmare

SoulSpawn · September 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Come and read</div> I was commanding on veil. im slightly new to commanding but ive alwasy been good with strat games and ive commanded some good wins in 1.04(not jp/hmg rush) anyway, we had takent he rote from marine start to pipeline on ns_veil. taken the rt and had electrifed 2 of them 1 at 12 and 1 near marine start(sorry forgot name) and i had a tf and 2-3 sentry nothing major i like the rt rush as marine it can work. i had though i might attack cargo hive. so i click slected all and sent them all to cargo. apart from a few who wouldnt move. i place a TF and then pop i jump out of command chair im like "WTH??" and i see me beening eaten by 5 skulk with no base. what had happened is no one was in base and i heard not a single warning. i asked people y i didnt and they said it was taken out, i could kill the NS team for that 1 it was the commander best freind hard to look over 6 other emarine 4 rt your base a hive and an attack all at once. So 1. have they taken it out and 2. PLZ put it back in if they have i could of screamed when i saw my self pop out of command chiar( this was ns2.01d).

Lito · September 2003

um... i think thats why they put in Comm chair warnings such as:

"Marines under attack"
"Sentry Guns Firing"
"The Command Station is Under Attack"
"Our Base is Under Attack"

Remington · September 2003

This actually happend to me once, except it was an outpost and not main base, but still the warning sounds didn't play!

sk84zer0 · September 2003

Yea its weird, sometimes the warnings dont go off. But they do most of the time.

Zee · September 2003

I've had some serious problems with the warning sounds as commander as well. It's extremely frustrating when you are focused on securing a hive or putting up an outpost at the double res and suddenly you pop out of your comm chair, you are killed, and there is no ip. I don't know why the warning sounds are sometimes lame and don't work, but I really hope that they can somehow "fix" this problem.

BigMadSteve · September 2003

Sometimes the warning sound works <i>too</i> well, it's a great alien strat. Basically, if the rines have relocated just set up an oc next to the CC. "The command station is under attack" will keep bugging the comm almost endlessly.

SoulSpawn · September 2003

of course they work sometime but that example was only 1 it happened 3 times befor resulting in total desturction of main base or an important outpost like a hive lock down. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

taboofires · September 2003

The game doesn't check for things like that continously, so sometimes there's a delay between the start of an attack and the warning message.

MT and watching the map work nicely. Other than that, there isn't much to do about it.

Xzilen · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soul-Spawn @ Sep 6 2003, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I was commanding on veil. im slightly new to commanding but ive alwasy been good with strat games and ive commanded some good wins in 1.04(not jp/hmg rush) anyway, we had takent he rote from marine start to pipeline on ns_veil. taken the rt and had electrifed 2 of them 1 at 12 and 1 near marine start(sorry forgot name) and i had a tf and 2-3 sentry nothing major i like the rt rush as marine it can work. i had though i might attack cargo hive. so i click slected all and sent them all to cargo. apart from a few who wouldnt move. i place a TF and then pop i jump out of command chair im like "WTH??" and i see me beening eaten by 5 skulk with no base. what had happened is no one was in base and i heard not a single warning. i asked people y i didnt and they said it was taken out, i could kill the NS team for that 1 it was the commander best freind hard to look over 6 other emarine 4 rt your base a hive and an attack all at once. So 1. have they taken it out and 2. PLZ put it back in if they have i could of screamed when i saw my self pop out of command chiar( this was ns2.01d).  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Someone please translate.

Taint · September 2003

Who needs the sounds when you got circles going around the area of disaster on your minimap? Those circles really starting **** you off after a while, and you just wanna EAT THEM and you look at it. Or is that with just upgrades? DOH! I forget : (

Stoneburg · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xzilen @ Sep 7 2003, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soul-Spawn @ Sep 6 2003, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I was commanding on veil. im slightly new to commanding but ive alwasy been good with strat games and ive commanded some good wins in 1.04(not jp/hmg rush) anyway, we had takent he rote from marine start to pipeline on ns_veil. taken the rt and had electrifed 2 of them 1 at 12 and 1 near marine start(sorry forgot name) and i had a tf and 2-3 sentry nothing major i like the rt rush as marine it can work. i had though i might attack cargo hive. so i click slected all and sent them all to cargo. apart from a few who wouldnt move. i place a TF and then pop i jump out of command chair im like "WTH??" and i see me beening eaten by 5 skulk with no base. what had happened is no one was in base and i heard not a single warning. i asked people y i didnt and they said it was taken out, i could kill the NS team for that 1 it was the commander best freind hard to look over 6 other emarine 4 rt your base a hive and an attack all at once. So 1. have they taken it out and 2. PLZ put it back in if they have i could of screamed when i saw my self pop out of command chiar( this was ns2.01d). </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Someone please translate.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
His base was eaten while his Marines were out but he got no warning (ie: "Your base is under attack").

Necrosis · September 2003

Call me a cynic but I find it hard to believe that the rine TEAM didn't notice they were getting seriously pwned.

If you can't hear the noises, generally you can rely on your team since they'll be screaming colourful phrases.

typical_skeleton · September 2003

necro, they were apparently all assaulting cargo at the time..

it may have been related to the relocation.

I dunno why anyone ever relocates on veil. for some reason, aliens don't like to attack marine start mid to late game. I've seen this a lot.

atleast 70% of the time I don't have to build more than the initial 4 turrets for base defense. if you move fast the aliens get caught up on things, i.e defending the two flanking hives or securing double res (which most people should know by now is a dumb place for anyone to be).

ElvenThief · September 2003

Flayra admitted a long time ago, I believe around 1.01, that he had made it so you didn't hear EVERY commander warning, giving the aliens the commander diversion tactic.
Bite an rt and comm chair at same time, and you may hear "Base is under attack" -> hit space bar, and it's at the rt, never catching the commchair.
Every wonder why after 1.00, you rarely got the proper "Soldier needs ammo" or "Soldier needs medpack" requests? I'm pretty sure this is why.

If you were preparing and assault and kept hearing "Soldier is under attack", that's probably why you never heard "Base is under attack".
Regardless, I've had the same stuff happen to me multiple times. My best thing to say is, be alert as a commander and just keep listening over your outposts and bases.

Necrosis · September 2003

Well what I mean is that when the scoreboard is lit up with lots of Dead teammates it usually implies crap's happening at base <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Mastodon · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Sep 7 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Call me a cynic but I find it hard to believe that the rine TEAM didn't notice they were getting seriously pwned.

If you can't hear the noises, generally you can rely on your team since they'll be screaming colourful phrases.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Your average batch of Rines wouldn't know an attack if it jumped up and bit 'em in the face.

This has happened to me on more than one occaission and the only thing more frustrating than having to say "It's gone" when your marines ask how many hives (or outposts) you control is having marines tell you about the attack <b>after</b> the fact...commanding is hard job, people.

Xzilen · September 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stoneburg @ Sep 7 2003, 08:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xzilen @ Sep 7 2003, 05:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soul-Spawn @ Sep 6 2003, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I was commanding on veil. im slightly new to commanding but ive alwasy been good with strat games and ive commanded some good wins in 1.04(not jp/hmg rush) anyway, we had takent he rote from marine start to pipeline on ns_veil. taken the rt and had electrifed 2 of them 1 at 12 and 1 near marine start(sorry forgot name) and i had a tf and 2-3 sentry nothing major i like the rt rush as marine it can work. i had though i might attack cargo hive. so i click slected all and sent them all to cargo. apart from a few who wouldnt move. i place a TF and then pop i jump out of command chair im like "WTH??" and i see me beening eaten by 5 skulk with no base. what had happened is no one was in base and i heard not a single warning. i asked people y i didnt and they said it was taken out, i could kill the NS team for that 1 it was the commander best freind hard to look over 6 other emarine 4 rt your base a hive and an attack all at once. So 1. have they taken it out and 2. PLZ put it back in if they have i could of screamed when i saw my self pop out of command chiar( this was ns2.01d). </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Someone please translate. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
His base was eaten while his Marines were out but he got no warning (ie: "Your base is under attack").  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Ah, thank you <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Spazmatic · September 2003

You need to keep your eyes open... Because simply reacting isn't good enough either. Generally, I try to keep an approximate idea of where most aliens are, whether it's from dying marines or scan sweeps (yes, I really like obs).

However, if you never glanced at your base or upgrades in the time it took them to wipe out your entire start with skulks... I think that's the commander's fault there.

Commander's Nigtmare

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