Bots?

JediPimp · August 2002

A special request of sorts I suppose...basically I have to leave my nice cushy home w/ DSL and move to a frozen wasteland for school for a year and was wondering:
1) PLEASE RELEASE BEFORE AUG. 31st! <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
2) Are there any bots planned for NS?

Moleculor · August 2002

No. There are not. Other than some -very- limited ones for the Tutorial... ones with very well scripted actions, and NO AI.

If someone out in t3h community wants to code some after release (or contact Flayra about coding them before hand... though that might not be possible), then that's where the bots will have to come from. Flayra isn't going to take the time to make them.

Jammer · August 2002

I'm pretty sure this issue has been addressed. Because of the nature of marines and aliens, and the style of play, you'd need some incredibly complex and resource hogging AI to pull off any sort of comparable BOT. 99% sure BOTS will never happen.

JediYoshi · August 2002

There must been some AI to make the overwatch mode, right?

Moleculor · August 2002

Sorta. There's a function or something that sends a TRUE value when a specified object comes into the LOS of someone. So the overwatch was basically, "If you see an alien, shoot it".

Really really basic.

JediYoshi · August 2002

I was also wondering, does it make a weapon reload automatically?

TheGunSlingerOmega · August 2002

I figure, for bots for marines, they could be specifically FPS And follow the commander's (The player's) orders IE:Build this here, Go here etc. And be programmed to shoot Aliens or visa versa. For the Aliens it wouldnt be as indepth as that. Wander till they find a marine to shoot... I dunno I'm not a programmer, took me three months to get my game engine working..and then another four to kink out the bugs. Ugh...

Anyways there is my input.

Longtooth · August 2002

Does this game have auto reload?

Sgt_X · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Longtooth @ Aug. 11 2002,17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Does this game have auto reload?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I swear, you take maybe two looks at a page and then you hit post. JediYoshi's not talking about NS in general, he's talking about overwatch mode which kicks in when you don't touch any buttons for a while and turns you into a sentry turret in effect. That being said, there is no "auto-reload" and I do not know if you reload while in overwatch.

Edit: Doh! Yet again coil you've pointed out my idiocy, this of coarse means my memory is messed and this is the first time you've corrected my idiocy. Which of coarse will be wrong.

coil · August 2002

Says who?

I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure you auto-reload when empty. I'll check to be certain next PT.

Daxx · August 2002

Seems to be a default weapon feature in any mod, you run empty of something, and it auto-reloads. Either that, or use a script that auto reloads no matter how much ammo you have left. (use that in TFC)

Gwahir · August 2002

FA has that disabled though.

Surge · August 2002

What if someone exploits the overwatch? Like, they watch a dark ceiling and sit real still, and when an alien tries to sneak up on it, the Marine starts firing into the darkness (that the player alone could <i>never</i> see through) and kills the alien. What if that happens?

Slycaster · August 2002

Overwatch can also be used for tactical defense you know, you have to be smart as an alien, like go level4 and umbra, etc.

Dan_Forever · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Surge @ Aug. 12 2002,17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What if someone exploits the overwatch? Like, they watch a dark ceiling and sit real still, and when an alien tries to sneak up on it, the Marine starts firing into the darkness (that the player alone could <i>never</i> see through) and kills the alien. What if that happens?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think overwatch turns on when you become afk, meaning you can't press any buttons.

Is overwatch activated by the menu or automaticly by inactivity? And is it disabled by any keypress or mouse movement?

If so, then people attempting to exploit overwatch are gonna get really bored and will have to be standing, meaning no crouching (or sitting, as you put it <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> )

Rico1 · August 2002

Im pretty sure it activates when you dont do something after a while. Meaning you dont move, dont crouch, press any keys on your keyboard or mouse.

Surge: I dont think that could really happen because A) A lvl 1 bite does 110 damage(STC maybe) per bite. B) Aliens have way more health that a marine C) Aliens are faster than a marine.

Its easier to take out a stationary target than a moving target, and when a marine goes into overwatch mode, all they do is aim and shoot, they cant move around or jump or anything like that.

I dont think that will be an issue.

Battousaix · August 2002

i dont think that a bob bite takes 110 dmg..... its far too much... anyways marines can make some upgrades on armor, also marines got a lot of ranged weapons.....

Eos · August 2002

Actually a Bob's bite does 110 dmg.

Longtooth · August 2002

It says in the FAQ that overwatch covers you while you type, so does that mean it auto activates whenever you press the chat key?

Unknown · August 2002

Overwatch has been disabled due to it being too accurate.

ThrillKill1 · August 2002

About the bots...

I'm fairly certain it can be done, although it will take more work then one might like. POD Bot for Counter-Strike is an amazing bot for one, as they APPEAR fairly intelligent and complete objectives. The purchase weapons and navigate the map and all sorts of nifty things. The catch? You have to create waypoints beforehand, or the bots will not function. That is why the appear so smart, because someone took the time to place these waypoints to tell what the bots to do when they reach a certain point.

I'm not sure if they can or cannot be programmed to take orders from the commander, but I'm fairly certain they can at least give you something to do on those days when your internet is down.

Just a thought.

Asraniel · August 2002

I think take commands from the commander would be one of the easyet things, because, go at location x,y,z is something that every bot can do. And if you see for how many maps there are waypoints for POD, then you know that there are enough crazy people out there with too much time to do that.

ThrillKill1 · August 2002

I know I would. Hehe. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

DexMachine · August 2002

Bots are a good idea

if hard to do

and just cos I want to know - Coil is that the coelcanth (or whatever) ancient fishy thing in your sig?

Diogenes_Dog · August 2002

Would it be possible to make a bot that basically just did whatever the commander told it to and fired at any alien in sight? Seems like it might be easier than making it behave intelligently on its own.

but I have no clue what I'm talking about here. Just tossing out an idea.

& of course this wouldn't help any if you wanted an alien bot. :/

-dio

MutantMFM · August 2002

I don't think there will be enough room in any server for bots. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

dragonsblade · August 2002

bots wuold be hard for aliens they have to many stratagys to implemt.

sharpsword6 · August 2002

Are they gonna have lan games?

im guessing not since there will be no bots but i still am wondering? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

dragonsblade · August 2002

lanisnt always played with bots you can play lan with people to

JediYoshi · August 2002

That's the point. Bots in anything is optional. No, Aliens would be alot eaiser than Marines cause they have more strategies to make.

One word of advice: Stop bringing back these old posts unless you have something that isn't more than one sentance, NOW!

Eos · August 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (JediYoshi @ Aug. 28 2002,07:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's the point. Bots in anything is optional. No, Aliens would be alot eaiser than Marines cause they have more strategies to make.

One word of advice: Stop bringing back these old posts unless you have something that isn't more than one sentance, NOW!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yes! Please stop bringing back dead threads!! <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

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